Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-12 Thread Joe Montierth

--- Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds good to me.  Figure up how much for shipping
 and how you want payment
 and will take it from there.  How hard is it to get
 it converted?  I have
 little to no knowlede about the motorola radios, so
 this is all new to me.
 
 Mathew
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a
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  --- Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Thanks Niel, actually I need a VHF exciter. 
 What I
   have is working, but
   would rather have something a little better
 built
   than the regency.
  
   Mathew
  
 
  I have several of the VHF Micor mobile 400mW
 exciters.
  You would have to interface power, ptt, audio, etc
 to
  the proper pins to make it play.
 
  Let me know if you want one, $15 plus shipping,
 I'll
  throw in a channel element in the 150-160 Mhz
 range.
 
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I was out of town yesterday. If you still want the
exciter I will ship it for $5. That would be $20
total.

Let me know, I accept Paypal, Visa, MC, or cash or
check.

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[Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread w9mwq
Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull all 
the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the 
transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the amp 
to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a 
half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I might 
run into.

Mathew






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:08 AM 6/11/2004 -, you wrote:
Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull all 
the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the 
transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the amp 
to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a 
half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I might 
run into.

---Several issues here that I can think of off the top of my head.
Frequency stability, spectral purity (or more precisely, lack thereof),
duty cycle. And that's just for starters :-)

IMHO, a bad idea from many different angles...

Ken
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Mathew Quaife

 At 12:08 AM 6/11/2004 -, you wrote:
 Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull all
 the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
 transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the amp
 to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a
 half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I might
 run into.

 ---Several issues here that I can think of off the top of my head.
 Frequency stability, spectral purity (or more precisely, lack thereof),
 duty cycle. And that's just for starters :-)

 IMHO, a bad idea from many different angles...

 Ken

I might agree on Frequency Stability, heat may be a problem, but as for duty
cycle, longest this repeater would ever be keyed up would be about an hour,
I'd say it should handle that and much longer at 1/2 watt.  Can say for the
puirty until it was keyed up for awhile.

Thanks.

Mathew



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Joe Montierth

--- w9mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Need some input on this, what others think.  I am
 trying to pull all 
 the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left
 is the 
 transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an
 exciter for the amp 
 to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I
 only need a 
 half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can
 think I might 
 run into.
 
 Mathew
 

You might be better off getting a commercial type
exciter. The Micor mobile or base exciter puts out
around .4 to .5 watts and might be a good choice to
look at. They are widely available, and lots of
literature about them. They also are continuous duty
rated, and you can probably pick one up for under $20
(you can get the whole radio for that much).

Joe




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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Stick with a Micor or Mastr II exciter. Cheap, and will work forever.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts 
Ideas



  At 12:08 AM 6/11/2004 -, you wrote:
  Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull all
  the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
  transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the amp
  to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a
  half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I might
  run into.
 
  ---Several issues here that I can think of off the top of my head.
  Frequency stability, spectral purity (or more precisely, lack thereof),
  duty cycle. And that's just for starters :-)
 
  IMHO, a bad idea from many different angles...
 
  Ken

 I might agree on Frequency Stability, heat may be a problem, but as for
duty
 cycle, longest this repeater would ever be keyed up would be about an
hour,
 I'd say it should handle that and much longer at 1/2 watt.  Can say for
the
 puirty until it was keyed up for awhile.

 Thanks.

 Mathew




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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Mathew Quaife
It's the hundred bucks they want to convert the Xtals, well that is what I
am told they cost to get converted.  I just want this thing to be rock solid
so that I don't have to do much with it except pay the electric bill.  So if
someone has an exciter that would work for cheap, let me know.

Mathew

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts 
Ideas


 Stick with a Micor or Mastr II exciter. Cheap, and will work forever.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV



 - Original Message -
 From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts 
 Ideas


 
   At 12:08 AM 6/11/2004 -, you wrote:
   Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull all
   the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
   transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the amp
   to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a
   half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I might
   run into.
  
   ---Several issues here that I can think of off the top of my head.
   Frequency stability, spectral purity (or more precisely, lack
thereof),
   duty cycle. And that's just for starters :-)
  
   IMHO, a bad idea from many different angles...
  
   Ken
 
  I might agree on Frequency Stability, heat may be a problem, but as for
 duty
  cycle, longest this repeater would ever be keyed up would be about an
 hour,
  I'd say it should handle that and much longer at 1/2 watt.  Can say for
 the
  puirty until it was keyed up for awhile.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Mathew
 
 
 
 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Mike WA6ILQ
At 12:08 AM 6/11/04 +, you wrote:

Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull all
the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the amp
to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a
half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I might
run into.

It's designed for a short duty cycle so it will get hot in minutes.
It's not frequency stable when it gets hot.
It will get dirty (spectrally) when it gets hot.

Do yourself a BIG favor and find a 25w UHF Micor mobile.  It's
rated for continuous duty and is EASY to convert.
Likewise a low power Mastr-II.

Or take a RCA 700 series UHF mobile radio.  Pull out the T-power
supply subchassis and the tube PA deck subchassis. Plug the
antenna relay connector into the exciter board  What you have left
is a 10w continuous duty radio.  The 700 series base station is just
as simple.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Neil McKie

  As he said before, Micor or Mastr II exciter. 

  Send in the Motorola Channel Element or GE Integrated Circuit 
 Oscillator Module (ICOM) and a few bucks and get it done correctly 
 the first time.  

  If you don't do it correctly the first time, you will eventually 
 and suffer until you do. 

  Been there - done that !!! 

  73, 

  Neil - WA6KLA 

Mathew Quaife wrote:
 
 It's the hundred bucks they want to convert the Xtals, well that 
 is what I am told they cost to get converted.  I just want this 
 thing to be rock solid so that I don't have to do much with it 
 except pay the electric bill.  So if someone has an exciter that 
 would work for cheap, let me know.
 
 Mathew
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts 
 Ideas
 
  Stick with a Micor or Mastr II exciter. Cheap, and will work forever.
 
  Chuck
  WB2EDV
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts 
  Ideas
 
 
  
At 12:08 AM 6/11/2004 -, you wrote:
Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull all
the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the amp
to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a
half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I might
run into.
   
---Several issues here that I can think of off the top of my head.
Frequency stability, spectral purity (or more precisely, lack
 thereof),
duty cycle. And that's just for starters :-)
   
IMHO, a bad idea from many different angles...
   
Ken
  
   I might agree on Frequency Stability, heat may be a problem, but as for
  duty
   cycle, longest this repeater would ever be keyed up would be about an
  hour,
   I'd say it should handle that and much longer at 1/2 watt.  Can say for
  the
   puirty until it was keyed up for awhile.
  
   Thanks.
  
   Mathew
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Jamey Wright
$79.95 for a 2C (2PPM) ICOM.  I have 2 at ICM now getting recrystalled.

Jamey
KD4SIY

-Original Message-
From: Mathew Quaife [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:02 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts
Ideas


They say ICM is the best of this, is this true?  Is that price about right
$100.00 per element.

Mathew

- Original Message -
From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts
Ideas



   As he said before, Micor or Mastr II exciter.

   Send in the Motorola Channel Element or GE Integrated Circuit
  Oscillator Module (ICOM) and a few bucks and get it done correctly
  the first time.

   If you don't do it correctly the first time, you will eventually
  and suffer until you do.

   Been there - done that !!!

   73,

   Neil - WA6KLA

 Mathew Quaife wrote:
 
  It's the hundred bucks they want to convert the Xtals, well that
  is what I am told they cost to get converted.  I just want this
  thing to be rock solid so that I don't have to do much with it
  except pay the electric bill.  So if someone has an exciter that
  would work for cheap, let me know.
 
  Mathew
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts

  Ideas
 
   Stick with a Micor or Mastr II exciter. Cheap, and will work forever.
  
   Chuck
   WB2EDV
  
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:27 PM
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -
Thoughts 
   Ideas
  
  
   
 At 12:08 AM 6/11/2004 -, you wrote:
 Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull
all
 the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
 transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the
amp
 to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a
 half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I
might
 run into.

 ---Several issues here that I can think of off the top of my
head.
 Frequency stability, spectral purity (or more precisely, lack
  thereof),
 duty cycle. And that's just for starters :-)

 IMHO, a bad idea from many different angles...

 Ken
   
I might agree on Frequency Stability, heat may be a problem, but as
for
   duty
cycle, longest this repeater would ever be keyed up would be about
an
   hour,
I'd say it should handle that and much longer at 1/2 watt.  Can say
for
   the
puirty until it was keyed up for awhile.
   
Thanks.
   
Mathew
   
   
   
   
  
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Mathew Quaife
They say ICM is the best of this, is this true?  Is that price about right
$100.00 per element.

Mathew

- Original Message -
From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts
Ideas



   As he said before, Micor or Mastr II exciter.

   Send in the Motorola Channel Element or GE Integrated Circuit
  Oscillator Module (ICOM) and a few bucks and get it done correctly
  the first time.

   If you don't do it correctly the first time, you will eventually
  and suffer until you do.

   Been there - done that !!!

   73,

   Neil - WA6KLA

 Mathew Quaife wrote:
 
  It's the hundred bucks they want to convert the Xtals, well that
  is what I am told they cost to get converted.  I just want this
  thing to be rock solid so that I don't have to do much with it
  except pay the electric bill.  So if someone has an exciter that
  would work for cheap, let me know.
 
  Mathew
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts

  Ideas
 
   Stick with a Micor or Mastr II exciter. Cheap, and will work forever.
  
   Chuck
   WB2EDV
  
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:27 PM
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -
Thoughts 
   Ideas
  
  
   
 At 12:08 AM 6/11/2004 -, you wrote:
 Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull
all
 the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
 transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the
amp
 to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a
 half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I
might
 run into.

 ---Several issues here that I can think of off the top of my
head.
 Frequency stability, spectral purity (or more precisely, lack
  thereof),
 duty cycle. And that's just for starters :-)

 IMHO, a bad idea from many different angles...

 Ken
   
I might agree on Frequency Stability, heat may be a problem, but as
for
   duty
cycle, longest this repeater would ever be keyed up would be about
an
   hour,
I'd say it should handle that and much longer at 1/2 watt.  Can say
for
   the
puirty until it was keyed up for awhile.
   
Thanks.
   
Mathew
   
   
   
   
  
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Mathew Quaife
That's not quite so bad.  Well I will just have to see what comes out of it.
All I need is something that puts out about 400 milliwatts to drive the amp.
I was just hoping to get rid of the regency stuff.

Mathew

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From: Jamey Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts
Ideas


 $79.95 for a 2C (2PPM) ICOM.  I have 2 at ICM now getting recrystalled.

 Jamey
 KD4SIY

 -Original Message-
 From: Mathew Quaife [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:02 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts
 Ideas


 They say ICM is the best of this, is this true?  Is that price about right
 $100.00 per element.

 Mathew

 - Original Message -
 From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts
 Ideas


 
As he said before, Micor or Mastr II exciter.
 
Send in the Motorola Channel Element or GE Integrated Circuit
   Oscillator Module (ICOM) and a few bucks and get it done correctly
   the first time.
 
If you don't do it correctly the first time, you will eventually
   and suffer until you do.
 
Been there - done that !!!
 
73,
 
Neil - WA6KLA
 
  Mathew Quaife wrote:
  
   It's the hundred bucks they want to convert the Xtals, well that
   is what I am told they cost to get converted.  I just want this
   thing to be rock solid so that I don't have to do much with it
   except pay the electric bill.  So if someone has an exciter that
   would work for cheap, let me know.
  
   Mathew
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:22 PM
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -
Thoughts
 
   Ideas
  
Stick with a Micor or Mastr II exciter. Cheap, and will work
forever.
   
Chuck
WB2EDV
   
   
   
- Original Message -
From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -
 Thoughts 
Ideas
   
   

  At 12:08 AM 6/11/2004 -, you wrote:
  Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to
pull
 all
  the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
  transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for
the
 amp
  to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need
a
  half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I
 might
  run into.
 
  ---Several issues here that I can think of off the top of my
 head.
  Frequency stability, spectral purity (or more precisely, lack
   thereof),
  duty cycle. And that's just for starters :-)
 
  IMHO, a bad idea from many different angles...
 
  Ken

 I might agree on Frequency Stability, heat may be a problem, but
as
 for
duty
 cycle, longest this repeater would ever be keyed up would be about
 an
hour,
 I'd say it should handle that and much longer at 1/2 watt.  Can
say
 for
the
 puirty until it was keyed up for awhile.

 Thanks.

 Mathew




   
  

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Neil McKie

  Re the RCA Series 700 mobile ... is completely solid state - I 
 used to service them and have one here.  

  The 700 makes a dandy repeater. 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


Mike WA6ILQ wrote:
 
 At 12:08 AM 6/11/04 +, you wrote:
 
 Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull all
 the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
 transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the amp
 to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a
 half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I might
 run into.
 
 It's designed for a short duty cycle so it will get hot in minutes.
 It's not frequency stable when it gets hot.
 It will get dirty (spectrally) when it gets hot.
 
 Do yourself a BIG favor and find a 25w UHF Micor mobile.  It's
 rated for continuous duty and is EASY to convert.
 Likewise a low power Mastr-II.
 
