If you want the exact freq why dont you just ask Mike who posted it (K7PFJ) Pretty much all the simplex band plans for two that I have seen are the same anyway and ALL of them in the US recongnize 52 as the National Simplex freq. I may have missed one or two out there that may be different, nevertheless I have no reason to think that Mike was lying when he posted this item since he has local knowledge of the issue. SO I dont call it an assumption. I am sure MIke will probably respond to this anyway.
G. -----Original Message----- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 6:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [Repeater-Builder] RAIN Report: D-STAR Repeater Trustee, K6BIV, Responds to NFCC Letter to the FCC It depends where the simplex channels are. What some people call simplex channels in the 146-147 MHz part of the band are repeater channels in the ARRL bandplan (and have been for decades). Just look in any ARRL Repeater Directory. So before you go assuming things, let's hear the exact frequencies. Joe M. Glenn Shaw wrote: > > How does he have a repeater on the simplex channels and not get an > enforcement letter. Really bad practice, > > Glenn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Mike > Mullarkey > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:43 AM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Repeater-Builder] RAIN Report: D-STAR Repeater > Trustee, K6BIV, Responds to NFCC Letter to the FCC > > Hi John, > > > > I could expect a reply like this from you. You are the only one in > Oregon that has an odd split both working in the simplex band. For a > person that is in the broadcast business, that has spent many years on > the coordinating council you would know better. Why don't you do like > I told you several years ago and send in paperwork on the channel I > told you that would work, hell it has not seen ac power for over five > years and its free for the taking. Hum, sounds to easy for me. If you > do not remember the conversation, I could refresh your memory if you > would like. On the other hand, just let the other people in the > Portland, Oregon area coordinate it. They will probably put a good > repeater up, work by the rules, and maintain the repeater the proper way a repeater should be operated. > > > > Mike Mullarkey (K7PFJ) > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:37 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RAIN Report: D-STAR Repeater Trustee, > K6BIV, Responds to NFCC Letter to the FCC > > > > I thank Tim for what he has done. I'll be installing 100 mS Digital > Voice Delay boards in all my repeaters so that they are no longer > repeaters and can now all go into the expermintal band. > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:55:08 PM CDT > From: Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nate%40natetech.com> > <mailto:nate%40natetech.com> > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RAIN Report: D-STAR Repeater Trustee, > K6BIV, Responds to NFCC Letter to the FCC > > > Jay Urish wrote: > > > Another guy with an 'expert' buddy saying D-Star IS NOT a repeater.. > > > Never mind the fact that Icom says its a repeater and as you > > > transmit on one frequency, your voice comes out of another..Oh > > > yea, delay is irrelevant.. > > > > That's not fair to the content of the interview. > > > > Tim points out that his "expert buddy" convinced not only Tim, but > > the FCC, specifically Bill Cross, in 2006, that it was NOT a repeater. > > > > Tim did the "right thing" in 2006 and ASKED. And was told, "Not a > > repeater. Go ahead." BY THE FCC. > > > > I'm still in the camp that says if it behaves like a repeater, and > > it needs the same type of protection as a repeater (fixed frequency > > service > > -- even Tim admits he "wanted a coordination" in the interview), > > it's a repeater. So it should be in the repeater sub-band. > > > > But I also know Tim a little bit -- and just stating that he's just > > a guy with a "expert buddy" pushing an agenda is blatantly unfair > > and doesn't cover what the interview really says. > > > > People should listen to the interview, and not go by what the peanut > > gallery is saying, I think. > > > > What the interview REALLY says is that Tim ASKED for permission from > > the FCC, and GOT it. He also DOCUMENTED that fact. He has dates and > e-mails. > > > > And only THEN did he put his repeater up on 145.61 in Northern California. > > > > No one could ask anything more of him than that! > > > > Now his system is in the cross-hairs of a national debate, about > > "letting D-Star out" of the repeater sub-bands... and meanwhile he's > > been on the air for almost two years without problems. > > > > I could see why he'd be a bit concerned. Hell, I'd have a pretty big > > beef with that too, if I'd been the "pioneer" and had: > > > > Asked the FCC... GOT PERMISSION... and then found myself sitting > > under the cross-hairs of the rest of the country. > > > > Ouch. > > > > Tim's not one of the "bad guys" out there. I've talked to him on the > > phone (for IRLP support purposes a couple of years ago) and met him > > in person at the IRLP convention (I think in 2005?). > > > > I don't think he would have put his system on VHF on the air without > > doing EXACTLY the right thing... and in 2006, he's claiming that he did. > > > > Additionally he mentioned in the interview -- that one of the > > reasons the pendulum swung away from allowing D-Star outside the > > repeater sub-bands, was that there's a worry that SOME idiot would > > claim their ANALOG system with a digital-audio-delay board wasn't > > transmitting "simultaneously" and should also be allowed out of the repeater sub-band. > > > > That's a serious concern of some folks, and while Tim says "he's > > never heard of anyone trying to do it", it doesn't mean someone > > desperate for a VHF pair won't try... > > > > Tim's comments about "where do we put it" falls on deaf ears here, > > though -- if they can't find an analog system willing to come off > > the air to accommodate the new digital system... tough. Don't put it up VHF. > > > > But since he ASKED if he could... and the only authority that counts > > said, "Yes"... I can see why he's not happy now that they might > > reverse themselves. > > > > He might even have a pretty good case for a lawsuit, if it came to that. > > > > Nate WY0X > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1067 - Release Date: > 10/12/2007 > 6:02 PM > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1067 - Release Date: 10/12/2007 6:02 PM
