[Repeater-Builder] Re: MTR2000 UHF Service manual

2008-10-22 Thread TRACOMM
I agree with Eric, almost sounds like your 1K (or PL/DPL tone) is on 
and affecting the bandpass of the RX. Also check to make sure unit is 
not programmed for narrow band operation.
Would also confirm what version of software repeater is running, 
could have an old version with known bugs.
Have 50 units on the air and never heard of that issue.

Ebay  ham swap items often have odd issues, saw a MTR for sale, 
advertised as a 420-470 unit, on 440 ham channels, but looked like a 
high power 450-470 unit, contacted seller with my questions and he 
explained that unit would only do 60 watts so it must be a full band 
unit doing more than the rated 40 watts.Seller didn't think it was 
necessary to change his listing.Unit sold for a very high price and 
had quite a few bidders, hopefully buyer knew what he was getting.

Factory service is running about $850.00 per module, and about 
$1450.00 for a complete repeater.We have repaired a few power 
supplies, but rest of unit is factory only service.

TRACOMM

In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Camilo, 
 The modules in the MTR2000 station are not user-serviceable, so the 
field service manuals do not contain schematic diagrams.  If you 
believe that the receiver module is defective, you should send it to 
the Motorola Infrastructure Depot for repair.  I currently have six 
MTR2000 stations in service, but have never seen the problem you 
describe. 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
  
 
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 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MTR2000 UHF Service manual
 
 Need help to order a MTR2000 service manual that have the schematic 
diagram of the receiver unit, Got this unit from Ebay, Hook up the 
unit on my bench with a dummy load on the TX out, and apply signal on 
the RX input with a IFR1200, The squelch open at 0.12 micro-volt at 
0.15 uv its 12 DB Sinad, when signal  was increased to about 1.0 
micro-volts or higher the receiver drop out, as if the agc is 
overloaded that cut out completely and also drop the TX, Have
anyone ever experience this problem before, This is the first time I 
have seen this kind of problem , and its hard to fix it w/o a 
diagram. any help is highly appreciated.  
 de w4cso  Camilo



[Repeater-Builder] Re: MTR2000 UHF Service manual

2008-10-21 Thread Joe Burkleo
Just out of curiosity are you performing these tests with a 1000 cycle
tone and if so, have you tried it with no modulation?

It almost sounds like it is going out of the bandpass of the receiver
when you increase the signal level. What happens when you vary the
frequency a few KC higher or lower in frequency than your center
frequency.

I assume you have already tried resetting the radios settings back to
factory default settings in the programming software.

Joe


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Camilo So [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Need help to order a MTR2000 service manual that have the schematic
diagram of the receiver unit, Got this unit from Ebay, Hook up the
unit on my bench with a dummy load on the TX out, and apply signal on
the RX input with a IFR1200, The squelch open at 0.12 micro-volt at
0.15 uv its 12 DB Sinad, when signal 
 was increased to about 1.0 micro-volts or higher the receiver drop
out, as if the agc is overloaded that cut out completely and also drop
the TX, Have anyone ever
 experience this problem before, This is the first time I have seen
this kind of problem , and its hard to fix it w/o a diagram. any help
is highly appreciated.
 
 
 
 de w4cso  Camilo





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MTR2000 UHF Service manual

2008-10-21 Thread Camilo So
Hi Joe,
Yes I did it with a 1000 cycle tone with and with out 1000 cycle but with PL, 

You are correct I did try to vary the freq, and to my surprise even apply TX 
freq to RX freq that was 5 MHZ difference it still have the same sensitivity,

One thing I did not do is resetting the unit, I am new to this unit, never work 
on it before, question how do you reset the unit to factory default, is there a 
reset button or use of software. 

As you and every one know if you got something off Ebay, That some one already 
playing around with the unit, it is also possible programming problem, Is there 
a way
to contact you? on phone or Echolink, Thank you for the reply.


73   W4CSO  Camilo


  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Burkleo 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:13 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MTR2000 UHF Service manual


  Just out of curiosity are you performing these tests with a 1000 cycle
  tone and if so, have you tried it with no modulation?

  It almost sounds like it is going out of the bandpass of the receiver
  when you increase the signal level. What happens when you vary the
  frequency a few KC higher or lower in frequency than your center
  frequency.

  I assume you have already tried resetting the radios settings back to
  factory default settings in the programming software.

  Joe

  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Camilo So [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  
   Need help to order a MTR2000 service manual that have the schematic
  diagram of the receiver unit, Got this unit from Ebay, Hook up the
  unit on my bench with a dummy load on the TX out, and apply signal on
  the RX input with a IFR1200, The squelch open at 0.12 micro-volt at
  0.15 uv its 12 DB Sinad, when signal 
   was increased to about 1.0 micro-volts or higher the receiver drop
  out, as if the agc is overloaded that cut out completely and also drop
  the TX, Have anyone ever
   experience this problem before, This is the first time I have seen
  this kind of problem , and its hard to fix it w/o a diagram. any help
  is highly appreciated.
   
   
   
   de w4cso Camilo