Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Mhz. repeater
skipp025 wrote: > >>"Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Kevin is correct. Buying new is NOT always the >>way to go. > > > One must properly weigh all the options for it's > been said that "hams can be frugle". > > >>What would you rather own, a brand new Yugo, or a 10 >>year old McLaren F1 Indy? Or a 10 year old Rolls maybe? >>The made-for-amateur stuff needs to be 'babysat' >>constantly, while the Motorola and GE stuff just runs. >>Jim Barbour >>WD8CHL > > > Don't know what planet you're on Jim, but your > above statement makes it look like you're living > in dreamland. Much of the Made-For-Amateur gear > is pretty nice stuff for the price. > > Try the decafe Jim... > > cheers, > skipp Well, sorry Skip, but I put Spectrum, Kendecom, Maggiore, Hamtronics, and VHF engineering in the "Yugo" category of repeaters, based on hearing them on the air, looking inside at the workmanship and design, and seeing first-hand the problems they have. Of all of those mfg, I only know of one rptr here still on the air. It's an OLD Spectrum UHF that's been on the air for 15 yrs, but it's had lots of trimmer caps changed out ove the years. It gets "babysat" a lot, keeping it on freq, and keeping the tx clean. It needs a lot of TLC, but he works at the site, and can just walk down the hall when it needs something. All the rest of the rptrs in the immediate area are converted commercial gear, because of the problems they've had with the made-for-ham stuff. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Mhz. repeater
Holiday weekend kicking in gear... I'll be hit and miss on the web for the next few days while I wrestle with 1-5/8" hardline. skipp025 at yahoo.com remember how yahoo removes the last portion of your Email domain when reading the group on the web [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Danny R. Goodrum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Skipp send me ur email address please > Danny > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Mhz. repeater
Skipp send me ur email address please Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Mhz. repeater > > > Re: 220 Mhz. repeater > > My goodness... there's a lot of love and > good cheer going around the group today. > > Onward.. > > I don't believe the below mentioned mfgrs always > spec the specific application, but Midland Does > or did make 220 Repeater Gear. Motorola has been > known to spec and supply repeater gear in odd > bands, but since I'm not in their loop anymore I > can't tell you what they currently offer overseas > at this time. > > On more than one occassion, I've serviced > some really wild repeaters on large cruise > ships from Europe and Asia. Other parts of the > world have and use ham and commercial bands we > don't even know about and Motorhead makes or > made repeaters for these ranges. > > I've got the software for and had a source for > a Motorola repeater on 220 MHz range factory > built repeater. Serviced and sent it back > to Asia a few years ago. > > Don't know if EF Johnson has resurfaced to > offer after the factory move. > > If anyone VERY SERIOUSLY wants a new Kenwood > 220 Ham Repeater New, Email me off the list > "I'm a can do kind of guy..." > > cheers, > skipp > > > Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does Kenwood, Motorola, Midland, and Johnson > > build 220 MHz. Ham Repeaters? If not, it really > > doesn't matter how damn good their (wan tee) is. > > Kevin Custer > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Mhz. repeater
Re: 220 Mhz. repeater My goodness... there's a lot of love and good cheer going around the group today. Onward.. I don't believe the below mentioned mfgrs always spec the specific application, but Midland Does or did make 220 Repeater Gear. Motorola has been known to spec and supply repeater gear in odd bands, but since I'm not in their loop anymore I can't tell you what they currently offer overseas at this time. On more than one occassion, I've serviced some really wild repeaters on large cruise ships from Europe and Asia. Other parts of the world have and use ham and commercial bands we don't even know about and Motorhead makes or made repeaters for these ranges. I've got the software for and had a source for a Motorola repeater on 220 MHz range factory built repeater. Serviced and sent it back to Asia a few years ago. Don't know if EF Johnson has resurfaced to offer after the factory move. If anyone VERY SERIOUSLY wants a new Kenwood 220 Ham Repeater New, Email me off the list "I'm a can do kind of guy..." cheers, skipp > Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does Kenwood, Motorola, Midland, and Johnson > build 220 MHz. Ham Repeaters? If not, it really > doesn't matter how damn good their (wan tee) is. > Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Mhz. repeater
> "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin is correct. Buying new is NOT always the > way to go. One must properly weigh all the options for it's been said that "hams can be frugle". > What would you rather own, a brand new Yugo, or a 10 > year old McLaren F1 Indy? Or a 10 year old Rolls maybe? > The made-for-amateur stuff needs to be 'babysat' > constantly, while the Motorola and GE stuff just runs. > Jim Barbour > WD8CHL Don't know what planet you're on Jim, but your above statement makes it look like you're living in dreamland. Much of the Made-For-Amateur gear is pretty nice stuff for the price. Try the decafe Jim... cheers, skipp Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Mhz. repeater
