Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: accepting recommendations

2006-05-08 Thread Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try Toledo, Ohio; Cleveland;and Detroit.  About a 2 to 3 hour drive then.

Al
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> Have one for me while you're there - It looks like I'll have to miss this 
> year  :-(
>
> But I do keep checking the airfare websites every day just in case - I 
> look at fares to Dayton, Columbus, Cincinnati, Louisville, etc.  No 
> reasonable airfares to be found (I've been checking every day since before 
> the beginning of the year). Hopefully next year!
>
> LJ
>
>
>>
>>Very true...
>>cheers,
>>skipp
>>
>>ps: I can almost smell those Dayton Brauts...
>
> 







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: accepting recommendations

2006-05-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have one for me while you're there - It looks like I'll have to miss this year  
:-(

But I do keep checking the airfare websites every day just in case - I look at 
fares to Dayton, Columbus, Cincinnati, Louisville, etc.  No reasonable airfares 
to be found (I've been checking every day since before the beginning of the 
year). Hopefully next year!

LJ


>
>Very true... 
>cheers,
>skipp 
>
>ps: I can almost smell those Dayton Brauts... 





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: accepting recommendations

2006-05-07 Thread skipp025
Hi Larry, 

> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and has even done some of these things like changed out 
> some of the "lifetime warranty" Permakay filters in years 
> past 

One of Motorhead's better foot in mouth offers. "Lifetime 
Warranty on Permakays".  In the late 80's we still had guys 
walk in off the streets trying to get the filters replaced 
free. 

> (but going from wideband to narrowband filters - not 
> the other way around!) 

Doesn't make much sense, but I have seen it done and I've 
been involved with a wideband remote or two used at the 
local flame thrower stations for traffic reports. 

> There are no vacant 2-Meter pairs in this big city area, 

Regardless of what anyone says or does, there are always 
repeater pairs available in most any location.  Two guys 
with 10 minutes total daily use don't justify holding down 
a repeater pair when 35 plus people want to use it the other 
23 hours. You just have to find the silly empire repeater 
operators and figure a way to work something in. Most often 
things end up in a big war... but well planned co-channel 
operation can and should happen in crowed conditions. Not 
to mention the non standard repeater pairs. 

> and even if this was something that was legal to do (it 
> isn't, of course), he'd be on a 20+ year waiting list 
> for a channel to become available. And it certainly 
> would not be a "Wideband" channel. 

Please see my above comments... 

> It certainly takes all kinds - we see it right here on 
> this list, sometimes!
> LJ 

Very true... 
cheers,
skipp 

ps: I can almost smell those Dayton Brauts... 







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: accepting recommendations

2006-05-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I spoke with the Chief Engineer of the radio station where this volunteer 
"helper" wants to build this "Hi-Fi" Ham Band 2-Meter Repeater for a "link" for 
the local FM Stereo station. This situation came up some months ago, and should 
have died by now, but it seems to have appeared again. He tells me that trying 
to reason with this stubborn guy is just absolutely impossible - he has his 
mind made up that he's going to do this project, this way, and that the Chief 
Engineer has no idea what is going on regarding building Repeaters, when he in 
fact has a very well designed, excellent performing 2-Meter, UHF and 6-Meter 
Repeater system (with additional internet and RF links, etc.) He knows what's 
going on when it comes to building Repeaters, and has even done some of these 
things like changed out some of the "lifetime warranty" Permakay filters in 
years past (but going from wideband to narrowband filters - not the other way 
around!) 

There are no vacant 2-Meter pairs in this big city area, and even if this was 
something that was legal to do (it isn't, of course), he'd be on a 20+ year 
waiting list for a channel to become available. And it certainly would not be a 
"Wideband" channel. 

It certainly takes all kinds - we see it right here on this list, sometimes!

