[Repeater-Builder] Re: Helical or hybrid ring duplexer for 6m

2009-10-31 Thread skipp025
 DCFluX dcf...@... wrote:
 A 1 rack unit duplexer for a 30-50MHz low band 
 system is impractical vs 4 6-8 foot tall 12 
 cavities?

It is until I actually see a picture (or view it in 
person) of the actual constructed unit in operation 
and its measured performance rivals that of the more 
common cavity types. 

Otherwise I'll stay on the bus... 
s.

  skipp025 skipp...@... wrote:
  You have arrived at The Land of Impractical. Please 
  watch your step as you exit the bus.
  s.

 Re: Helical or Hybrid Ring Duplexer for 6M
 I'm working on a theoretical design, but I need 
 5 Circulators.





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Helical or hybrid ring duplexer for 6m

2009-10-30 Thread skipp025
Re: Helical or Hybrid Ring Duplexer for 6M 

 I'm working on a theoretical design, but I need 5 Circulators.

You have arrived at The Land of Impractical. Please watch 
your step as you exit the bus. 

s.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Helical or hybrid ring duplexer for 6m

2009-10-30 Thread DCFluX
A 1 rack unit duplexer for a 30-50MHz low band system is impractical
vs 4 6-8 foot tall 12 cavities?

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:58 PM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Re: Helical or Hybrid Ring Duplexer for 6M

 I'm working on a theoretical design, but I need 5 Circulators.

 You have arrived at The Land of Impractical. Please watch
 your step as you exit the bus.

 s.



 



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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Helical or hybrid ring duplexer for 6m

2009-10-29 Thread cruizzer77


That helical duplexer design is actually the only one I have ever heard of. I 
think I even contacted the builder once but he said it was too long ago to 
remember additional details what I can understand.

Even though this particular one sure works, as long as it's the only one around 
obviously I tend to agree that they must be kind of hard to build or adjust.

Anyone else know anything? Especially also about the hybrid ring thing?

73
Martin




--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 skipp...@... wrote:

 
 
 
 The Helical Duplexer tends to be lossy... it's hard to 
 get/keep the Q value respectfully high in many home-brew 
 projects (but it can be done. You might research some 
 of the older Decibel Low-Band units for examples. There are 
 actually a fair number of mod/construction projects posted 
 on the web. 
 
 The 1.5/8 and 1.1/4 (inch) hard line notch pass duplexers 
 are actually pretty nice... and cheap if you're resourceful 
 with recycled/removed feed lines. 
 
 s. 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, cruizzer77 atlantis7@ wrote:
 
  We're going to build a 6m repeater in a place where space is very limited, 
  which means that building a full-size cavity duplexer is not an option.
  
  Of course there's the heliax duplexer, but I would also like to evaluate 
  other possibilities, i.e. the helical duplexer or even a hybrid ring 
  duplexer with helical resonators.
  
  I have got some theoretical info about them, but very few info about actual 
  built units.
  
  Has anyone (successfully or not) built a helical or hybrid ring duplexer 
  for 6m? Any info appreciated!
  
  73
  Martin
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Helical or hybrid ring duplexer for 6m

2009-10-29 Thread DCFluX
I'm working on a theoretical design, but I need 5 circulators.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:09 PM, cruizzer77 atlant...@gmx.ch wrote:


 That helical duplexer design is actually the only one I have ever heard of. I 
 think I even contacted the builder once but he said it was too long ago to 
 remember additional details what I can understand.

 Even though this particular one sure works, as long as it's the only one 
 around obviously I tend to agree that they must be kind of hard to build or 
 adjust.

 Anyone else know anything? Especially also about the hybrid ring thing?

 73
 Martin




 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 skipp...@... wrote:




 The Helical Duplexer tends to be lossy... it's hard to
 get/keep the Q value respectfully high in many home-brew
 projects (but it can be done. You might research some
 of the older Decibel Low-Band units for examples. There are
 actually a fair number of mod/construction projects posted
 on the web.

 The 1.5/8 and 1.1/4 (inch) hard line notch pass duplexers
 are actually pretty nice... and cheap if you're resourceful
 with recycled/removed feed lines.

 s.

 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, cruizzer77 atlantis7@ wrote:
 
  We're going to build a 6m repeater in a place where space is very limited, 
  which means that building a full-size cavity duplexer is not an option.
 
  Of course there's the heliax duplexer, but I would also like to evaluate 
  other possibilities, i.e. the helical duplexer or even a hybrid ring 
  duplexer with helical resonators.
 
  I have got some theoretical info about them, but very few info about 
  actual built units.
 
  Has anyone (successfully or not) built a helical or hybrid ring duplexer 
  for 6m? Any info appreciated!
 
  73
  Martin
 





 



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