Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-12 Thread Nate Duehr
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 At 2/11/2006 19:49, you wrote:
 Bob Dengler wrote:

 Where was their web police last FD when we had a simplex IRLP node 
 with a
 broken RX connected to a reflector TXing all day on 223.50  the reflector
 admin refused to disconnect it?  Quite a mess that was.
 Who did you contact Bob?
 
 Don't recall the call, but he was in Alaska.

Ah ok.

   I never saw an e-mail to any of the usual
 addresses asking for assistance with it, or the IRLP mailing list?
 
 I contacted him directly over the reflector by using another local node to 
 connect to the reflector.  I explained the situation to him  he responded 
 by saying he didn't know who I was  wasn't going to disconnect the node 
 even though it was out of control  causing local interference.

Bad call on his part, I guess.  In cases like that you can always 
escalate a bit... other Reflector owners might not want the project seen 
as unwilling to help out in the case of interference.

On the flip side, IRLP's not responsible for the operation of any ham's 
transmitter, and we can't hear what's going on at the node end.  You 
could have just been someone who had an axe to grind with some other 
local ham, and there's virtually no way for anyone operating a Reflector 
to have ANY idea what's really going on out there.

 FWIW, in part because of the above incident our local 220 MHz coordinator 
 is reviewing our local bandplan; I expect the new plan to explicitly state 
 where internet linking is allowed.

Which is EXACTLY where it should be handled.  At the local level.

Sounds like the outcome was the correct one.  And other coordination 
bodies should be learning and taking action also, to plan appropriately 
for similar issues instead of waiting to react to them.

Internet linking isn't exactly new at this point -- what, five years 
now?  That should be enough time for any coordination body to make up 
their minds on what they want to do with it in the local bandplans.

Nate WY0X






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-12 Thread Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator
Nate, Wy0X

Don't want to leave IRLP are bunch of old foggies.  IRLP is 
excellent system.  We have 3 or 4 here in Tampa area and many enjoy 
the operation.  However, some did get turned off when certain 
subjects came up.

We have a few Echolink stations also.  IRLP and Echolink are, in my 
opion, great for ham radio.  Some of my repeater users don't think 
so, but that is what make us.

73, ron, n9ee/r


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 Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator wrote:
  Chris,
  
  I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct.
  
  IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating
  connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion 
are
  discussed.
 
 Maybe one or two owners might act that way, but lumping all of the 
nice 
 folks that make up IRLP into your personal problem with someone, 
isn't fair.
 
 Besides, just like a repeater owner can choose who they want on 
their 
 repeaters, reflector owners can do the same thing.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-11 Thread Nate Duehr
Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator wrote:
 Chris,
 
 I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct.
 
 IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating
 connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are
 discussed.

Maybe one or two owners might act that way, but lumping all of the nice 
folks that make up IRLP into your personal problem with someone, isn't fair.

Besides, just like a repeater owner can choose who they want on their 
repeaters, reflector owners can do the same thing.

Nate WY0X




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-11 Thread Nate Duehr
Ken Arck wrote:
 At 09:30 AM 2/10/2006 -0500, you wrote:
 I thought one ran on Linux and one on Windows?  Would you have to use 
 two computers?
 
 ---There are a couple of ways to do this on one computer. One way would be
 to run WINE. Another is to run something called EchoIRLP:
 
 http://www.echoirlp.com/
 
 (of course, I also need to get a plug in for our RC210 Repeater Controller,
 which would work great for his application and certainly wouldn't break the
 bank - www.ah6le.net/arcom/rc210/rc210.html).

Or instead of struggling with Wine, something commercial like Vmware 
would work too.

Getting two operating systems to run at the same time on a single 
computer these days is trivial.  ;-)

Nate WY0X





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-11 Thread Nate Duehr
Bob Dengler wrote:

 Where was their web police last FD when we had a simplex IRLP node with a 
 broken RX connected to a reflector TXing all day on 223.50  the reflector 
 admin refused to disconnect it?  Quite a mess that was.

Who did you contact Bob?  I never saw an e-mail to any of the usual 
addresses asking for assistance with it, or the IRLP mailing list?

Nate WY0X




 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-10 Thread Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator
Chris,

I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct.

IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating
connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are
discussed.

Echolink is much more forgiving.  I have echolink on my 2 meter
repeater here in Tampa area and it is great system.

Interconnecting them would be good in some applications, but make sure
you get permission from the sysops.  I would think if your application
is emergency service related it would be acceptable, but have to talk
to them.