At 3/23/2005 05:55 PM, you wrote: >Re: Maggiore 220 Receivers > >I'll second (or third that)... I just put >another on the air. The only thing I don't >like about most of these type receivers is >how they offer up the local speaker audio >as the input to the repeater controller. So what happens if you adjust the local speaker volume? Does it mess up the repeat audio level? Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Mhz. repeater
Costs serious additional money. A good buffered audio circuit should be included into these type receiver circuits very often sold for repeater operation. Spectrum does this part pretty well, no need to go with the extra hardware/costs regarding this issue. Sometimes you have to use what you have or make/buy something to improve a circuit. You like white wine, I like strong cabs... cheers, skipp > "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > go with descriminator audio and a micro > squelch board, problem solved. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Mhz. repeater
go with descriminator audio and a micro squelch board, problem solved. -Original Message- From: skipp025 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:56 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Mhz. repeater Re: Maggiore 220 Receivers I'll second (or third that)... I just put another on the air. The only thing I don't like about most of these type receivers is how they offer up the local speaker audio as the input to the repeater controller. Many of these receivers simply dump audio to a resistive load and you get the added (small but still un-needed) distortion of the additional LM-380 audio power amp (which can be almost 8% at modest volume levels), which you really don't want or need in the repeater receiver recovered audio path. Some Hamtronics' layouts use the method of taking audio (across a resistor) after the af power amplifier IC. Here's where the flames start. Actually, the Spectrum Brand of Receivers have a really well done buffered low level audio section to obtain the recovered audio without the audio power amp distortion. I don't want to add a Micor Slow-Fast circuit, all I want is a clean working fast-close squelch circuit built into the original receiver circuit, which provides full bandwidth buffered , gated and de-emph audio. Spectrum at least does this one thing very well (although their customer service is another story) Hamtronics and Maggiore could do a lot to improve this function in their receivers, even though the supplied circuits do work very well. After buying the receiver, it doesn't make a lot of sense to need to purchase or build an additional squelch board circuit to rid yourself of the crash noise. Otherwise the discriminator circuit in the Maggiore is really very nice and has great audio recovery - performance. Cheers, skipp > "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll second that, > I own 3 maggiore repeaters. > One of my sights, ihaven't been to in over 3 years. > > -Original Message- > From: russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:58 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater > > > > Hey Danny, > You can't beat the new Maggiore repeaters > for 222MHz! I have a pile of them on the air > and they just run and run! Can't beat there > new receiver on 222! > Very best of 73, > Russ, W3CH > > - Original Message - > From: "Danny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:08 PM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater > > > > > Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used > > > > Thanks, > > Danny Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Mhz. repeater
Re: Maggiore 220 Receivers I'll second (or third that)... I just put another on the air. The only thing I don't like about most of these type receivers is how they offer up the local speaker audio as the input to the repeater controller. Many of these receivers simply dump audio to a resistive load and you get the added (small but still un-needed) distortion of the additional LM-380 audio power amp (which can be almost 8% at modest volume levels), which you really don't want or need in the repeater receiver recovered audio path. Some Hamtronics' layouts use the method of taking audio (across a resistor) after the af power amplifier IC. Here's where the flames start. Actually, the Spectrum Brand of Receivers have a really well done buffered low level audio section to obtain the recovered audio without the audio power amp distortion. I don't want to add a Micor Slow-Fast circuit, all I want is a clean working fast-close squelch circuit built into the original receiver circuit, which provides full bandwidth buffered , gated and de-emph audio. Spectrum at least does this one thing very well (although their customer service is another story) Hamtronics and Maggiore could do a lot to improve this function in their receivers, even though the supplied circuits do work very well. After buying the receiver, it doesn't make a lot of sense to need to purchase or build an additional squelch board circuit to rid yourself of the crash noise. Otherwise the discriminator circuit in the Maggiore is really very nice and has great audio recovery - performance. Cheers, skipp > "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll second that, > I own 3 maggiore repeaters. > One of my sights, ihaven't been to in over 3 years. > > -Original Message- > From: russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:58 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater > > > > Hey Danny, > You can't beat the new Maggiore repeaters > for 222MHz! I have a pile of them on the air > and they just run and run! Can't beat there > new receiver on 222! > Very best of 73, > Russ, W3CH > > - Original Message - > From: "Danny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:08 PM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater > > > > > Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used > > > > Thanks, > > Danny Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
