Re: [Repeater-Builder] preamp question

2004-10-20 Thread Mark Holman

I would say as long as you do not have any future neighbor Transmitter
sites. I would at least do a research by getting ahold of someone who may be
a frequency coordinator for commercial as well broadcast services they are
more in tune of whats happening and find out any future talks of springing a
stick over by your site.

If you don't need to tune out something thats not there, then you are in
business.

MH
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] preamp question


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> only a 6-cavity notch duplexer (Cellwave)?  I know that this makes
> the receiver susceptable to desense from other interference, but my
> site is so extremely remote that my only concern is just keeping my
> own Tx out.  I was just wondering if for an extremely quiet site, a
> bandpass filter between the notches and the preamp is worth the added
> insertion loss.
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> Dayne Olmstead
> KD7JAH
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] preamp question

2004-10-19 Thread Eric Lemmon

Dayne,

You are thinking along the right line about keeping your own transmitter
signal out of your preamp, but please don't forget that Mother Nature is
also out there, and she is generating a great deal of noise.

Chip Angle, the boss of Angle Linear preamplifiers, has written some
extremely informative papers on the correct use of preamps.  Here's one:

http://www.anglelinear.com/repeaters/repeaters.html

If your receive system is properly designed, you probably don't need a
preamp.  However, if you decide to add a preamp, it may be a good idea
to put a bandpass cavity or two in front of the preamp, and follow the
preamp with an appropriate attenuator to limit the gain to a reasonable
value.  One of the valuable tidbits of information on the topic is that
two bandpass cavities set for 0.5 dB loss in series are almost always
better than one bandpass cavity set for 1.0 dB loss.

As has been mentioned many times on this list, a bandpass/bandreject
duplexer (the most common type used on Amateur repeaters) has very
little bandpass effect, so a true bandpass cavity in the receive chain
often makes a profound difference in the operation of a receive
preamplifier.  A notch-only duplexer such as you describe, has
essentially NO bandpass filtering, and is vulnerable to interference.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

stanleyradio wrote:
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> Does anyone ever consider using a preamp (ARR GaAsFET) on 440 with only a 
> 6-cavity notch duplexer (Celwave)?  I know that this makes the receiver 
> susceptable to desense from other interference, but my
> site is so extremely remote that my only concern is just keeping my own Tx 
> out.  I was just wondering if for an extremely quiet site, a bandpass filter 
> between the notches and the preamp is worth the added
> insertion loss.




 
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[Repeater-Builder] preamp question

2004-10-18 Thread stanleyradio


Does anyone ever consider using a preamp (ARR GaAsFET) on 440 with 
only a 6-cavity notch duplexer (Cellwave)?  I know that this makes 
the receiver susceptable to desense from other interference, but my 
site is so extremely remote that my only concern is just keeping my 
own Tx out.  I was just wondering if for an extremely quiet site, a 
bandpass filter between the notches and the preamp is worth the added 
insertion loss.

Thanks,
Dayne Olmstead
KD7JAH







 
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