 Or take a RCA 700 series UHF mobile radio.  Pull out the T-power
 supply subchassis and the tube PA deck subchassis. Plug the
 antenna relay connector into the exciter board  What you have left
 is a 10w continuous duty radio.  The 700 series base station is just
 as simple.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Neil McKie

  Naw, the last time I did it was about $40 or so. 

  Neil 

Mathew Quaife wrote:
 
 They say ICM is the best of this, is this true?  Is that price 
 about right $100.00 per element. 
 
 Mathew
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts
 Ideas
 
 
As he said before, Micor or Mastr II exciter.
 
Send in the Motorola Channel Element or GE Integrated Circuit
   Oscillator Module (ICOM) and a few bucks and get it done correctly
   the first time.
 
If you don't do it correctly the first time, you will eventually
   and suffer until you do.
 
Been there - done that !!!
 
73,
 
Neil - WA6KLA
 
  Mathew Quaife wrote:
  
   It's the hundred bucks they want to convert the Xtals, well that
   is what I am told they cost to get converted.  I just want this
   thing to be rock solid so that I don't have to do much with it
   except pay the electric bill.  So if someone has an exciter that
   would work for cheap, let me know.
  
   Mathew
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:22 PM
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts
 
   Ideas
  
Stick with a Micor or Mastr II exciter. Cheap, and will work forever.
   
Chuck
WB2EDV
   
   
   
- Original Message -
From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -
 Thoughts 
Ideas
   
   

  At 12:08 AM 6/11/2004 -, you wrote:
  Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull
 all
  the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
  transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the
 amp
  to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a
  half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I
 might
  run into.
 
  ---Several issues here that I can think of off the top of my
 head.
  Frequency stability, spectral purity (or more precisely, lack
   thereof),
  duty cycle. And that's just for starters :-)
 
  IMHO, a bad idea from many different angles...
 
  Ken

 I might agree on Frequency Stability, heat may be a problem, but as
 for
duty
 cycle, longest this repeater would ever be keyed up would be about
 an
hour,
 I'd say it should handle that and much longer at 1/2 watt.  Can say
 for
the
 puirty until it was keyed up for awhile.

 Thanks.

 Mathew




   
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Mathew Quaife
Thanks Niel, actually I need a VHF exciter.  What I have is working, but
would rather have something a little better built than the regency.

Mathew

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From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -Thoughts 
Ideas



   Re the RCA Series 700 mobile ... is completely solid state - I
  used to service them and have one here.

   The 700 makes a dandy repeater.

   Neil - WA6KLA


 Mike WA6ILQ wrote:
 
  At 12:08 AM 6/11/04 +, you wrote:
 
  Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull all
  the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
  transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the amp
  to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need a
  half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I might
  run into.
 
  It's designed for a short duty cycle so it will get hot in minutes.
  It's not frequency stable when it gets hot.
  It will get dirty (spectrally) when it gets hot.
 
  Do yourself a BIG favor and find a 25w UHF Micor mobile.  It's
  rated for continuous duty and is EASY to convert.
  Likewise a low power Mastr-II.
 
  Or take a RCA 700 series UHF mobile radio.  Pull out the T-power
  supply subchassis and the tube PA deck subchassis. Plug the
  antenna relay connector into the exciter board  What you have left
  is a 10w continuous duty radio.  The 700 series base station is just
  as simple.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I did one for a UHF Micor about a year ago  it was about $40.

Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   Naw, the last time I did it was about $40 or so. 
 
   Neil 
 
 Mathew Quaife wrote:
  
  They say ICM is the best of this, is this true?  Is that price 
  about right $100.00 per element. 
  
  Mathew
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter - Thoughts
  Ideas
  
  
 As he said before, Micor or Mastr II exciter.
  
 Send in the Motorola Channel Element or GE Integrated Circuit
Oscillator Module (ICOM) and a few bucks and get it done correctly
the first time.
  
 If you don't do it correctly the first time, you will eventually
and suffer until you do.
  
 Been there - done that !!!
  
 73,
  
 Neil - WA6KLA
  
   Mathew Quaife wrote:
   
It's the hundred bucks they want to convert the Xtals, well that
is what I am told they cost to get converted.  I just want this
thing to be rock solid so that I don't have to do much with it
except pay the electric bill.  So if someone has an exciter that
would work for cheap, let me know.
   
