[Repeater-Builder] Mitrek problem

2010-03-01 Thread kernkampj
Recently I had a problem with a Mitrek radio,  The RX channel element would not 
reliably start oscillating on power-up.  In my experimenting, I discovered that 
the problem related to the power supply I used.

I had four power sources - two linear supplies, one switcher, and a battery.  
One of the linears and the battery worked fine.  The other linear and the 
switcher created the non-start problem. 

I finally noticed that the radio has two internal power sources for the channel 
element (9.5 Reg and 9.5 switched), and wondered if the timing of the two 
sources could be the problem.  So I slowed down the 9.5 switched source, and 
that cured it.  The channel element now starts every time from any of the power 
supplies.

For those interested, I added a 100uF cap from the base of Q1 (the receiver 
9.5V Switched supply) to ground.  This slowed down the voltage output of the 
9.5 switched source.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek problem

2010-03-01 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, kernkampj wrote:
 Recently I had a problem with a Mitrek radio, The RX channel element 
 would not reliably start oscillating on power-up.  In my 
 experimenting, I discovered that the problem related to the power 
 supply I used.
 
 I had four power sources - two linear supplies, one switcher, and a 
 battery.  One of the linears and the battery worked fine.  The other 
 linear and the switcher created the non-start problem.
 
 I finally noticed that the radio has two internal power sources for 
 the channel element (9.5 Reg and 9.5 switched), and wondered if the 
 timing of the two sources could be the problem.  So I slowed down the 
 9.5 switched source, and that cured it.  The channel element now 
 starts every time from any of the power supplies.
 
 For those interested, I added a 100uF cap from the base of Q1 (the 
 receiver 9.5V Switched supply) to ground.  This slowed down the 
 voltage output of the 9.5 switched source.

You might have one or more electrolytic capacitors which have dried out. 
I think the last Mitrek rolled off the line before I was born, which is 
longer ago than I'd like to admit. 

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst