Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2/11/2006 19:49, you wrote: Bob Dengler wrote: Where was their web police last FD when we had a simplex IRLP node with a broken RX connected to a reflector TXing all day on 223.50 the reflector admin refused to disconnect it? Quite a mess that was. Who did you contact Bob? Don't recall the call, but he was in Alaska. Ah ok. I never saw an e-mail to any of the usual addresses asking for assistance with it, or the IRLP mailing list? I contacted him directly over the reflector by using another local node to connect to the reflector. I explained the situation to him he responded by saying he didn't know who I was wasn't going to disconnect the node even though it was out of control causing local interference. Bad call on his part, I guess. In cases like that you can always escalate a bit... other Reflector owners might not want the project seen as unwilling to help out in the case of interference. On the flip side, IRLP's not responsible for the operation of any ham's transmitter, and we can't hear what's going on at the node end. You could have just been someone who had an axe to grind with some other local ham, and there's virtually no way for anyone operating a Reflector to have ANY idea what's really going on out there. FWIW, in part because of the above incident our local 220 MHz coordinator is reviewing our local bandplan; I expect the new plan to explicitly state where internet linking is allowed. Which is EXACTLY where it should be handled. At the local level. Sounds like the outcome was the correct one. And other coordination bodies should be learning and taking action also, to plan appropriately for similar issues instead of waiting to react to them. Internet linking isn't exactly new at this point -- what, five years now? That should be enough time for any coordination body to make up their minds on what they want to do with it in the local bandplans. Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
Nate, Wy0X Don't want to leave IRLP are bunch of old foggies. IRLP is excellent system. We have 3 or 4 here in Tampa area and many enjoy the operation. However, some did get turned off when certain subjects came up. We have a few Echolink stations also. IRLP and Echolink are, in my opion, great for ham radio. Some of my repeater users don't think so, but that is what make us. 73, ron, n9ee/r --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator wrote: Chris, I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct. IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are discussed. Maybe one or two owners might act that way, but lumping all of the nice folks that make up IRLP into your personal problem with someone, isn't fair. Besides, just like a repeater owner can choose who they want on their repeaters, reflector owners can do the same thing. Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator wrote: Chris, I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct. IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are discussed. Maybe one or two owners might act that way, but lumping all of the nice folks that make up IRLP into your personal problem with someone, isn't fair. Besides, just like a repeater owner can choose who they want on their repeaters, reflector owners can do the same thing. Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
Ken Arck wrote: At 09:30 AM 2/10/2006 -0500, you wrote: I thought one ran on Linux and one on Windows? Would you have to use two computers? ---There are a couple of ways to do this on one computer. One way would be to run WINE. Another is to run something called EchoIRLP: http://www.echoirlp.com/ (of course, I also need to get a plug in for our RC210 Repeater Controller, which would work great for his application and certainly wouldn't break the bank - www.ah6le.net/arcom/rc210/rc210.html). Or instead of struggling with Wine, something commercial like Vmware would work too. Getting two operating systems to run at the same time on a single computer these days is trivial. ;-) Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
Bob Dengler wrote: Where was their web police last FD when we had a simplex IRLP node with a broken RX connected to a reflector TXing all day on 223.50 the reflector admin refused to disconnect it? Quite a mess that was. Who did you contact Bob? I never saw an e-mail to any of the usual addresses asking for assistance with it, or the IRLP mailing list? Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
Chris, I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct. IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are discussed. Echolink is much more forgiving. I have echolink on my 2 meter repeater here in Tampa area and it is great system. Interconnecting them would be good in some applications, but make sure you get permission from the sysops. I would think if your application is emergency service related it would be acceptable, but have to talk to them. 73, ron, n9ee/r --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a repeater controller that I could use to tie an Echolink and IRLP together with? One that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Chris KA7CJH Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
I thought one ran on Linux and one on Windows? Would you have to use two computers? Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator wrote: Chris, I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct. IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are discussed. Echolink is much more forgiving. I have echolink on my 2 meter repeater here in Tampa area and it is great system. Interconnecting them would be good in some applications, but make sure you get permission from the sysops. I would think if your application is emergency service related it would be acceptable, but have to talk to them. 73, ron, n9ee/r --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a repeater controller that I could use to tie an Echolink and IRLP together with? One that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Chris KA7CJH Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
At 09:30 AM 2/10/2006 -0500, you wrote: I thought one ran on Linux and one on Windows? Would you have to use two computers? ---There are a couple of ways to do this on one computer. One way would be to run WINE. Another is to run something called EchoIRLP: http://www.echoirlp.com/ (of course, I also need to get a plug in for our RC210 Repeater Controller, which would work great for his application and certainly wouldn't break the bank - www.ah6le.net/arcom/rc210/rc210.html). Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
At 2/10/2006 06:15 AM, you wrote: Chris, I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct. IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are discussed. Where was their web police last FD when we had a simplex IRLP node with a broken RX connected to a reflector TXing all day on 223.50 the reflector admin refused to disconnect it? Quite a mess that was. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
First, If you have an IRLP node and an Echolink node and tie them togeather, so that Echolink can talk into the IRLP node then youre likely to get cut off the IRLP end they strictly say that you will not do that!, Now having said that there is a program called ECHOIRLP That will eather/or to beused from the same machine(computer repeater). IT runs on LINUX RED HAT FEDORA...I cant remember what version , but I think it was the last release. I run Echolink on my machine at Walt Disney World and have for about three years and I like it very much. Most of the people that I meet are great folks! As far as the controller well it depends on your setup. I have brouad band at home and shoot the Echolink to the repeater via RF link IT is simple. I use a simple NHRC2 Controller. They are not expensive ( a partial kit is around 40 bucks and is easy to build in an evening) and they work well and last a long time. Good luck with your project and stay out of trouble AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a repeater controller that I could use to tie an Echolink and IRLP together with? One that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Chris KA7CJH Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have an IRLP node you can easily install Echolink on it, NOT!!! and then they'll both use the same hardware. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 7:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] controller question Is there a repeater controller that I could use to tie an Echolink and IRLP together with? One that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Chris KA7CJH Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question
Actually EchoIRLP Does the BASIC things that Echolink does and most of the IRLP things BUT IT IS NOT ECHOLINK by any stretch. Echolink is one of the BEST programs for amateur radio to come down the pike in a while, bar none. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a version of Echolink (called EchoIRLP) that runs on Linux. Installed on an IRLP box, EchoIRLP utilizes the same hardware and a few of IRLP's scripts. I have both running on my node. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:34 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] controller question Richard wrote: If you have an IRLP node you can easily install Echolink on it, and then they'll both use the same hardware. Richard, N7TGB Execpt IRLP runs in Linux and Echolink runs in windows... There is a bridge program out there, poke around the www.irlp.org site a bit. Or google. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Controller Question
I used to breadboard all my controllers using 2N3711, 2N3702 and 4066 bilateral switches, a capacitor for RC repeater tail and I had about 5 buck and a couple hours in it installed. Had plenty of surplus CW ID'ers and had a repeater on-line for less than 40 bucks including radio and crystals. I now am using a MCC controller in both my repeaters but am looking seriously at a NHRC, I have five repeaters to build in the next 6 months. Paul -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Controler Question Bob, if you really want to go low cost, you can wire a simple transistor switch from the unsquelch indicator of one radio to the PTT of the other and use one of the $8 K1EL CW ID chips to keep you legal. 73, John, K9KA --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a good controler to buy,All i want to do is use two radios one for TX and other for RX and connect another radio for a remote base...I dont want phonepatch or voice id...just a cw id will doBob/N2BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/