RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 mhz repeater isolator
Tom, Check out Telewave's products. I recently put up a Hamtronics repeater on 220, and I installed a Telewave T-2230 single isolator on the transmitter primarily to protect the 18 watt PA transistor. The very basic Hamtronics PA has no protection whatsoever from high SWR or load mismatches, and it also has no power control circuitry; its power output varies directly with the supply voltage, and it is easy to toast the PA transistor. Visit Telewave here: www.telewave.com/pdf/TWDS-4011.pdf Although an isolator is good insurance against IM, it also serves to protect fragile PA transistors from an early demise. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 MHz repeater isolator Anyone know a source for one please? 73s NB2A Tom
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Do your really build repeaters? Converting a GE or Motorola is not building. Is it? I have done my share of Master twos and Micores but I did not build them. Just moved them into the Ham bands and maybe duplexed them but I did not build them. Motorola or GE built them. I did move a Johnson or two as well. So before you get up on that soap box that you are building a repeater think about it. You are not building a repeater you are buying an old GE or Motorola that some one else built and adding to it. Or moving it into the Ham bands. Just my two cents. Converting is not building! Very best and a good Easter week end to all. I will be away so I will not even get to see the flames from folks saying they build Motorola or GE radio's you are only kidding each outer. 73 Russ, W3CH, - Original Message - From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Perhaps the repeater buyers would like to start a Repeater-Buyers group and leave the technical challenges to real repeater builders. Dex Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Well Russ taking modules and putting them into a system so that they function in a proper way is a form of building. So Russ are you just an ass and does it come naturally or do you have to work at it? Mike/K1EG - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Do your really build repeaters? Converting a GE or Motorola is not building. Is it? I have done my share of Master twos and Micores but I did not build them. Just moved them into the Ham bands and maybe duplexed them but I did not build them. Motorola or GE built them. I did move a Johnson or two as well. So before you get up on that soap box that you are building a repeater think about it. You are not building a repeater you are buying an old GE or Motorola that some one else built and adding to it. Or moving it into the Ham bands. Just my two cents. Converting is not building! Very best and a good Easter week end to all. I will be away so I will not even get to see the flames from folks saying they build Motorola or GE radio's you are only kidding each outer. 73 Russ, W3CH, - Original Message - From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Perhaps the repeater buyers would like to start a Repeater-Buyers group and leave the technical challenges to real repeater builders. Dex Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
In reverse order: russ wrote: I will be away so I will not even get to see the flames from folks saying they build Motorola or GE radio's you are only kidding each outer. OH, so you going to slam to the table some BS about people that convert commercial radios to 220 or any other band isn't really 'building' a repeater, and then not stay around for the fireworks? In the end, it won't matter. russ wrote: Do your really build repeaters? Converting a GE or Motorola is not building. Is it? Properly converting a commercial radio to the ham band is difficult, in many cases just as difficult as building a Hamtronics kit. I have done my share of Master twos and Micores but I did not build them. That would be Mastr II's and Micor's. Just moved them into the Ham bands and maybe duplexed them but I did not build them. Motorola or GE built them. Well, if you ever built any kits from Heathkit or Hamtronics or whoever, I guess then you really didn't build them either because you bought the kit of parts from somewhere else. Since you didn't build the parts, I guess you didn't assemble it into a working unit. Just because you didn't assemble the whole radio set doesn't mean you aren't building a repeater. So before you get up on that soap box that you are building a repeater think about it. You are not building a repeater you are buying an old GE or Motorola that some one else built and adding to it. Or moving it into the Ham bands. I have thought about it and you know what? The folks on this list no longer need you Russ. I have tried to be very objective in considering your posts, but when you tell me that I'm really not building a repeater when it takes me several days to properly convert a Motorola Micor to 222, I need to draw the line. Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Kevin Custer wrote: Properly converting a commercial radio to the ham band is difficult, in many cases just as difficult as building a Hamtronics kit. Probably moreso, since the kit stuff has an instruction sheet to tell you what to put where. When I build a repeater, it's all about taking something that was designed for one purpose and making it do something else. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Mike,
Russ is pointing out that you are NOT building a repeater
makes him an ass? We put repeaters together every
day here at work. But we do not build them.
Kenwood, Johnson, Midland and Motorola build them.
