Re: [Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008
Been there! I helped negotiate a spot for four ham repeaters for an Atlanta-area club on a platform at 1400 feet on a broadcast tower. A true dream site - free rent, free AC power, no commercial tenants at the time, just an FM broadcast station, and permission to put two big NEMA rack cabinets on the platform. Downside - infrequent access. The club went with Icom for 440 and 1.2, and Maggiore for 2m and 220, using built-in controllers just the way they came. They wanted newer equipment with a warranty. What a nightmare. The Maggiore 220 machine's controller got stuck in transmit for months before they could get a tech up there, and the others had more subtle problems. A few years later, another chance for a nice site, downtown building rooftop, not as high, but again I was the only one there. No club entanglements. I used a converted GE Mastr II mobile with an S-com 5K, later upgraded to a 7K. It's played there with one PA repair in over 10 years in a sealed, non-ventilated outdoor cabinet, sitting in the Florida sun. (Which, by the way, has never set off the 120*F internal cabinet temp alarm.) The GE was a fraction of the cost, and has better parts availability today than a 10-year-old Icom repeater. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: wd8chl To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008 Paul Plack wrote: ...Your club elected a tech-challenged board, ...and they all actually believe that the made-for-ham repeater equipment is better then commercial grade Motorola or GE simply because it's newer.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008
On Dec 25, 2007, at 11:41 PM, wd8chl wrote: Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: I wish !!! I've got Verizon now (formerly the Great Telephone Experiment) Generally Trashy Electronics... Gosh, Telephones Exist? -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008
The Grinch emailed me direct to say say he has the following plans for you in 2008: [The Unofficial list] A simplex repeater parrot on your previously dead quiet input frequency. A new high-power co-channel repeater in the next county operating in carrier squelch on your frequency. Just to make sure you're paying attention he's got a whiz bang repeater controller speaking the time, id and IRLP info every 9 minutes.... and his receiver squelch is set way too loose. A Karaoke Mic used weekends in the local bar on your 224 Repeater input frequency. Lots of free previously-used LMR-400 Coax given away to the locals for all high powered repeater systems who can install it quick... Two or more old-timer operators on your repeater who love to talk about their medical problems in depth. Pav-Paws Radar for the rest of the Country or an EPLRS System for those who miss out on the nearby Pav-Paws fun. American Tower wakes up from their coma and starts doing detailed site audits. Bootleg High-power FRS Radios for the kids on your local GMRS repeater input. ... with ctcss encode of course. The co-located Broadcast Station increases power. ATT becomes your Phone Company. American Tower becomes the Owner Manager at your Repeater Site. Motorola buys into your radio company of choice... Narrow banding and D-Star to those with much spare time and money on their hands. IBOC Broadcast Radio for the masses... HD-TV actually displaces Analog TV from the air like they say it's going to happen. Hillary eyes a post at the FCC after her failed presidential run. Jingtong, Quansheng or Feidaxin start making low cost repeater equipment (with the same muffled tx-audio as supplied with their portable radios). MFJ starts manufacturing selling repeater equipment... Someone gives your group a large number of old prom and eprom programmed radios. You get routed through Chicago O'Hare when going to Dayton 2008. The computer in your vehicle has a nice harmonic on your radio frequency of choice. You move to another location only to find another birdie on the new frequency. And of course... one of the local drunk trouble-making ham has a tape recorder on your repeater input frequency and has figured out most of your repeater controller commands. Happy 2008 says (emails) the Grinch... cheers, :-)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008
...Your club elected a tech-challenged board, and they don't see any reason to pay more than the cost of the great new Casio nickel-coated-PVC duplexers! Merry Christmas! 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008 The Grinch emailed me direct to say say he has the following plans for you in 2008: [The Unofficial list] A simplex repeater parrot on your previously dead quiet input frequency. A new high-power co-channel repeater in the next county operating in carrier squelch on your frequency. Just to make sure you're paying attention he's got a whiz bang repeater controller speaking the time, id and IRLP info every 9 minutes. ... and his receiver squelch is set way too loose. A Karaoke Mic used weekends in the local bar on your 224 Repeater input frequency. Lots of free previously-used LMR-400 Coax given away to the locals for all high powered repeater systems who can install it quick... Two or more old-timer operators on your repeater who love to