Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC typr acp.
NO!
You missed the point you can not use a Micore.
Our port-a-peater for GMRS is a Kenwood TKR-850 (good for part-95) it is
mounted in a nice cabinet with handles. We bought it from TESSCO for a good
price.
The rule for out put on GMRS are as follows.
Repeater is 50 watts (NOT ERP)
Mobile is 50 watts.
Small base or control station is 5 watts.
HT is 5 watts erp. (Most GMRS HT are 4 watts out put so they get 5 watts
erp.)
You can down load a copy of part 95 from many places on the web.
Enjoy GMRS it is a pile of fun.
But follow the rules.
Very best of 73,
Russ,
Ham, W3CH.
GMRS, WPYK-254
- Original Message -
From:
Ronny Julian
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 5:59
PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC
typr acp.
What are the rules on a portable
repeater? Would a mobile Micor as a portable be ok? Is 50w ERP the
rule?
- Original Message -
From:
russ
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 5:17
PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC
typr acp.
Yes! They have shut down a few un license
GMRS repeaters in the Phila.. PA area. They even got a contractor for
no license. They even got a group in the Camden NJ area for no license and
it was a non profit group running a fund-raiser with all HT's. So yes they
are working on it. They busted me for running a Master two on GMRS. It had
been on for a while and on a part 17 tower inspection on a matter not
connected to me they saw the unit while check all units in the tower. As for
using outer things I had two master two's and one Micor and I have replaced
them all with 3 Kenwood TKR-850 repeaters. You can run any thing you would
like BUT it can be costly. The outer thing is they found a few 100 watt
units (50 watts Max on GMRS repeaters) and some mobiles used as repeaters
and it is not a good thing. They are nice about it. But! I found in my case
it was better and cheaper to replace the units then keep them on a pay a
fine.
Good luck and enjoy GMRS I sure do.
Very best of 73,
Russ,
Ham, W3CH
GMRS, WPYK-254
- Original Message -
From:
Ronny
Julian
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004
12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:
FCC typr acp.
Then how is it I see them and lots
of other GE, Midland etc stuff in use as GMRS stuff. I guess there
is no self policing of these frequencies like there is in Amateur. I
bet if there was that the 5 and 8 mile radios on sale at Wal-Mart (junk
compared to a good Kenwood 349E BTW) would be protested by legally
licensed GMRS operators. I saw how Wal-Mart and the manufactures get
around this though by including a mice type version of the GMRS
application inside folded up in the part you toss.
Has there ever been a "Pirate" GMRS
repeater shut down? GMRS is new to me and I'm wondering if it's just
a freeband whose only requirement is $80 to the FCC and then that is
optional if no one complains.
I notice there are only 2 GMRS
repeaters here in my area. No one seems to use them at
all.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004
12:13 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC
typr acp.
If
you're talking about the TK349's appearing on Ebay and Overstock.com, No
they are not type accepted (certified) for use in the US. Just look at
the label and you will see something like "certified for the UK". These
radios can only be used legally on the ham bands in the US, not for
commercial purposes, no GMRS either. Same forTK709 and
TK809.Art - KC7GFGolden, COGROL
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC typr acp.
What are the rules on a portable
repeater? Would a mobile Micor as a portable be ok? Is 50w ERP the
rule?
- Original Message -
From:
russ
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 5:17
PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC
typr acp.
Yes! They have shut down a few un license
GMRS repeaters in the Phila.. PA area. They even got a contractor for no
license. They even got a group in the Camden NJ area for no license and it was
a non profit group running a fund-raiser with all HT's. So yes they are
working on it. They busted me for running a Master two on GMRS. It had been on
for a while and on a part 17 tower inspection on a matter not connected to me
they saw the unit while check all units in the tower. As for using outer
things I had two master two's and one Micor and I have replaced them all with
3 Kenwood TKR-850 repeaters. You can run any thing you would like BUT it can
be costly. The outer thing is they found a few 100 watt units (50 watts Max on
GMRS repeaters) and some mobiles used as repeaters and it is not a good thing.
They are nice about it. But! I found in my case it was better and cheaper to
replace the units then keep them on a pay a fine.
Good luck and enjoy GMRS I sure do.
Very best of 73,
Russ,
Ham, W3CH
GMRS, WPYK-254
- Original Message -
From:
Ronny Julian
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:59
PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC
typr acp.
Then how is it I see them and lots of
other GE, Midland etc stuff in use as GMRS stuff. I guess there is no
self policing of these frequencies like there is in Amateur. I bet if
there was that the 5 and 8 mile radios on sale at Wal-Mart (junk compared to
a good Kenwood 349E BTW) would be protested by legally licensed GMRS
operators. I saw how Wal-Mart and the manufactures get around this
though by including a mice type version of the GMRS application inside
folded up in the part you toss.
Has there ever been a "Pirate" GMRS
repeater shut down? GMRS is new to me and I'm wondering if it's just a
freeband whose only requirement is $80 to the FCC and then that is optional
if no one complains.
I notice there are only 2 GMRS
repeaters here in my area. No one seems to use them at
all.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004
12:13 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC
typr acp.
If
you're talking about the TK349's appearing on Ebay and Overstock.com, No
they are not type accepted (certified) for use in the US. Just look at the
label and you will see something like "certified for the UK". These radios
can only be used legally on the ham bands in the US, not for commercial
purposes, no GMRS either. Same forTK709 and TK809.Art -
KC7GFGolden, COGROL
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC typr acp.