We just rack them up program and test them before
we install them. Yes even Ham stuff. Do we build them?
No we do not. So he is an ASS? Do you build repeaters?
Rack and stack is not building them!
Dean Westbrook,
He's an ass for being abusive. He's an ass for constantly and forcefully
pushing his viewpoint, to the point of starting arguements. On usenet,
he would be called a 'troll', someone who posts statements just to start
an arguement ('flamewar').
And now so are you.
plonk
--
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Well Dean since you seem to need to shout every time you post here I hope this is large enough for you to read! Building is a state of mind! Even if it means you use blocks to put it together. For an educated person as you so blatantly flaunt after your name you seem to have forgotten the basics of the English language. Let me refresh you with English 101. As stated in the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:Webster Dictionarynaryam-Webster DictionaryMain Entry: 1build Pronunciation: 'bildFunction: verbInflected Form(s): built /'bilt/; build·ingEtymology: Middle English bilden, from Old English byldan; akin to Old English buan to dwell -- more at BOWERtransitive senses1 : to form by ordering and uniting materials by gradual means into a composite whole : CONSTRUCT2 : to cause to be constructed3 : to develop according to a systematic plan, by a definite process, or on a particular base4 : INCREASE, ENLARGEintransitive senses1 : to engage in building2 a : to progress toward a peak (as of intensity) build to a climax b : to develop in extent a crowd building- build a fire under : to stimulate to vigorous action- build into : to make an integral part of build quality into the product- build on : to use as a foundation building on past experience So based on that and other sources I could quote, Yes we build repeaters. So being that I guess that puts you in the ass category as well, albeit a so called educated one that has to flaunt alphabet soup. Mike/K1EG (Even King George should be able to read this.) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hey Mike, Russ is pointing out that you are NOT building a repeater makes him an "ass"? We put repeaters together every day here at work. But we do not build them. Kenwood, Johnson, Midland and Motorola build them. We just rack them up program and test them before we install them. Yes even Ham stuff. Do we build them? No we do not. So he is an "ASS"? Do you build repeaters? Rack and stack is not building them! Dean Westbrook, Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
What is Building? How do you define Building? I have built repeaters from several sources. 1. Using a single mobile radio and converting to full duplex. 2. Using 2 mobile radios without conversion. 3. Using 2 handheld radios without conversion and a mobile PA. 4. Using a single base station and converting to full duplex. 5. Designing equipment from scratch to put on the air I consider all of these building a repeater. The only instance that might qualify for not building it would be my Icom RP-3010 and a Standard RPT-11 which were factory built repeaters or what we call Pre-Mods in the computer overclocking industry. And some modification was still required to interface the repeaters to the controllers. On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:01:18 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what I though you don't build any thing! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Jim you have to shout for Dean to see it!! And for the record I like Kellog's Mike/K1EG - Original Message - From: "Jim B." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jim, What bran name do you call the repeater you build? Not convert but build? Dean, bran? would that be Post or Kellog's? -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Jon that would be nice but as long as you have people like Russ and Dean this won't happen IMHO. Mike/K1EG - Original Message - From: KD5SFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater This quibbling, finger pointing, name calling, generally acting like children is really getting old. I am in the group to learn about repeaters, repeater installations, commercial, ham, converted, kits, factory built, problems and resolutions, etc. I ask for the moderator to kill the thread and let's get back to the topic of the group. 73, Jon KD5SFA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Food for thought. I have watch this group grow out of control due to ones personal view point. Hams who have the ability to modify, repair or build equipment out way the others. Each of us have are strong areas which we are good at and we leave things we dont know enough about to others that can. Therefore; buying new equipment and placing it into service is easy but how much did we learn about it, what just pushing a few buttons, maybe some type of programming and tweaking a few knobs or pots. There is a good side to having access to this old equipment that is pulled from service, hams may get to do what they what with the equipment, the equipment doesn't end up in a land fill site, and we learn something by working with the equipment and making it do better than what its intended use. To each there own, we still put something into service and it works, but the ham that can repair the equipment will out way the others who cannot when a real problem arises. Buying cheap radios can be fun to put in service but there is real satisfaction from this achievement of the term building. So whats with all the flame wars here?? We are all here to learn something from one another in this form, and personal view points should be weighed individually and should be not taken to heart.. get over it... Damn can't we just get along? GOOD Friday Va3kmc Keith Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Hey Danny, Like Jed said e-mail me off list direct. [EMAIL PROTECTED] they start around $700 new a think. But I would have to look at there price sheet. But e-mail me direct. 