Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000

2008-12-08 Thread cruising7388
 
I've also found some documentation that I'll send along with the hardware.  
Am pretty busy with pre-XMAS running around so it will be a little while before 
 I can get this stuff to you.
 
Bruce
 
 
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That would be great.
 
Please let me know what I owe you for the shipping and the like.
 
Keith Foor
6758 Johnstown Utica Rd
Johnstown, Oh 43031



 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000

2008-12-02 Thread Keith Foor
That would be great.

Please let me know what I owe you for the shipping and the like.

Keith Foor
6758 Johnstown Utica Rd
Johnstown, Oh 43031

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications 
SCR-1000


  I no longer have any Spectrum documentation but I do have a collection of 
original boards for the SCR-1000 that I'll be glad to send you if you think you 
can make use of them in restoring it.

  Bruce
  K7IJ


  In a message dated 11/22/2008 9:13:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
I have an SCR-1000 that was being used as a local repeater and then
was replaced. I am looking for information on the control circuits,
how to program the IDer, a service and or users manual and any other
info I can find. The unit is VHF (not sure if that matters).

There have been a number of modifications done to this unit that need
to be removed and the unit put back to it's out of box configuration
if possible.

I thank you for any help you may be able to provide.

Keith
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000

2008-11-27 Thread Keith Foor
After reviewing the transmitter schematic (yeah, I found it) it seems that the 
audio feeds rather directly into the trans with little filtering.  It might 
make a good packet radio at 9600 even.
Anyway, my guess is that this is due to the PL encode coming in that line and 
it needing to pass it on correctly, of course the ability of it creating spurs 
with this design is also fairly evident.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Plack 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications 
SCR-1000


  These repeaters got a bad reputation in part because of hams who tuned them 
be peaking rather than using the procedure in the manual. The PA was fairly 
efficient, but not unconditionally stable, and could produce spurs if not 
properly tuned.

  One other issue was the combination of Spectrum repeater and ACC controller, 
which was once a very common setup. One of the busier systems in Atlanta in the 
80's used this combo, and despite proper tuning, it was incredible dirty, with 
spurs at regular frequency intervals. Many hairs were torn out until it was 
discovered that the ACC's digital clocking noise passed down the PTT line was 
actually modulating the exciter.

  From my point of view, that's a boo/hiss on both ACC and Spectrum.

  73,
  Paul, AE4KR

  - Original Message - 
From: Mike Reed 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications 
SCR-1000


I have one of those critters also, but no book. Spectrum wants a small 
fortune for it. As for the ID unit, it is a burned chip that is not really 
available. I would suggest an after market one.
That is what I know so far...
73
Mike - N7ZEF

- Original Message - 
From: Keith Foor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:02 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000

I have an SCR-1000 that was being used as a local repeater and then
was replaced. I am looking for information on the control circuits,
how to program the IDer, a service and or users manual and any other
info I can find. The unit is VHF (not sure if that matters).

There have been a number of modifications done to this unit that need
to be removed and the unit put back to it's out of box configuration
if possible.

I thank you for any help you may be able to provide.

Keith
KB8VUL



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000

2008-11-23 Thread cruising7388
 
I no longer have any Spectrum documentation but I do have a collection of  
original boards for the SCR-1000 that I'll be glad to send you if you think you 
 
can make use of them in restoring it.
 
Bruce
K7IJ
 
 
In a message dated 11/22/2008 9:13:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have  an SCR-1000 that was being used as a local repeater and then
was replaced.  I am looking for information on the control circuits,
how to program the  IDer, a service and or users manual and any other
info I can find. The unit  is VHF (not sure if that matters).

There have been a number of  modifications done to this unit that need
to be removed and the unit put  back to it's out of box configuration
if possible.

I thank you for  any help you may be able to  provide.

Keith
KB8VUL




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[Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000

2008-11-22 Thread Keith Foor
I have an SCR-1000 that was being used as a local repeater and then
was replaced.  I am looking for information on the control circuits,
how to program the IDer, a service and or users manual and any other
info I can find.  The unit is VHF (not sure if that matters).

There have been a number of modifications done to this unit that need
to be removed and the unit put back to it's out of box configuration
if possible.

I thank you for any help you may be able to provide.


Keith
KB8VUL




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000

2008-11-22 Thread Mike Reed
I have one of those critters also, but no book. Spectrum wants a small 
fortune for it. As for the ID unit, it is a burned chip that is not really 
available. I would suggest an after market one.
 That is what I know so far...
 73
 Mike - N7ZEF

- Original Message - 
From: Keith Foor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:02 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000


I have an SCR-1000 that was being used as a local repeater and then
was replaced.  I am looking for information on the control circuits,
how to program the IDer, a service and or users manual and any other
info I can find.  The unit is VHF (not sure if that matters).

