[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum UHF Repeater SCR Crowbar circuit activating during TX

2009-10-15 Thread Ed
Having problems with a SPECTRUM 4000 UHF repeater that the voltage regulation 
works ok on RX, but when you kick it into TX, the SCR fires and blows the fuse 
or frys the resistor.

This is the newer version power supply board that has the current limit control 
on it.

We replaced the SCR and .25 ohm dump resistor, and it still triggers.
I watched it trigger 2 times last night with a digital meter on the circuit and 
saw no overvoltage contition, at least not what the dmm registered.

Theory: Could a bad cap be letting RF back into the crowbar circuit, causing 
the SCR to trigger from the RF rather then DC?

Please Advise

Ed N3SDO




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum UHF Repeater SCR Crowbar circuit activating during TX

2009-10-15 Thread W9FS-Jerry
Could it be RF triggering the SCR?

Jerry W9FS
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ed 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:17 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum UHF Repeater SCR Crowbar circuit 
activating during TX


Having problems with a SPECTRUM 4000 UHF repeater that the voltage 
regulation works ok on RX, but when you kick it into TX, the SCR fires and 
blows the fuse or frys the resistor.

  This is the newer version power supply board that has the current limit 
control on it.

  We replaced the SCR and .25 ohm dump resistor, and it still triggers.
  I watched it trigger 2 times last night with a digital meter on the circuit 
and saw no overvoltage contition, at least not what the dmm registered.

  Theory: Could a bad cap be letting RF back into the crowbar circuit, causing 
the SCR to trigger from the RF rather then DC?

  Please Advise

  Ed N3SDO



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum UHF Repeater SCR Crowbar circuit activating during TX

2009-10-15 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
I had a similar problem with a home brew supply.
My fix was a choke (100 uHy)in series with the gate as close to the 
gate a possible.
I bypassed the choke on both sides with 0.01 uF capacitors with leads 
as short as possible.
This fixed my problem.
You are probably rectifying RF inside the SCR.
You might want to also bypass the anode of the SCR.
Spectrum never was real good with engineering.

YMMV

73
Glenn
WB4UIV


You might need to experiment with the values for the choke and capacitors.
At 10:17 AM 10/15/2009, you wrote:
Having problems with a SPECTRUM 4000 UHF repeater that the voltage 
regulation works ok on RX, but when you kick it into TX, the SCR 
fires and blows the fuse or frys the resistor.

This is the newer version power supply board that has the current 
limit control on it.

We replaced the SCR and .25 ohm dump resistor, and it still triggers.
I watched it trigger 2 times last night with a digital meter on the 
circuit and saw no overvoltage contition, at least not what the dmm registered.

Theory: Could a bad cap be letting RF back into the crowbar circuit, 
causing the SCR to trigger from the RF rather then DC?

Please Advise

Ed N3SDO








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