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Danny R. Goodrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Russ, So whats the cost of this type of repeater? I know its only money ,but I still like to keep most of it at home.. Danny - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hey John, No drum! Just a fine product! Lots of us on here Buy them, Like them and use them. We have all heard enough from you! If you have nothing positive to say be quite. Russ, W3CH. - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater oh no, the Maggoire drum beating of Russ starting again. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:53:47 PM CST From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Danny, You can't beat the new Maggiore repeaters for 222MHz! I have a pile of them on the air and they just run and run! Can't beat there new receiver on 222! Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used Thanks, Danny Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Good morning all, We sell the Maggiore and when you team it up with an Arcom 210 controller you can't beat the audio. They work very well from what I have seen. We never get them back for repair. This is bad for us as we have a repair business. Maggiore has a nice web site you can go visit and look around. http://www.hiprorepeaters.com I think they have info on all there stuff on there web page. You can go look for your self what they have to offer. Enjoy. You are all ways better trying to buy new if you can. Much cheaper in the long run. Set it and forget it as they say. 73, Dean Westbrook, EE,PE. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
russ wrote: I use Maggiore and for 220 MHz what else would any one in there right mind use. One of my 220 Micor conversions Same great taste, less filling, and hears like a angry momma. You get the famous Micor Squelch too... Custom built and wired to plug into your controller for about $100 less than the competitors. http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/micor220conversion.html Specifications of Repeater Builder Micor 220: Sensitivity- -122 to -124 dBm for 12 dB SINAD with optional preamp -116 dBm for 12 dB SINAD basic sensitivity (-118 typical) Remember now, this is a receiver with 5 large helical resonators in the front end. Power- 25 watts continuous (30 watts typical) Adjustable from 10W to max. power for driving add on amp Micor power leveling and VSWR protection still works Crystals 2 PPM Temp Comp elements are available (extra) For those who need to convert their specs to ours: http://www.repeater-builder.com/pdf/dbm-to-microvolts.pdf Comments welcome... Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are all ways better trying to buy new if you can. Much cheaper in the long run. Set it and forget it as they say. I have many repeaters that I have built from used equipment for myself and others. I feel these have been much cheaper to establish and maintain than new. I also have bought new repeaters from Kendecom, Spectrum, and others. I have had much more trouble with them than converted (or not) commercial gear. The new is gone the minute you unbox the repeater. (everyone drives a used car) Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Kevin, I say your correct here, I have never bought a "new" repeater. I fell into a great deal, a friend in the two way business GAVE me 4 new in the box Kenwood TKR-850 repeaters. Really good friend, worked for his Dad in the two way industry for a long time but till then I always built my own repeaters out of junk. That is the fun part of Ham radio. By the way, to keep the coordination on a 440 frequency I put one of the Kenwood's on-line on a temporary basis till I get time to build one out of junk. The Kenwood's are going in service on my tower as a commercial trunk system. Withthe Kenwoodnow running I still havetwo Ham repeaters built from Johnson mobile radios, they have been running for more than 7 years with no problems. I have a GE Mastr II repeater set up (almost complete) on the 2 meter frequency but as long as the Johnson's are running I can't see putting the time, what little I have, into finishing it! Paul -Original Message-From: Kevin Custer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:25 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are all ways better trying to buy new if you can. Much cheaper in the long run. Set it and forget it as they say.I have many repeaters that I have built from used equipment for myself and others. I feel these have been much cheaper to