Mathew
   
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -
Thoughts
  
Ideas
   
 Stick with a Micor or Mastr II exciter. Cheap, and will work
forever.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV



 - Original Message -
 From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -
  Thoughts 
 Ideas


 
   At 12:08 AM 6/11/2004 -, you wrote:
   Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to
pull
  all
   the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
   transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for
the
  amp
   to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only need
a
   half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think I
  might
   run into.
  
   ---Several issues here that I can think of off the top of my
  head.
   Frequency stability, spectral purity (or more precisely, lack
thereof),
   duty cycle. And that's just for starters :-)
  
   IMHO, a bad idea from many different angles...
  
   Ken
 
  I might agree on Frequency Stability, heat may be a problem, but
as
  for
 duty
  cycle, longest this repeater would ever be keyed up would be
about
  an
 hour,
  I'd say it should handle that and much longer at 1/2 watt.  Can
say
  for
 the
  puirty until it was keyed up for awhile.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Mathew
 
 
 
 

   
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Mathew Quaife
Sounds good to me.  Figure up how much for shipping and how you want payment
and will take it from there.  How hard is it to get it converted?  I have
little to no knowlede about the motorola radios, so this is all new to me.

Mathew

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -Thoughts 
Ideas



 --- Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks Niel, actually I need a VHF exciter.  What I
  have is working, but
  would rather have something a little better built
  than the regency.
 
  Mathew
 

 I have several of the VHF Micor mobile 400mW exciters.
 You would have to interface power, ptt, audio, etc to
 the proper pins to make it play.

 Let me know if you want one, $15 plus shipping, I'll
 throw in a channel element in the 150-160 Mhz range.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -Thoughts Ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Neil McKie

  Hello Mathew, 

  Knowing Regency, yes I was called upon to (attempt) to service one 
 once, *almost* anything in GE, RCA or Motorola or even a Bendix 
 mobile radio will be better. 

  When I mention Bendix, they made a certain mobile radio that, it 
 seemed, someone had borrowed (ok, swiped) ideas elsewhere.  The 
 tubed receiver almost looked like a Motorola Research Line receiver 
 strip.  The transmitter looked very similar to a GE Progress Line. 
 (I think I remember the power supply as being a regurgitated form of 
 an RCA?) 

  You may not know it, these days, in the mobile radio world, only 
 General Electric and Motorola seem to still stand out - at least in 
 the United states.  Over the years, there were a few others some of 
 us would really rather try to forget. 

  Even Motorola and General Electric had some clinkers that were ... 
 well let's say, not the best in reliability or really serviceable.  
 Each radio tech I have known over the years had his own less than 
 favorable product he had a slightly different name for.  ;) 

  I will relate this one story ... a certain manufacturer made a UHF 
 radio (the only one I ever saw was a base - but were made in a 
 mobile package too.)  The receiver ... took a 75 MHz range crystal  
 tubed oscillator / tripler (one stage) fed that signal to the diode 
 frequency doubler stage which was also the first mixer.  One stage of 
 RF amplification prior to the diode first mixer then into the IF 
 amplifier chain.  When everything was new, sensitivity was ... er, 
 ah, well, ok at best ... 

  I will leave this here ... at 4:30am 


  Neil 


Mathew Quaife wrote:
 
 Thanks Niel, actually I need a VHF exciter.  What I have is working, 
 but would rather have something a little better built than the 
 regency.
 
 Mathew
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using an HT for a Transmitter -Thoughts 
 Ideas
 

   Re the RCA Series 700 mobile ... is completely solid state - I
  used to service them and have one here.

   The 700 makes a dandy repeater.

   Neil - WA6KLA


 Mike WA6ILQ wrote:

 At 12:08 AM 6/11/04 +, you wrote:

Need some input on this, what others think.  I am trying to pull 
all the Regency stuff from the repeater, only thing left is the
transmitter.  I want to use a Yaesu FT-10R as an exciter for the 
amp to the repeater.  What are some thoughts on this.  I only 
need a half watt to drive the amp.  Any problems anyone can think 
I might run into.

 It's designed for a short duty cycle so it will get hot in minutes.
 It's not frequency stable when it gets hot.
 It will get dirty (spectrally) when it gets hot.

 Do yourself a BIG favor and find a 25w UHF Micor mobile.  It's
 rated for continuous duty and is EASY to convert.
 Likewise a low power Mastr-II.

 Or take a RCA 700 series UHF mobile radio.  Pull out the T-power
 supply subchassis and the tube PA deck subchassis. Plug the
 antenna relay connector into the exciter board  What you have 
 left is a 10w continuous duty radio.  The 700 series base station 
 is just as simple.

 Mike WA6ILQ







 
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