73, ron, n9ee/r

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   Is there a repeater controller that I could use to tie an Echolink 
 and IRLP together with? One that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-10 Thread Ronny Julian
I thought one ran on Linux and one on Windows?  Would you have to use 
two computers?


Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator wrote:

Chris,

I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct.

IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating
connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are
discussed.

Echolink is much more forgiving.  I have echolink on my 2 meter
repeater here in Tampa area and it is great system.

Interconnecting them would be good in some applications, but make sure
you get permission from the sysops.  I would think if your application
is emergency service related it would be acceptable, but have to talk
to them.

73, ron, n9ee/r

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  Is there a repeater controller that I could use to tie an Echolink 
and IRLP together with? One that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?


   Chris  KA7CJH













 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-10 Thread Ken Arck
At 09:30 AM 2/10/2006 -0500, you wrote:
I thought one ran on Linux and one on Windows?  Would you have to use 
two computers?

---There are a couple of ways to do this on one computer. One way would be
to run WINE. Another is to run something called EchoIRLP:

http://www.echoirlp.com/

(of course, I also need to get a plug in for our RC210 Repeater Controller,
which would work great for his application and certainly wouldn't break the
bank - www.ah6le.net/arcom/rc210/rc210.html).

Ken
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Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-10 Thread Bob Dengler
At 2/10/2006 06:15 AM, you wrote:
Chris,

I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct.

IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating
connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are
discussed.

Where was their web police last FD when we had a simplex IRLP node with a 
broken RX connected to a reflector TXing all day on 223.50  the reflector 
admin refused to disconnect it?  Quite a mess that was.

Bob NO6B






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-10 Thread Coy Hilton
First, If you have an IRLP node and an Echolink node and tie them 
togeather, so that Echolink can talk into the IRLP node then youre 
likely to get cut off the IRLP end they strictly say that you will not 
do that!, Now having said that there is a program called ECHOIRLP 
That will eather/or to beused from the same machine(computer  
repeater). IT runs on LINUX RED HAT FEDORA...I cant remember what 
version , but I think it was the last release. I run Echolink on my 
machine at Walt Disney World and have for about three years and I like 
it very much. Most of the people that I meet are great folks! 

As far as the controller well it depends on your setup. I have brouad 
band at home and shoot the Echolink to the repeater via RF link IT is 
simple. I use a simple NHRC2 Controller. They are not expensive ( a 
partial kit is around 40 bucks and is easy to build in an evening) and 
they work well and last a long time.

Good luck with your project and stay out of trouble
AC0Y   


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 and IRLP together with? One that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-10 Thread Coy Hilton
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 If you have an IRLP node you can easily install Echolink on it, 

NOT!!!


and then
 they'll both use the same hardware.
 
 Richard, N7TGB
 
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   Is there a repeater controller that I could use to tie an 
Echolink
 and IRLP together with? One that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

2006-02-10 Thread Coy Hilton
Actually EchoIRLP Does the BASIC things that Echolink does and most 
of the IRLP things BUT IT IS NOT ECHOLINK by any stretch. Echolink 
is one of the BEST programs for amateur radio to come down the pike 
in a while, bar none.

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wrote:

 There is a version of Echolink (called EchoIRLP) that runs on 
Linux.
 Installed on an IRLP box, EchoIRLP utilizes the same hardware and 
a few of
 IRLP's scripts.
 
 I have both running on my node.
 
 Richard, N7TGB
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:34 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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 Richard wrote:
 
  If you have an IRLP node you can easily install Echolink on it, 
and then
  they'll both use the same hardware.
 
  Richard, N7TGB
 
 Execpt IRLP runs in Linux and Echolink runs in windows...
 There is a bridge program out there, poke around the www.irlp.org 
site a
 bit.
 Or google.
 --
 Jim Barbour
 WD8CHL
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Controller Question

2005-03-30 Thread Paul Finch

I used to breadboard all my controllers using 2N3711, 2N3702 and 4066
bilateral switches, a capacitor for RC repeater tail and I had about 5 buck
and a couple hours in it installed.  Had plenty of surplus CW ID'ers and had
a repeater on-line for less than 40 bucks including radio and crystals.  I
now am using a MCC controller in both my repeaters but am looking seriously
at a NHRC, I have five repeaters to build in the next 6 months.

Paul


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Bob, if you really want to go low cost, you can wire a simple
transistor switch from the unsquelch indicator of one radio to the
PTT of the other and use one of the $8 K1EL CW ID chips to keep you
legal.

73, John, K9KA

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 What is a good controler to buy,All i want to do is use two radios
one
 for TX and other for RX and connect another radio for a remote
 base...I dont want phonepatch or voice id...just a cw id will
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