There have been a number of modifications done to this unit that need
to be removed and the unit put back to it's out of box configuration
if possible.

I thank you for any help you may be able to provide.


Keith
KB8VUL







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000

2008-11-22 Thread Paul Plack
These repeaters got a bad reputation in part because of hams who tuned them be 
peaking rather than using the procedure in the manual. The PA was fairly 
efficient, but not unconditionally stable, and could produce spurs if not 
properly tuned.

One other issue was the combination of Spectrum repeater and ACC controller, 
which was once a very common setup. One of the busier systems in Atlanta in the 
80's used this combo, and despite proper tuning, it was incredible dirty, with 
spurs at regular frequency intervals. Many hairs were torn out until it was 
discovered that the ACC's digital clocking noise passed down the PTT line was 
actually modulating the exciter.

From my point of view, that's a boo/hiss on both ACC and Spectrum.

73,
Paul, AE4KR

- Original Message - 
  From: Mike Reed 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications 
SCR-1000


  I have one of those critters also, but no book. Spectrum wants a small 
  fortune for it. As for the ID unit, it is a burned chip that is not really 
  available. I would suggest an after market one.
  That is what I know so far...
  73
  Mike - N7ZEF

  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith Foor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:02 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000

  I have an SCR-1000 that was being used as a local repeater and then
  was replaced. I am looking for information on the control circuits,
  how to program the IDer, a service and or users manual and any other
  info I can find. The unit is VHF (not sure if that matters).

  There have been a number of modifications done to this unit that need
  to be removed and the unit put back to it's out of box configuration
  if possible.

  I thank you for any help you may be able to provide.

  Keith
  KB8VUL

  

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000

2008-11-22 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ

How about the 15KHz coming down the audio lines?

ACC also had a situation where they took a 15KHz clock pulse train
from the microprocessor circuitry, amplified it with an LM386 audio amp,
rectified it, filtered it, and used it as the raw negative voltage supply into
the negative voltage regulator that fed all of the audio stages.

I was an inventive and elegant way to generate a negative voltage
from a positive supply.

Until the filter caps dried out.

Then you had a 15khz square wave modulation impressed on top of
the repeater transmitter and link transmitter (actually the remote
base) audio.  The average ham monitoring the channel never heard
it, BUT THE REPEATER INPUTS 15KHz AWAY DID.
There was a spur every 15khz up and down the band (the amount of
spectrum that was trashed depended on the cavity filters of the
duplexer, if any).

The solution?  Replace EVERY electrolytic cap in the entire ACC
controller with quality parts rated at 75 degrees C (if not 85
degrees C).

I did several controllers, and told several other controller owners
about the problem and they fixed their own boxen.

Funny thing - the average stock Motorola and GE repeater station
owner didn't have a problem because the splatter filters (that were
designed in from the factory) just wouldn't let 15KHz through.

Mike WA6ILQ

At 11:01 PM 11/22/08, you wrote:
These repeaters got a bad reputation in part because of hams who 
tuned them be peaking rather than using the procedure in the manual. 
The PA was fairly efficient, but not unconditionally stable, and 
could produce spurs if not properly tuned.


One other issue was the combination of Spectrum repeater and ACC 
controller, which was once a very common setup. One of the busier 
systems in Atlanta in the 80's used this combo, and despite proper 
tuning, it was incredible dirty, with spurs at regular frequency 
intervals. Many hairs were torn out until it was discovered that the 
ACC's digital clocking noise passed down the PTT line was actually 
modulating the exciter.


From my point of view, that's a boo/hiss on both ACC and Spectrum.

73,
Paul, AE4KR

- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mike Reed
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum 
Communications SCR-1000


I have one of those critters also, but no book. Spectrum wants a small
fortune for it. As for the ID unit, it is a burned chip that is not really
available. I would suggest an after market one.
That is what I know so far...
73
Mike - N7ZEF

- Original Message -
From: Keith Foor mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:02 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Information on Spectrum Communications SCR-1000

I have an SCR-1000 that was being used as a local repeater and then
was replaced. I am looking for information on the control circuits,
how to program the IDer, a service and or users manual and any other
info I can find. The unit is VHF (not sure if that matters).

There have been a number of modifications done to this unit that need
to be removed and the unit put back to it's out of box configuration
if possible.

I thank you for any help you may be able to provide.

Keith
KB8VUL



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