talk about their medical problems in depth. Pav-Paws Radar for the rest of the Country or an EPLRS System for those who miss out on the nearby Pav-Paws fun. American Tower wakes up from their coma and starts doing detailed site audits. Bootleg High-power FRS Radios for the kids on your local GMRS repeater input. ... with ctcss encode of course. The co-located Broadcast Station increases power. ATT becomes your Phone Company. American Tower becomes the Owner Manager at your Repeater Site. Motorola buys into your radio company of choice... Narrow banding and D-Star to those with much spare time and money on their hands. IBOC Broadcast Radio for the masses... HD-TV actually displaces Analog TV from the air like they say it's going to happen. Hillary eyes a post at the FCC after her failed presidential run. Jingtong, Quansheng or Feidaxin start making low cost repeater equipment (with the same muffled tx-audio as supplied with their portable radios). MFJ starts manufacturing selling repeater equipment... Someone gives your group a large number of old prom and eprom programmed radios. You get routed through Chicago O'Hare when going to Dayton 2008. The computer in your vehicle has a nice harmonic on your radio frequency of choice. You move to another location only to find another birdie on the new frequency. And of course... one of the local drunk trouble-making ham has a tape recorder on your repeater input frequency and has figured out most of your repeater controller commands. Happy 2008 says (emails) the Grinch... cheers, :-)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008
At 12:10 PM 12/25/07, you wrote: The Grinch emailed me direct to say say he has the following plans for you in 2008: [The Unofficial list] (big chomp cut out) The co-located Broadcast Station increases power. And the new engineer doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. ATT becomes your Phone Company. I wish !!! I've got Verizon now (formerly the Great Telephone Experiment) Someone gives your group a large number of old prom and eprom programmed radios. And they have left-hand thread TNC connectors and are +/- 15khz deviation... You get routed through Chicago O'Hare when going to Dayton 2008. ...during a baggage handlers strike... The computer in your vehicle has a nice harmonic on your radio frequency of choice. You move to another location only to find another birdie on the new frequency. ...and the vehicle electronics is even more sensitive than the old VW fastback fuel injections systems... (see note) And of course... one of the local drunk trouble-making ham has a tape recorder on your repeater input frequency and has figured out most of your repeater controller commands. ... and publishes them on a web site... Happy 2008 says (emails) the Grinch... cheers, :-) The old VW fuel injection systems were so sensitive that 30w on 6m in the adjacent lane would cause them to sputter and die... Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008
I like the idea of a local drunk trouble-making ham who has a tape recorder on your repeater input frequency and has figured out most of your repeater controller commands. And I thought, when I was a repeater trustee, that I had all of the troubles in the world . . . . . Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008 At 12:10 PM 12/25/07, you wrote: The Grinch emailed me direct to say say he has the following plans for you in 2008: [The Unofficial list] (big chomp cut out) The co-located Broadcast Station increases power. And the new engineer doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. ATT becomes your Phone Company. I wish !!! I've got Verizon now (formerly the Great Telephone Experiment) Someone gives your group a large number of old prom and eprom programmed radios. And they have left-hand thread TNC connectors and are +/- 15khz deviation... You get routed through Chicago O'Hare when going to Dayton 2008. ...during a baggage handlers strike... The computer in your vehicle has a nice harmonic on your radio frequency of choice. You move to another location only to find another birdie on the new frequency. ...and the vehicle electronics is even more sensitive than the old VW fastback fuel injections systems... (see note) And of course... one of the local drunk trouble-making ham has a tape recorder on your repeater input frequency and has figured out most of your repeater controller commands. ... and publishes them on a web site... Happy 2008 says (emails) the Grinch... cheers, :-) The old VW fuel injection systems were so sensitive that 30w on 6m in the adjacent lane would cause them to sputter and die... Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links !DSPAM:1016,47719fb972925209328925!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008
Paul Plack wrote: ...Your club elected a tech-challenged board, ...and they all actually believe that the made-for-ham repeater equipment is better then commercial grade Motorola or GE simply because it's newer.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Grinch words/list for repeater and radio folks going into 2008
Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: I wish !!! I've got Verizon now (formerly the Great Telephone Experiment) Generally Trashy Electronics...
