[Repeater-Builder] Re: Update on the MICOR Community Repeater project
Mark, Sorry to hear that you are still fighting this problem. I think we were on the right track when this kinda ended last month, in that what you need to find is a Motrac series community repeater manual that might show the TLN5803A Master Decoder. I have not been able to turn one up yet. I do have one question for you about the original configuration in these stations. Did they originally have a Diode Logic and a Multiple TPL Encoder card installed in them? I am sure you have answered this question already, but I really do not remember. If you still have my number, give me a call and we can talk on the phone. I have misplaced your phone number. 73, Joe - WA7JAW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "n9wys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I got this thing all reassembled and tuned up on the new frequency > pair. a fellow ham (who used to work for the local Motorola shop) came over > with his service monitor and we tuned and tested the system. It is still > not passing PL to the transmitter. Some PL bleeds through from the receive, > but I know that is not correct - nor is it of sufficient level. (I only get > about 90 Hz of deviation with this PL.) > > > > We took a CLOSE look at the Master Decoder card itself and it appears to be > configured VERY differently than the later version depicted in my manual. > For example, the later version card (based on two ICs) has no connection on > Pin 24 to the backplane. My card (an earlier version with discreet > components) appears to have some sort of signal (audio) on Pin 24. So I > need desperately to find either the manual pages pertaining to my older > Master Decoder card, or I need a newer version card. If ANYONE has either > of these, I'd be much obliged of you would contact me. The issue HAS to be > the Master Decoder card - it is not passing any PL to the exciter. The > problem is, I have about 8 of the same vintage Master Decoder card, so > changing them out is not resolving the issue. > > > > For the time being, I am going to put the machine on the air as-is. it works > just fine, other than it will have to be CSQ receive for all users. I'll > decide later on whether I will put in a tone panel, or continue to operate > it as it is now. > > > > Mark - N9WYS / WQIV271 >
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Update on the MICOR Community Repeater project
Mark, That sounds good. I should be available pretty much when ever you have time. After 8 AM until 11 PM Pacific time should be OK. I do not remember if you listed what the part number of the 4 user modules that you have is. If they are not of the same vintage or series as the Master Decoder Card that could be a possible source of a problem. I do not remember much about Motrac Community Repeaters, only worked on a couple of them and that was a long time ago. I may be way off base here, but I would think that all the cards should be of the same vintage or series. If the Master Decoder Card is from the MSY series station, I would expect that the rest of the cards in the chassis would be MSY vintage also. Mark, have you tried finding a TRN6165A Master Decoder Module to try in your repeater? 73, Joe - WA7JAW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "n9wys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, Joe. > > No they were not equipped with either, that I can tell. At least I was not > provided with any of those cards. And I called Motorola, the manuals are > all NLA... > > OK on calling - I think I have your TX number somewhere in the message > archives. Will be working until Friday - my next day off. What's a good > time to try to call? (Remember the 2-hour time difference... ) > > Mark - N9WYS >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update on the MICOR Community Repeater project
Joe Burkleo wrote: > Mark, > Sorry to hear that you are still fighting this problem. > > I think we were on the right track when this kinda ended last month, > in that what you need to find is a Motrac series community repeater > manual that might show the TLN5803A Master Decoder. I have not been > able to turn one up yet. > > I do have one question for you about the original configuration in > these stations. Did they originally have a Diode Logic and a Multiple > TPL Encoder card installed in them? I am sure you have answered this > question already, but I really do not remember. > I have never seen those cards in any Micor CR's I looked at, so I'm certain they are not necessary. I think the right path is that he has MSY Master decoder cards, and I know they are not directly compatible. But I think they can be modded...
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update on the MICOR Community Repeater project
Hi, Joe. No they were not equipped with either, that I can tell. At least I was not provided with any of those cards. And I called Motorola, the manuals are all NLA... OK on calling - I think I have your TX number somewhere in the message archives. Will be working until Friday - my next day off. What's a good time to try to call? (Remember the 2-hour time difference... ) Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Joe Burkleo Mark, Sorry to hear that you are still fighting this problem. I think we were on the right track when this kinda ended last month, in that what you need to find is a Motrac series community repeater manual that might show the TLN5803A Master Decoder. I have not been able to turn one up yet. I do have one question for you about the original configuration in these stations. Did they originally have a Diode Logic and a Multiple TPL Encoder card installed in them? I am sure you have answered this question already, but I really do not remember. If you still have my number, give me a call and we can talk on the phone. I have misplaced your phone number. 73, Joe - WA7JAW
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update on the MICOR Community Repeater project
The Diode Logic Module and Multiple TPL Encoder cards would only have been used if someone wanted to RX one PL code and TX another, ie crosscoding, a rare beast indeed but Moto had the capability... Milt - Original Message - From: "wd8chl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update on the MICOR Community Repeater project > Joe Burkleo wrote: >> Mark, >> Sorry to hear that you are still fighting this problem. >> >> I think we were on the right track when this kinda ended last month, >> in that what you need to find is a Motrac series community repeater >> manual that might show the TLN5803A Master Decoder. I have not been >> able to turn one up yet. >> >> I do have one question for you about the original configuration in >> these stations. Did they originally have a Diode Logic and a Multiple >> TPL Encoder card installed in them? I am sure you have answered this >> question already, but I really do not remember. >> > > I have never seen those cards in any Micor CR's I looked at, so I'm > certain they are not necessary. > > I think the right path is that he has MSY Master decoder cards, and I > know they are not directly compatible. But I think they can be modded... > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update on the MICOR Community Repeater project
Motorola could do it all ! Just put SP after the model. Once worked on a GSA SP Micor that would turn on the coffee pot in the morning. Robert -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Milt Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update on the MICOR Community Repeater project The Diode Logic Module and Multiple TPL Encoder cards would only have been used if someone wanted to RX one PL code and TX another, ie crosscoding, a rare beast indeed but Moto had the capability... Milt - Original Message - From: "wd8chl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Update on the MICOR Community Repeater project > Joe Burkleo wrote: >> Mark, >> Sorry to hear that you are still fighting this problem. >> >> I think we were on the right track when this kinda ended last month, >> in that what you need to find is a Motrac series community repeater >> manual that might show the TLN5803A Master Decoder. I have not been >> able to turn one up yet. >> >> I do have one question for you about the original configuration in >> these stations. Did they originally have a Diode Logic and a Multiple >> TPL Encoder card installed in them? I am sure you have answered this >> question already, but I really do not remember. >> > > I have never seen those cards in any Micor CR's I looked at, so I'm > certain they are not necessary. > > I think the right path is that he has MSY Master decoder cards, and I > know they are not directly compatible. But I think they can be modded... > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