establish and maintain than new.I also have bought new repeaters from Kendecom, Spectrum, and others.I have had much more trouble with them than converted (or not) commercial gear.The new is gone the minute you unbox the repeater. (everyone drives a used car)Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Danny R. Goodrum wrote: Russ, So whats the cost of this type of repeater? I know its only money ,but I still like to keep most of it at home.. Danny I think we should really ignore this russ guy. I plonked him, I just wish everybody else would too. We have all heard enough from you! If you have nothing positive to say be quite. Russ, W3CH. quiet, not quite|cP -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Kevin Custer wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are all ways better trying to buy new if you can. Much cheaper in the long run. Set it and forget it as they say. I have many repeaters that I have built from used equipment for myself and others. I feel these have been much cheaper to establish and maintain than new. I also have bought new repeaters from Kendecom, Spectrum, and others. I have had much more trouble with them than converted (or not) commercial gear. The new is gone the minute you unbox the repeater. (everyone drives a used car) Kevin Custer Kevin is correct. Buying new is NOT always the way to go. What would you rather own, a brand new Yugo, or a 10 year old McLaren F1 Indy? Or a 10 year old Rolls maybe? The made-for-amateur stuff needs to be 'babysat' constantly, while the Motorola and GE stuff just runs. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Hello All, I do not know about some of the bands that are posted. I do know that with Kenwood, Kenwood Systems and Maggiore you get a two year wan tee. With Motorola, Midland and Johnsonyou get a 1 year. We do not carry any thing else. I am not in radio sales but I do know ifI buy a new car it is going to get fixed for a while when it is new. I know with the above repeaters I will get them fixed and I will not pay for parts or labor for some time. I am not a Ham and do not build repeaters from junk as stated earlier. I do manage four shops that puts together a lot of repeater for public safety and business folks. well over 200 a year at this point. I stand by my statement. Buy new. Be happy. Very best, Dean Westbrook, EE,PE. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Buy junk, build good Ham repeater at fraction of cost, be happy. Paul -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:49 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hello All, I do not know about some of the bands that are posted. I do know that with Kenwood, Kenwood Systems and Maggiore you get a two year wan tee. With Motorola, Midland and Johnsonyou get a 1 year. We do not carry any thing else. I am not in radio sales but I do know ifI buy a new car it is going to get fixed for a while when it is new. I know with the above repeaters I will get them fixed and I will not pay for parts or labor for some time. I am not a Ham and do not build repeaters from junk as stated earlier. I do manage four shops that puts together a lot of repeater for public safety and business folks. well over 200 a year at this point. I stand by my statement. Buy new. Be happy. Very best, Dean Westbrook, EE,PE. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Hey Kevin, I am not saying it is bad to buy older stuff. Just if you do not have the test equipment or know all the ins and outs you mite be better buying something new with a warn tee. I am real sure your converted stuff works just fine. I see lots of folks come in and out of our shop each day buying parts for all the GE and Motorola stuff but they can fix the older stuff. So yes in the long run a new repeater on 220 is not a bad idea at all. You guys can pick on Russ all you want but he has 26 Maggiore repeater on the air at last count and they all work. So I think on this one he knows the Maggiore stuff. Let us not forget his wife and father in law has dealerships for the big brand radio's and he can sure buy them at cost. Lord know we have tried to talk him into a few things over the years. Plus he can afford to buy any thing. He buys Maggiore. Why? Because they do not break down! when you have a very large on the air system like his you can't run to it ever. He does not! So you guys who say he has no idea are wrong! On 220 the Maggiore works well. Kevin your Micors I am sure works well. I have even seen the Master II's work well on 220 but if I did not have the test equipment and the know how. I would buy a new repeater. If I needed 220 that really only leaves Maggiore for a good off the shelf repeater that works day in and day out. 73, Dean Westbrook, EE,PE. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not a Ham and do not build repeaters from junk as stated earlier. Please realize that this list is for hams as well as commercial folks, so don't try to jam your 'always buy new' theory down anyone's throat here. I can guarantee you that the ham repeaters around here will blow away all of the commercial installations. Hams are MUCH harder to please and demand better performance. My 2 meter system and my 440 system covers all of my County, something that cannot be said for the multi-thousand dollar County radio installation. I do know that with Kenwood, Kenwood Systems and Maggiore you get a two year wan tee. Also, the topic here is 220 MHz repeaters. Does Kenwood, Motorola, Midland, and Johnson build 220 MHz. ham repeaters? If not, it really doesn't matter how damn good their (wan tee) is. Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
