[Repeater-Builder] Which coax cables to use with repeaters?

2007-06-07 Thread Howard Z.
I have read that one should use dual-shielded cables.

Which cables are these?

Is Belden 9913F7 a good choice?

Here is its description: http://www.therfc.com/9913f.htm







RE: [Repeater-Builder] Which coax cables to use with repeaters?

2007-06-07 Thread Jeff DePolo

I think this is, or should be, a repeater-builder FAQ. 

Foil+braid cables like 9913, LMR-series, etc. should generally NOT be used
in duplex environments.  Although a few may report results to the contrary,
braid-over-foil cables produce noise due to the dissimilar metal contact,
particularly as the cable ages/weathers.  As such, they should be avoided.

Double-silver-shield cables such as RG-142B/U or RG-400/U are RG58-sized
cables good for short runs at UHF and below.  Their use at 900 or above
should be kept to very short lengths and/or power levels under 100 watts due
to the losses involved.  RG-393 is slightly smaller in diameter than RG8 and
is constructed using dual silver braids like RG-142B/U and RG-400/U, so it
is good choice for longer runs and/or higher power levels.  RG214/U is also
a good choice except at very high power levels as, unlike the others cited
above, it has a solid polyethylene dielectric instead of teflon.  RG-223 is
a smaller version of RG-214, again with a double silver braid and poly
dielectric.  Be careful when ordering RG-214's.  There are commercial
grades of RG-214, as compared to mil-C17 types, which have bare copper
braids instead of silver plated.  Bare copper braids, even if
double-shielded, should be avoided for the same noise-generating reasons as
in the case with foil+braid cables.

Solid-shield cable such as Superflex-type Heliax (FSJ1-50A 1/4, FSJ2-50A
3/8, FSJ4-50B 1/2) is the best in terms of both loss-versus-size, lack of
duplex noise, and shielding properties.

Hope this helps.

--- Jeff

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 I have read that one should use dual-shielded cables.
 
 Which cables are these?
 
 Is Belden 9913F7 a good choice?
 
 Here is its description: http://www.therfc.com/9913f.htm
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Which coax cables to use with repeaters?

2007-06-07 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Use the best shielding possible between the RF equipment and the 
duplexer and from the duplexer to the antenna low loss is more important 
that sheilding.

Steve

Howard Z. wrote:
 I have read that one should use dual-shielded cables.

 Which cables are these?

 Is Belden 9913F7 a good choice?

 Here is its description: http://www.therfc.com/9913f.htm