[Repeater-Builder] wp-639 rexolite

2009-07-19 Thread hbbcara

Hi again,



In my first post I miswrote a thing or two and much confusion as to my
question ensued.  Hopefully I've written this more clearly.  Thank
you to all who responded to my earlier question and my apologies for
wasting your time by having you answer the wrong question.



I have a wp-639.  I'm its at least third owner and don't know
its previous history.  It's got a factory sticker marked 146.97 /
37.  I don't know anyone who currently has the correct equipment
locally and I don't have the budget to take it to a radio shop so
I've used alternate methods of tuning similar to mentioned on the
repeater builder website.  I've gotten it tuned to work OK with my
repeater on 146.88 / 28 but I'm guessing it could be better.



In tuning the pass adjustments, there was a definite sweet
spot.  Go a quarter or a third of a turn off of that and there was
a definite difference.  But I didn't find that sweet spot
in tuning the reject and I wonder how wide of an adjustment it usually
is.  What I mean is, for example the pass tuning went from not very
good to good to not as good within about one
turn of the knob.  In tuning the reject, should I be looking for that
pattern while moving the rexolite over an inch of travel, a half-inch,
two inches or ?



So my question is not how to tune it but as I tune it, how much should I
expect to have to move the rexolite rods to notice the not good
– good – not good pattern? Or will it even be there?



I suppose the question is only to those who have tuned a wp-639 for a
standard 600kc split. Someone who hasn't tuned a `639 will be
basing their answer on a comparison to something they have tuned, which
may not be all that comparable.



For the sake of brevity I won't post the method I used to tune it
unless someone wants to know it.



Again, thanks to those who answered earlier and thanks in advance any
who answer this.



rj



Re: [Repeater-Builder] wp-639 rexolite

2009-07-19 Thread Gary Hoff
I have in face tuned a WP-639 and would guess for that freq swing from
146.97 to 146.88 it will be very little movement of the rod assuming the
pass tuning is correct. Remember, the rexolite rod is tuning the notch 
and that
notch is relative to the pass setting of the invar rod. It is extremely 
sharp and
has to be moved only very slightly to find the deepest part of the 
notch. Tune your
generator (HT) to the notch frequency (.28) and feed it through the 
hi-pass section
of the duplexer and tune for the null. Be careful that you don't 
mistakenly tune the
low-pass section of the duplexer to pass the high frequency because 
sometimes
you can find a null but not the right one. I would tune it for you for 
nothing but I have
no Idea where you are located and I'm sure there are others who would 
also if you
would give a location so someone could respond.
Gary - K7NEY

hbbcara wrote:

 Hi again,

 In my first post I miswrote a thing or two and much confusion as to my 
 question ensued. Hopefully I've written this more clearly. Thank you 
 to all who responded to my earlier question and my apologies for 
 wasting your time by having you answer the wrong question.

 I have a wp-639. I'm its at least third owner and don't know its 
 previous history. It's got a factory sticker marked 146.97 / 37. I 
 don't know anyone who currently has the correct equipment locally and 
 I don't have the budget to take it to a radio shop so I've used 
 alternate methods of tuning similar to mentioned on the repeater 
 builder website. I've gotten it tuned to work OK with my repeater on 
 146.88 / 28 but I'm guessing it could be better.

 In tuning the pass adjustments, there was a definite sweet spot. Go 
 a quarter or a third of a turn off of that and there was a definite 
 difference. But I didn't find that sweet spot in tuning the reject 
 and I wonder how wide of an adjustment it usually is. What I mean is, 
 for example the pass tuning went from not very good to good to 
 not as good within about one turn of the knob. In tuning the reject, 
 should I be looking for that pattern while moving the rexolite over an 
 inch of travel, a half-inch, two inches or ?

 So my question is not how to tune it but as I tune it, how much should 
 I expect to have to move the rexolite rods to notice the not good – 
 good – not good pattern? Or will it even be there?

 I suppose the question is only to those who have tuned a wp-639 for a 
 standard 600kc split. Someone who hasn't tuned a `639 will be basing 
 their answer on a comparison to something they have tuned, which may 
 not be all that comparable.

 For the sake of brevity I won't post the method I used to tune it 
 unless someone wants to know it.

 Again, thanks to those who answered earlier and thanks in advance any 
 who answer this.

 rj

 






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