[Repeater-Builder] no power out of duplexer

2010-09-06 Thread W3ML
Hi,

First, let me say that we are still new to the repeater business and learning 
as we go. This the first time in 30 ham years that I have been involved with a 
VHF repeater system.

 Our repeater was working okay at 80 watts out of GE Mastr II and 60 watts out 
of Duplexer. When I turn the power up to 100 out of radio and 80 out of 
duplexer it seemed to be working okay.

But, now a few hours later there is no power coming out of duplexer at all. 
Radio still shows power coming out.

Nothing was touch on the duplexer.  Any ideas?

73
John, W3ML



Re: [Repeater-Builder] no power out of duplexer

2010-09-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Sounds like a bad cable/connector. Are there any adaptors or elbows? They 
could be suspect.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: W3ML w...@arrl.net
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Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:37 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] no power out of duplexer


 Hi,

 First, let me say that we are still new to the repeater business and 
 learning as we go. This the first time in 30 ham years that I have been 
 involved with a VHF repeater system.

 Our repeater was working okay at 80 watts out of GE Mastr II and 60 watts 
 out of Duplexer. When I turn the power up to 100 out of radio and 80 out 
 of duplexer it seemed to be working okay.

 But, now a few hours later there is no power coming out of duplexer at 
 all. Radio still shows power coming out.

 Nothing was touch on the duplexer.  Any ideas?

 73
 John, W3ML
 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] no power out of duplexer

2010-09-06 Thread Joe
  What make and model is the duplexer?   I know of one instance that the 
loop inside the duplexer can come disconnected due to a bad solder 
joint, but can't remember what one it was.  A search on this list should 
find it, as it was discussed recently.

The first thing would be to check all connections for tightness.  Do not 
over-tighten the connections!  Just make sure that they are snug.  If 
your knuckles are turning white, your tightening too much.   N 
connectors need to be snug,  UHF connectors need to be a little tighter, 
but not cranked down tight, but not until they break.

What you can do is take the connecting cables off the transmit side cans 
and test the first one for power out.  Then connect the next can in 
series and see if there is output from that can.  This process should 
isolate the bad can(s).  Disconnect the receiver while doing this just 
to be safe.  MARK all the cables as to where they came from.  Do not mix 
them up.  It may be a bad cable, so if you find a problem make sure that 
it is not the interconnecting cable.  If all the cans and cables test 
OK, their may be a problem on the receive side of the duplexer.  Keep it 
simple, don't fool with the cans unless you prove that one is bad.

This process is to eliminate the obvious before you go tinkering with 
the duplexer.  Check the tightness of connections first, cables second, 
and lastly the cans.  The process above will help you isolate the bad 
can so you hopefully only have to tinker with one can.

The real fix would involve some test equipment.  What do you have 
available?  Service monitor, tracking generator?

Others will probably have some good suggestions, these ideas are just 
off the top of my head.

On 9/6/2010 9:37 AM, W3ML wrote:
 Hi,

 First, let me say that we are still new to the repeater business and learning 
 as we go. This the first time in 30 ham years that I have been involved with 
 a VHF repeater system.

   Our repeater was working okay at 80 watts out of GE Mastr II and 60 watts 
 out of Duplexer. When I turn the power up to 100 out of radio and 80 out of 
 duplexer it seemed to be working okay.

 But, now a few hours later there is no power coming out of duplexer at all. 
 Radio still shows power coming out.

 Nothing was touch on the duplexer.  Any ideas?

 73
 John, W3ML