Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS?

2010-03-29 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Fuggitaboutit wrote:
 there was all this talk about the old uarts in the older machines 
 which i dont really believe if you can get the sofare to run in a dos 
 box then great it wouldnt matter how new the machine hardware software 
 is the spectra radio here works but the grief i would have to go 
 through to get the radio to communicate with anything is not worth my 
 time

The problem is that the timing loops associated with serial 
communication in that software run too fast on modern hardware, causing 
the software to try to talk to the radio faster than the radio is 
capable of writing to its firmware. 

i386 virtual machines are great, but it is possible to have something 
execute in that virtual machine at 2+ GHz today. 

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS?

2010-03-29 Thread Carlos Neves (CT3FQ)

check http://www.dosbox.com/ works for me in all machines..
73


On 29-03-2010 11:21, Kris Kirby wrote:


On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Fuggitaboutit wrote:
 there was all this talk about the old uarts in the older machines
 which i dont really believe if you can get the sofare to run in a dos
 box then great it wouldnt matter how new the machine hardware software
 is the spectra radio here works but the grief i would have to go
 through to get the radio to communicate with anything is not worth my
 time

The problem is that the timing loops associated with serial
communication in that software run too fast on modern hardware, causing
the software to try to talk to the radio faster than the radio is
capable of writing to its firmware.

i386 virtual machines are great, but it is possible to have something
execute in that virtual machine at 2+ GHz today.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst






[Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS?

2010-03-29 Thread wb8vlc
One important thing to remember about dosbox and Motorola RSS is that your PC 
needs a real serial port that has both windows and dos compatible drivers.

 Preferably a 16540 style UART works best with a new PC, dosbox and some 
Motorola RSS software, still really old RSS like that for the syntor X9000 will 
not work in dosbox.

 Also as to USB adapters, I have never been able to get a USB to serial adapter 
to work with Motorola RSS and dosbox, you absolutely need a serial port that is 
dos capable.


Mike

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Carlos Neves (CT3FQ) ct...@... 
wrote:

 check http://www.dosbox.com/ works for me in all machines..
 73
 
 
 On 29-03-2010 11:21, Kris Kirby wrote:
 
  On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Fuggitaboutit wrote:
   there was all this talk about the old uarts in the older machines
   which i dont really believe if you can get the sofare to run in a dos
   box then great it wouldnt matter how new the machine hardware software
   is the spectra radio here works but the grief i would have to go
   through to get the radio to communicate with anything is not worth my
   time
 
  The problem is that the timing loops associated with serial
  communication in that software run too fast on modern hardware, causing
  the software to try to talk to the radio faster than the radio is
  capable of writing to its firmware.
 
  i386 virtual machines are great, but it is possible to have something
  execute in that virtual machine at 2+ GHz today.
 
  --
  Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
  Disinformation Analyst
 
 





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS?

2010-03-28 Thread Fuggitaboutit
there was all this talk about the old uarts in the older machines 
which i dont really believe 
if you can get the sofare to run in a dos box then great 
it wouldnt matter how new the machine hardware software is
the spectra radio here works but the grief i would have to go through
to get the radio to communicate with anything is not worth my time

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Wade sacramento.cycl...@... 
wrote:

 Good evening,
 
  Well the subject line asks the question.The Dell M70 is a
 1.8 ghz Pentium M machine.  What I've done is this:
 
  Installed DOS7.1 (the Wind98SE one) in a dual boot
 arrangement on its own partition.  I have been able to run RSS under
 this DOS on a different machine.
 
  Run FIFO.com to disable the FIFO buffer on the 16550A UART
 
  Run RSS with MoSlo at various slower speeds with both
 methods of slowdown.
 
Constructive suggestions welcome...Thanks!
 
Dennis
 
 -- 
 I've been wondering lately...Where am I going and why AM I in this
 hand basket??
 
 -
 Dennis L. Wade
 KG6ZI
 Carmichael, CA





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS?

2010-03-24 Thread Dawn
Are the serial ports on a PCMCIA card or does the laptop treat the serial port 
as a card? You may need some additional software known as a point enabler to 
access it under DOS.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, burkleoj joeburk...@... wrote:

 Dennis,
 I have had problems with both the MT1000 and HT600 software on some laptops.
 
 I had to use the DOS MODE command to hard set the serial port to 9600,8,N,1 
 parameters to make one Dell laptop work and I never could make a couple other 
 laptops work no matter what I tried.
 
 I have used both Dell and Gateway P1 and PII desktops with no issues and have 
 not had to use any of the tricks that some laptops require.
 
 I tried the above combination with both a Motorola programmer and a 
 aftermarket unit with the same results. The laptops either worked with both 
 programmers or did not work with either programmer.
 
 Good Luck.
 
 Joe - WA7JAW
 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Wade sacramento.cyclist@ 
 wrote:
 
  Good evening,
  
   Well the subject line asks the question.The Dell M70 is a
  1.8 ghz Pentium M machine.  What I've done is this:
  
   Installed DOS7.1 (the Wind98SE one) in a dual boot
  arrangement on its own partition.  I have been able to run RSS under
  this DOS on a different machine.
  
   Run FIFO.com to disable the FIFO buffer on the 16550A UART
  
   Run RSS with MoSlo at various slower speeds with both
  methods of slowdown.
  
 Constructive suggestions welcome...Thanks!
  
 Dennis
  
  -- 
  I've been wondering lately...Where am I going and why AM I in this
  hand basket??
  
  -
  Dennis L. Wade
  KG6ZI
  Carmichael, CA
 





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS?

2010-03-23 Thread burkleoj
Dennis,
I have had problems with both the MT1000 and HT600 software on some laptops.

I had to use the DOS MODE command to hard set the serial port to 9600,8,N,1 
parameters to make one Dell laptop work and I never could make a couple other 
laptops work no matter what I tried.

I have used both Dell and Gateway P1 and PII desktops with no issues and have 
not had to use any of the tricks that some laptops require.

I tried the above combination with both a Motorola programmer and a aftermarket 
unit with the same results. The laptops either worked with both programmers or 
did not work with either programmer.

Good Luck.

Joe - WA7JAW


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Wade sacramento.cycl...@... 
wrote:

 Good evening,
 
  Well the subject line asks the question.The Dell M70 is a
 1.8 ghz Pentium M machine.  What I've done is this:
 
  Installed DOS7.1 (the Wind98SE one) in a dual boot
 arrangement on its own partition.  I have been able to run RSS under
 this DOS on a different machine.
 
  Run FIFO.com to disable the FIFO buffer on the 16550A UART
 
  Run RSS with MoSlo at various slower speeds with both
 methods of slowdown.
 
Constructive suggestions welcome...Thanks!
 
Dennis
 
 -- 
 I've been wondering lately...Where am I going and why AM I in this
 hand basket??
 
 -
 Dennis L. Wade
 KG6ZI
 Carmichael, CA