OH! By the way we have GMRS repeaters in Ocean City NJ, Glassboro NJ and
Chester PA.
All three get used a lot by licensed GMRS people. We did have a few Hams on
the GMRS with out a GMRS after asking them to leave a few times we changed all
the tones to digital and the seems to have fixed that problem. Most of our
repeaters have one chat tone on and 8 for each family so we get a pile of folks
on GMRS.
Enjoy GMRS,
73 Russ,
Ham, W3CH
GMRS, WPYK-254
- Original Message -
From:
Ronny Julian
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:59
PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC
typr acp.
Then how is it I see them and lots of
other GE, Midland etc stuff in use as GMRS stuff. I guess there is no
self policing of these frequencies like there is in Amateur. I bet if
there was that the 5 and 8 mile radios on sale at Wal-Mart (junk compared to a
good Kenwood 349E BTW) would be protested by legally licensed GMRS
operators. I saw how Wal-Mart and the manufactures get around this
though by including a mice type version of the GMRS application inside folded
up in the part you toss.
Has there ever been a "Pirate" GMRS
repeater shut down? GMRS is new to me and I'm wondering if it's just a
freeband whose only requirement is $80 to the FCC and then that is optional if
no one complains.
I notice there are only 2 GMRS
repeaters here in my area. No one seems to use them at
all.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:13
PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC
typr acp.
If you're
talking about the TK349's appearing on Ebay and Overstock.com, No they are
not type accepted (certified) for use in the US. Just look at the label and
you will see something like "certified for the UK". These radios can only be
used legally on the ham bands in the US, not for commercial purposes, no
GMRS either. Same forTK709 and TK809.Art - KC7GFGolden,
COGROL
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC typr acp.
Yes! They have shut down a few un license
GMRS repeaters in the Phila.. PA area. They even got a contractor for no
license. They even got a group in the Camden NJ area for no license and it was a
non profit group running a fund-raiser with all HT's. So yes they are working on
it. They busted me for running a Master two on GMRS. It had been on for a while
and on a part 17 tower inspection on a matter not connected to me they saw the
unit while check all units in the tower. As for using outer things I had two
master two's and one Micor and I have replaced them all with 3 Kenwood TKR-850
repeaters. You can run any thing you would like BUT it can be costly. The outer
thing is they found a few 100 watt units (50 watts Max on GMRS repeaters) and
some mobiles used as repeaters and it is not a good thing. They are nice about
it. But! I found in my case it was better and cheaper to replace the units then
keep them on a pay a fine.
Good luck and enjoy GMRS I sure do.
Very best of 73,
Russ,
Ham, W3CH
GMRS, WPYK-254
- Original Message -
From:
Ronny Julian
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:59
PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC
typr acp.
Then how is it I see them and lots of
other GE, Midland etc stuff in use as GMRS stuff. I guess there is no
self policing of these frequencies like there is in Amateur. I bet if
there was that the 5 and 8 mile radios on sale at Wal-Mart (junk compared to a
good Kenwood 349E BTW) would be protested by legally licensed GMRS
operators. I saw how Wal-Mart and the manufactures get around this
though by including a mice type version of the GMRS application inside folded
up in the part you toss.
Has there ever been a "Pirate" GMRS
repeater shut down? GMRS is new to me and I'm wondering if it's just a
freeband whose only requirement is $80 to the FCC and then that is optional if
no one complains.
I notice there are only 2 GMRS
repeaters here in my area. No one seems to use them at
all.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:13
PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC
typr acp.
If you're
talking about the TK349's appearing on Ebay and Overstock.com, No they are
not type accepted (certified) for use in the US. Just look at the label and
you will see something like "certified for the UK". These radios can only be
used legally on the ham bands in the US, not for commercial purposes, no
GMRS either. Same forTK709 and TK809.Art - KC7GFGolden,
COGROL
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC typr acp.
Then how is it I see them and lots of other GE, Midland etc stuff in use as GMRS stuff. I guess there is no self policing of these frequencies like there is in Amateur. I bet if there was that the 5 and 8 mile radios on sale at Wal-Mart (junk compared to a good Kenwood 349E BTW) would be protested by legally licensed GMRS operators. I saw how Wal-Mart and the manufactures get around this though by including a mice type version of the GMRS application inside folded up in the part you toss. Has there ever been a "Pirate" GMRS repeater shut down? GMRS is new to me and I'm wondering if it's just a freeband whose only requirement is $80 to the FCC and then that is optional if no one complains. I notice there are only 2 GMRS repeaters here in my area. No one seems to use them at all. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:13 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC typr acp. If you're talking about the TK349's appearing on Ebay and Overstock.com, No they are not type accepted (certified) for use in the US. Just look at the label and you will see something like "certified for the UK". These radios can only be used legally on the ham bands in the US, not for commercial purposes, no GMRS either. Same forTK709 and TK809.Art - KC7GFGolden, COGROL Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC typr acp.
If you're talking about the TK349's appearing on Ebay and Overstock.com, No they are not type accepted (certified) for use in the US. Just look at the label and you will see something like "certified for the UK". These radios can only be used legally on the ham bands in the US, not for commercial purposes, no GMRS either. Same for TK709 and TK809. Art - KC7GF Golden, CO GROL Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