No they do not build 220 but Maggiore does. BTW we have built systems that work across whole states. But you are right I guess and I do not sell used stuff like you do so as I cannot speak on this I will be silent. 73 Dean Westbrook, EE,PE. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No they do not build 220 but Maggiore does. I have nothing against Maggiore. Paul builds a fine product at a very fair price, but he's not the only game in town when it comes to 220. BTW we have built systems that work across whole states. And I have systems running that work across many states, and bigger than NJ or DE by many times over. All built with 'used' stuff. http://www.kuggie.com/target/ Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Dean I agree with you for public safety you want new. But as an Engineer and an Amateur I have to disagree with you for Amateur use. Amateur Radio is about experimentation and building projects to the best quality you can. Unfortunately in this day and age few Hams build stuff anymore, so when I see people on this list wanting to build repeaters to a high quality level it just plain warms my heart. This is what Ham Radio is supposed to be about. Now as to the term "junk" remember what is junk to one man is gold to another. Yes we start with things like GE Mstr. II Exec's that commercial radio shops deem not fit for public safety. Their reason is usually based on the cost to repair them vs. new. As Hams we can take these and restore them back to new condition or better because were not trying to make a profit. We do it because we love to build and experiment. You are looking at it from a commercial view point not an Amateur Radio Operator view point and there is a big difference. So to those of you who like to build projects a hearty "RIGHT ON" this keeps Ham radio alive. 73, Mike/K1EG Another Ole Fart in the Radio Field. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hello All, I do not know about some of the bands that are posted. I do know that with Kenwood, Kenwood Systems and Maggiore you get a two year wan tee. With Motorola, Midland and Johnsonyou get a 1 year. We do not carry any thing else. I am not in radio sales but I do know ifI buy a new car it is going to get fixed for a while when it is new. I know with the above repeaters I will get them fixed and I will not pay for parts or labor for some time. I am not a Ham and do not build repeaters from junk as stated earlier. I do manage four shops that puts together a lot of repeater for public safety and business folks. well over 200 a year at this point. I stand by my statement. Buy new. Be happy. Very best, Dean Westbrook, EE,PE. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
RIGHT ON! That is what I
was trying to get across, guess I type a different language!
Paul
-Original Message-From: Mike/k1eg
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005
6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re:
[Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Dean I agree with you for public
safety you want new. But as an Engineer and an Amateur I have to
disagree with you for Amateur use.
Amateur Radio is about
experimentation and building projects to the best quality you can.
Unfortunately in this day and age few Hams build stuff anymore, so when I see
people on this list wanting to build repeaters to a high quality level it just
plain warms my heart. This is what Ham Radio is supposed to be
about.
Now as to the term "junk" remember
what is junk to one man is gold to another. Yes we start with things
like GE Mstr. II Exec's that commercial radio shops deem not fit for public
safety. Their reason is usually based on the cost to repair them vs.
new. As Hams we can take these and restore them back to new condition or
better because were not trying to make a profit. We do it because we
love to build and experiment.
You are looking at it from a
commercial view point not an Amateur Radio Operator view point and there is a
big difference. So to those of you who like to build projects a hearty
"RIGHT ON" this keeps Ham radio alive.
73,
Mike/K1EG
Another Ole Fart in the Radio
Field.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:48
PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220
Mhz. repeater
Hello All,
I do not know about some of the bands that
are
posted. I do know that with Kenwood, Kenwood
Systems and Maggiore you get a two year wan
tee.
With Motorola, Midland and Johnsonyou get a 1
year.
We do not carry any thing else. I am not in
radio
sales but I do know ifI buy a new car it is going
to
get fixed for a while when it is new. I know
with
the above repeaters I will get them fixed and
I
will not pay for parts or labor for some
time.
I am not a Ham and do not build repeaters
from
junk as stated earlier. I do manage four shops
that
puts together a lot of repeater for public
safety
and business folks. well over 200 a year at
this
point. I stand by my statement. Buy new. Be
happy.