LJ




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>From: skipp025 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: May 7, 2006 7:21 PM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: accepting recommendations
>
>> "us_communications1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Good Afternoon Gentlemen,
>
>just the above scares half of us away... 
>
>> I am looking to build a hi-fi quality audio repeater to 
>> feed audio for remote broadcasts of a non-commercial radio 
>> station which has been greatly annoying, 
>
>"greatly annoying"..?
>
>You, the remote broadcasts or the fact that you're on a 
>non commercial radio station?
>
>> as I need a specific IF filter for a motorola receiver 
>> a tu-540w and I have been unable to find the filter. 
>
>You probably won't find a plug and play or drop in replacement 
>filter.  But you need to be more specific...  do you want to 
>do standard voice remotes as in typical short traffic reports?
>... or do you want to do extended voice broadcasts with possible 
>other source material added in.   The former is easily done 
>with standard wideband fm radios, the other is more often done 
>with wide bandwidths. 
>
>> In addition, the chief engineer for the station has been 
>> completely un-helpful. 
>
>It's probably not something he's been required to do in past. 
>And he may not be honestly interested in doing one now. 
>
>> While I am not an amateur radio operator, I am building this 
>> repeater for amateur radio use on the 144-148 mc band and the 
>> engineer of the station claims he has an amateur radio license, 
>> but i am beginning to have my doubts and the engineer has not 
>> been supportive of building a hi-fi audio repeater. 
>
>As wacky as your post reads, I'd also probably have doubts 
>about helping you with a hi-fi audio repeater. "Hi-Fi" and 
>"repeater" don't normally get used in the same sentence. You 
>haven't been clear about what type of material (content) to 
>be sent through this magic box. 
>
>> how can i confirm if the engineer has a amateur radio 
>> license? 
>
>www.qrz.com   Would an Amateur License be required to build 
>a repeater?   I wouldn't think so, although it would be handy. 
>
>> is there a listing of engineers and what licenses they 
> have? 
>
>God I hope not...  and no I don't think so. 
>
>> i went through a lot of trouble to find the older tube 
>> type equipment to build this hi-fi quality audio repeater 
>> and want to make it work to serve the non-commercial fm 
>> station. 
>
>In the 144-148 MHz band?  Tube type equipment you think will 
>have better audio than some of the newer stuff?  Some of the 
>group readers are falling back over in their chairs reading 
>what you're trying to do...  and how you're going about it. 
>
>> what suppliers carry older motorola radio parts?
>
>No suppliers really, but there are at least 12 full size 
>battleship loads of surplus NOS Motorola Parts, which have 
>not yet made it to the recycler or landfill.  You're going 
>to have to do some flea markets (Like the Dayton Hamvention) 
>and a lot of searching around. 
>
>When you come back down to the real world, ask companies 
>like Comm-Spec if they have anything close in their crystal 
>filter retrofit kits. Otherwise it's not that hard to make 
>filters. 
>
>Life goes on... 
>skipp 
>
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: accepting recommendations

2006-05-07 Thread skipp025
> "us_communications1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good Afternoon Gentlemen,

just the above scares half of us away... 

> I am looking to build a hi-fi quality audio repeater to 
> feed audio for remote broadcasts of a non-commercial radio 
> station which has been greatly annoying, 

"greatly annoying"..?

You, the remote broadcasts or the fact that you're on a 
non commercial radio station?

> as I need a specific IF filter for a motorola receiver 
> a tu-540w and I have been unable to find the filter. 

You probably won't find a plug and play or drop in replacement 
filter.  But you need to be more specific...  do you want to 
do standard voice remotes as in typical short traffic reports?
... or do you want to do extended voice broadcasts with possible 
other source material added in.   The former is easily done 
with standard wideband fm radios, the other is more often done 
with wide bandwidths. 

> In addition, the chief engineer for the station has been 
> completely un-helpful. 

It's probably not something he's been required to do in past. 
And he may not be honestly interested in doing one now. 

> While I am not an amateur radio operator, I am building this 
> repeater for amateur radio use on the 144-148 mc band and the 
> engineer of the station claims he has an amateur radio license, 
> but i am beginning to have my doubts and the engineer has not 
> been supportive of building a hi-fi audio repeater. 

As wacky as your post reads, I'd also probably have doubts 
about helping you with a hi-fi audio repeater. "Hi-Fi" and 
"repeater" don't normally get used in the same sentence. You 
haven't been clear about what type of material (content) to 
be sent through this magic box. 

> how can i confirm if the engineer has a amateur radio 
> license? 

www.qrz.com   Would an Amateur License be required to build 
a repeater?   I wouldn't think so, although it would be handy. 

> is there a listing of engineers and what licenses they 
 have? 

God I hope not...  and no I don't think so. 

> i went through a lot of trouble to find the older tube 
> type equipment to build this hi-fi quality audio repeater 
> and want to make it work to serve the non-commercial fm 
> station. 

In the 144-148 MHz band?  Tube type equipment you think will 
have better audio than some of the newer stuff?  Some of the 
group readers are falling back over in their chairs reading 
what you're trying to do...  and how you're going about it. 

> what suppliers carry older motorola radio parts?

No suppliers really, but there are at least 12 full size 
battleship loads of surplus NOS Motorola Parts, which have 
not yet made it to the recycler or landfill.  You're going 
to have to do some flea markets (Like the Dayton Hamvention) 
and a lot of searching around. 

When you come back down to the real world, ask companies 
like Comm-Spec if they have anything close in their crystal 
filter retrofit kits. Otherwise it's not that hard to make 
filters. 

Life goes on... 
skipp 







 
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