Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 Delta S's as a UHF repeater

2004-05-19 Thread KC1RM
You can use an S or SX for the transmitter, but the receiver definitely needs 
to be
the S.  The helicals in the S make the difference.  I think the S has about 2-3 
MHz
of bandwidth on receive, while the SX has close to 20 MHz.

I have also used GE Phoenix S UHF radios for a repeater as well.  Picked up a 
couple
of narrowband units a while ago for $10 each.  As longs as I keep the power 
down,
seems to work pretty well.

Any other questions, feel free to ask.

Jim


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> Thanks much for the info.  Did you use S or SXs for two meters?
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 Delta S's as a UHF repeater

2004-05-19 Thread k0jxi
Thanks much for the info.  Did you use S or SXs for two meters?

73, Dale---



 In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "KC1RM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have done this on both 2 meters and 70cm with no problems.  In fact, if you
> set the radios up identically, you can 'flip' them if either a transmitter or 
> receiver
> fails.  
> 
> Jim, KC1RM
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> From: "k0jxi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:20 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Delta S's as a UHF repeater
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> > Just wonder if anyone has used two 450 Delta S model radios with one as the 
> > receiver and one as the transmitter for a repeater
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> > Thinking that the narrowband models might have the needed isolation for 
> > installation
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> > Thanks, Dale
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 Delta S's as a UHF repeater

2004-05-19 Thread kf4pxz
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "k0jxi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> Just wonder if anyone has used two 450 Delta S model radios with 
one as the receiver and one as the transmitter for a repeater
> 
> Thinking that the narrowband models might have the needed isolation 
for installation
> 
> Thanks, Dale

Hello Dale,

I have a pair of VHF Delta S's that I am using as a backup repeater - 
actually I have been using it for about two months now while I 
overhaul the 'ole Micor.  It works fantastic - good audio, plenty of 
RF - 110 watt Delta running at 60 watts.  The helical front end seems 
to work well as there is a 1/4 kW fire department paging transmitter 
on an adjacent tower about 500 yrds away.  I have heard that the 
Delta receiver is very similar to the Mastr III station rx.  We have 
a BpBr duplexer in place and there doesn't seem to be any problem 
with desense with the 600 kc split.  I would imagine that with the 5 
mHz split on UHF it would work real well.

I wired the two control head cables into one control head by 
connecting the BCD lines to both radios, the receive audio, speaker, 
& COR lines into the RX radio and the mic and PTT lines into the Tx 
radio.  There is information on one of the packet sites that tells 
you how to run the radio with no control head.  If you do that you 
will need to put your channel info into ch. 16 because the Delta 
selects the channels by grounding various combinations of the 4 BCD 
lines.  Ch. 16 is selected when none of the BCD lines are grounded.

It works so well that the work on the Micor has become a back-burner 
issue.

I did read somewhere that if you turn the power on the Delta too much 
it will go crazy and put out a bunch of spurs, so keep that in mind.

If you need any details drop me a note.

73
Robert







 
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