Re: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

2007-11-05 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
Hey, he said, while trying not to get any more egg on his face

I thought the formula was the quantity sqrt PF + sqrt PR divided by the 
quantity sqrt PF - sqrt PR .

Suppose you had 100 watts of forward and 4 watts of reflected.

Therefore 10 + 2 divided by 10 - 2 = 1.5

Your formula says  1.2 divided by 0.8 = 1.5

Well, I'll be darned !!!

de WD7F
John in Tucson



- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schafer 
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Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird


1 + square root (r/f)

SWR= _

 1 - square root (r/f)

 

where r = reflected power

 f = forward power

 

 

73

Gary  K4FMX

 

from: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
n9wys
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:07 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

 

Does anyone have a VSWR chart for the Bird wattmeter (preferably the 4410, 
since that’s what I have – but I’m not sure there would be any difference) that 
they would be willing to share with me?  I bought my meter used and it came 
with neither manual nor chart.

 

Thanks,
Mark – N9WYS


 





 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

2007-11-04 Thread Gary Schafer
1 + square root (r/f)

SWR= _

 1 - square root (r/f)

 

where r = reflected power

 f = forward power

 

 

73

Gary  K4FMX

 

from: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n9wys
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:07 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

 

Does anyone have a VSWR chart for the Bird wattmeter (preferably the 4410,
since that's what I have - but I'm not sure there would be any difference)
that they would be willing to share with me?  I bought my meter used and it
came with neither manual nor chart.

 

Thanks,
Mark - N9WYS

 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

2007-11-02 Thread n9wys
Chris,

 

Thanks to all the help here and at AR902Mhz, I have the manual now in PDF
for my meter.

 

Mark - N9WYS

 

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You need the complete Bird manual to learn how to use it right. It details
the cable lengths you will need for each band to make measurements as
accurately as possible.

 

Chris

N9LLO

 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

2007-11-02 Thread N9LLO
You need the complete Bird manual to learn how to use it right. It details  
the cable lengths you will need for each band to make measurements as  
accurately as possible.
 
Chris
N9LLO



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

2007-11-02 Thread n9wys
Hi, Jim.

I was thinking that was about right - but my electronics knowledge comes
*only* from the hobby and through self-education.  I'm not a tech by trade -
actually far from it  so sometimes things, simple as they may be for
some, are forgotten or have become blurred by the dreaded "CRS" disease.

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Jim

n9wys wrote:
> Thanks Bob, Nate, Alan and all...  I'm all set now!!
> 
> Mark - N9WYS

I'm not sure I understand the need. You do know that 10% reflected is 
very close to 2:1? From there, you can estimate.
I've never had one of those charts, and never needed one. And none of 
the other techs I've worked with over the years have either...

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

2007-11-02 Thread Jim
n9wys wrote:
> Thanks Bob, Nate, Alan and all...  I'm all set now!!
> 
> Mark - N9WYS

I'm not sure I understand the need. You do know that 10% reflected is 
very close to 2:1? From there, you can estimate.
I've never had one of those charts, and never needed one. And none of 
the other techs I've worked with over the years have either...

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL



RE: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

2007-10-31 Thread n9wys
Thanks Bob, Nate, Alan and all...  I'm all set now!!

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Bob M.
You can get the official manual, which includes the
chart (it's in most of their wattmeter manuals),
directly from Bird's web site. Just search for the
model number.

What else were you looking for that can be found so
easily?

Bob M.
== 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

2007-10-31 Thread Bob M.
You can get the official manual, which includes the
chart (it's in most of their wattmeter manuals),
directly from Bird's web site. Just search for the
model number.

What else were you looking for that can be found so
easily?

Bob M.
==
--- n9wys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone have a VSWR chart for the Bird wattmeter
> (preferably the 4410,
> since that's what I have - but I'm not sure there
> would be any difference)
> that they would be willing to share with me?  I
> bought my meter used and it
> came with neither manual nor chart.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark - N9WYS

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

2007-10-31 Thread Nate Bargmann
This isn't the genuine Bird version, but I keep it with mine that also
lacked a manual and nomograph when I got it some 16 years ago:

http://www.procom-dk.com/techinfo/e0202-swr-nomographs

73, de Nate >>

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[Repeater-Builder] VSWR Chart for Bird

2007-10-31 Thread n9wys
Does anyone have a VSWR chart for the Bird wattmeter (preferably the 4410,
since that's what I have - but I'm not sure there would be any difference)
that they would be willing to share with me?  I bought my meter used and it
came with neither manual nor chart.

 

Thanks,
Mark - N9WYS