Very best,
Dean Westbrook, EE,PE.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Perhaps the repeater buyers would like to start a Repeater-Buyers group and leave the technical challenges to real repeater builders. Dex Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
I have to agree. The ham repeaters here outperform the fire, police and med systems hands down. All with cast-off "junk." Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not a Ham and do not build repeaters from junk as stated earlier.Please realize that this list is for hams as well as commercial folks, so don't try to jam your 'always buy new' theory down anyone's throat here.I can guarantee you that the ham repeaters around here will blow away all of the commercial installations. Hams are MUCH harder to please and demand better performance. My 2 meter system and my 440 system covers all of my County, something that cannot be said for the multi-thousand dollar County radio installation. I do know that with Kenwood, Kenwood Systems and Maggiore you get a two year wan tee.Also, the topic here is 220 MHz repeaters. Does Kenwood, Motorola, Midland, and Johnson build 220 MHz. ham repeaters?If not, it really doesn't matter how damn good their (wan tee) is.Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Danny wrote: Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used You can have both ( a new, used one): http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/micor220conversion.html Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Hey Danny, You can't beat the new Maggiore repeaters for 222MHz! I have a pile of them on the air and they just run and run! Can't beat there new receiver on 222! Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used Thanks, Danny Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
I'll second that, I own 3 maggiore repeaters. One of my sights, ihaven't been to in over 3 years. -Original Message- From: russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:58 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hey Danny, You can't beat the new Maggiore repeaters for 222MHz! I have a pile of them on the air and they just run and run! Can't beat there new receiver on 222! Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used Thanks, Danny Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Did you apply power to them? Neil Jed Barton wrote: I'll second that, I own 3 maggiore repeaters. One of my sights, ihaven't been to in over 3 years. -Original Message- From: russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:58 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hey Danny, You can't beat the new Maggiore repeaters for 222MHz! I have a pile of them on the air and they just run and run! Can't beat there new receiver on 222! Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used Thanks, Danny Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Hey John, No drum! Just a fine product! Lots of us on here Buy them, Like them and use them. We have all heard enough from you! If you have nothing positive to say be quite. Russ, W3CH. - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater oh no, the Maggoire drum beating of Russ starting again. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:53:47 PM CST From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Danny, You can't beat the new Maggiore repeaters for 222MHz! I have a pile of them on the air and they just run and run! Can't beat there new receiver on 222! Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used Thanks, Danny Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
I have Maggiore machines also Yes They have power On and they work great... Neil McKie wrote: Did you apply power to them? Neil Jed Barton wrote: I'll second that, I own 3 maggiore repeaters. One of my sights, ihaven't been to in over 3 years. -Original Message- From: russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:58 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hey Danny, You can't beat the new Maggiore repeaters for 222MHz! I have a pile of them on the air and they just run and run! Can't beat there new receiver on 222! Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: "Danny" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used Thanks, Danny Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Russ, So whats the cost of this type of repeater? I know its only money ,but I still like to keep most of it at home.. Danny - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hey John, No drum! Just a fine product! Lots of us on here Buy them, Like them and use them. We have all heard enough from you! If you have nothing positive to say be quite. Russ, W3CH. - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater oh no, the Maggoire drum beating of Russ starting again. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:53:47 PM CST From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Danny, You can't beat the new Maggiore repeaters for 222MHz! I have a pile of them on the air and they just run and run! Can't beat there new receiver on 222! Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used Thanks, Danny Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Danny, depends on what you get for a controller. Email me off list and i'll give you some suggestions. Thanks, Jed -Original Message- From: Danny R. Goodrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 11:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Russ, So whats the cost of this type of repeater? I know its only money ,but I still like to keep most of it at home.. Danny - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hey John, No drum! Just a fine product! Lots of us on here Buy them, Like them and use them. We have all heard enough from you! If you have nothing positive to say be quite. Russ, W3CH. - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater oh no, the Maggoire drum beating of Russ starting again. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:53:47 PM CST From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Danny, You can't beat the new Maggiore repeaters for 222MHz! I have a pile of them on the air and they just run and run! Can't beat there new receiver on 222! Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used Thanks, Danny Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater
Thanks Russ. I am being very quite (?!?!?!). Now why don't you try being quiet let's stay on the constructive topic of repeater building rather than drum beating. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:47:18 PM CST From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hey John, No drum! Just a fine product! Lots of us on here Buy them, Like them and use them. We have all heard enough from you! If you have nothing positive to say be quite. Russ, W3CH. - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater oh no, the Maggoire drum beating of Russ starting again. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:53:47 PM CST From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Danny, You can't beat the new Maggiore repeaters for 222MHz! I have a pile of them on the air and they just run and run! Can't beat there new receiver on 222! Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Mhz. repeater Hello, I am looking for a 220 machine new or used Thanks, Danny Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
