RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)
Neil, Maybe, I thought it was on Cedar Hill with the rest of the TV transmitters. Guess I will have to research that, I am a little closer to that transmitter than the Cedar Hill sites, hope it does not affect me too much. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:59 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used) Are you referring to KDTN - Denton Texas? ERP is only 100 kW ... at 412m HAAT Neil - WA6KLA Paul Finch wrote: > > Hello, > > I am about 45 miles away from a channel 2 high powered TV station, > should I be worried about he repeater I am building? > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nate Duehr > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:06 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used) > > skipp025 wrote: > > > Channel 2 from San Francisco is line of sight to our > > system. A combination of antenna shielding, some > > homebrew filters and a bit of dancing made the system > > usable and a lot of fun before the higher power tx > > was placed in service. > > Skipp, > > Try about 8 miles line of sight with Ch 2 @ ~20 KW. :-( > > Having any Ch 2 nearby -- no matter how you slice it -- really sucks. > > Hmmm... antenna shielding... > > Hey, yeah, we could put the antenna underground! ;-) Yeah, yeah... > that's the ticket! (GRIN) > > Our poor 6m machine is quite deaf due to the noise level. > > Nate WY0X > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)
Yeah, when Mobilecomm (now Arch) decomissioned their 30 and 40 MHz paging systems here on the east coast, lowband Decibel and Celwave pass cavities were a dime a dozen (or often free). I scooped up as many as I could store, probably 50 or so. All but a few are in service on 6m repeaters, most of which were converted to pass/reject and used to make duplexers. Every now and then I still see them pop up at hamfests, but not like it was 6 or 7 years ago. There was a guy that used to be on this list (K4YC?) who drove up from George and hauled away all the lower-frequency cavities I had since I was out of storage space, probably 20 or more of them. Now that my supply is starting to run out I'm wishing I hadn't given them all away; they could have been cut down to 6m. Maybe he's still lurking? --- Jeff > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025 > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:58 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used) > > > Before Ebay came on line... people were giving away low > band cavities at the flea markets. I hauled about 8 home > while my friends laughed at the trailer full of large > tubes. > > Although they still laugh about it... I have the cavities > in service. Well... maybe they were also laughing at > the TRS-80 Model One Computer I had on the back seat. :-) > > cheers, > skipp > > > "Mike Perryman K5JMP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I sure wish I could locate cans for that price.. > > If you hear of any let me know.. > > > > mike > > > > True ... > > > > Before 6 meter repeaters became really popular in Oregon - last > > several years - DB Products 40-50 MHz cans were going for $25 or > > $50 at the local swapmeets. > > > > Neil > > > > Paul Finch wrote: > > > > > > Neil, > > > > > > In Texas it's 1 MHz. At least it's better than 500 KHz. > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)
I sure wish I could locate cans for that price.. If you hear of any let me know.. mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 3:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used) True ... Before 6 meter repeaters became really popular in Oregon - last several years - DB Products 40-50 MHz cans were going for $25 or $50 at the local swapmeets. Neil Paul Finch wrote: > > Neil, > > In Texas it's 1 MHz. At least it's better than 500 KHz. > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 2:20 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not > used) > > Another nice item about living the Pacific Northwest ... the > six meter band plan in western Washington and all of Oregon has > a 1.7 MHz in/output split. > > Neil - WA6KLA > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > At 11/26/2005 10:19, you wrote: > > >One of my first (Hamtronics) 6 meter repeaters > > >worked fine... same site no duplexer. I had > > >65 ft antenna separation, a ground plane (converted > > >CB 5/8 wave) for rx at the top and a low gain > > >1/2 dipole (converted scanner antenna) at the > > >bottom. > > > > > >The elevated site worked an easy 30 mile radius with > > >a whopping 2.3 watts output. Talk about a smoker... > > > > > >Who says you need a duplexer..? > > > > > >Just drop the power down... > > > > > >cheers, > > >skipp > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)
Are you referring to KDTN - Denton Texas? ERP is only 100 kW ... at 412m HAAT Neil - WA6KLA Paul Finch wrote: > > Hello, > > I am about 45 miles away from a channel 2 high powered TV station, > should I be worried about he repeater I am building? > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nate Duehr > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:06 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used) > > skipp025 wrote: > > > Channel 2 from San Francisco is line of sight to our > > system. A combination of antenna shielding, some > > homebrew filters and a bit of dancing made the system > > usable and a lot of fun before the higher power tx > > was placed in service. > > Skipp, > > Try about 8 miles line of sight with Ch 2 @ ~20 KW. :-( > > Having any Ch 2 nearby -- no matter how you slice it -- really sucks. > > Hmmm... antenna shielding... > > Hey, yeah, we could put the antenna underground! ;-) Yeah, yeah... > that's the ticket! (GRIN) > > Our poor 6m machine is quite deaf due to the noise level. > > Nate WY0X > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)
Hello, I am about 45 miles away from a channel 2 high powered TV station, should I be worried about he repeater I am building? Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used) skipp025 wrote: > Channel 2 from San Francisco is line of sight to our > system. A combination of antenna shielding, some > homebrew filters and a bit of dancing made the system > usable and a lot of fun before the higher power tx > was placed in service. Skipp, Try about 8 miles line of sight with Ch 2 @ ~20 KW. :-( Having any Ch 2 nearby -- no matter how you slice it -- really sucks. Hmmm... antenna shielding... Hey, yeah, we could put the antenna underground! ;-) Yeah, yeah... that's the ticket! (GRIN) Our poor 6m machine is quite deaf due to the noise level. Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)
skipp025 wrote: > Channel 2 from San Francisco is line of sight to our > system. A combination of antenna shielding, some > homebrew filters and a bit of dancing made the system > usable and a lot of fun before the higher power tx > was placed in service. Skipp, Try about 8 miles line of sight with Ch 2 @ ~20 KW. :-( Having any Ch 2 nearby -- no matter how you slice it -- really sucks. Hmmm... antenna shielding... Hey, yeah, we could put the antenna underground! ;-) Yeah, yeah... that's the ticket! (GRIN) Our poor 6m machine is quite deaf due to the noise level. Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)
True ... Before 6 meter repeaters became really popular in Oregon - last several years - DB Products 40-50 MHz cans were going for $25 or $50 at the local swapmeets. Neil Paul Finch wrote: > > Neil, > > In Texas it's 1 MHz. At least it's better than 500 KHz. > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 2:20 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not > used) > > Another nice item about living the Pacific Northwest ... the > six meter band plan in western Washington and all of Oregon has > a 1.7 MHz in/output split. > > Neil - WA6KLA > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > At 11/26/2005 10:19, you wrote: > > >One of my first (Hamtronics) 6 meter repeaters > > >worked fine... same site no duplexer. I had > > >65 ft antenna separation, a ground plane (converted > > >CB 5/8 wave) for rx at the top and a low gain > > >1/2 dipole (converted scanner antenna) at the > > >bottom. > > > > > >The elevated site worked an easy 30 mile radius with > > >a whopping 2.3 watts output. Talk about a smoker... > > > > > >Who says you need a duplexer..? > > > > > >Just drop the power down... > > > > > >cheers, > > >skipp > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)
Neil, In Texas it's 1 MHz. At least it's better than 500 KHz. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 2:20 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used) Another nice item about living the Pacific Northwest ... the six meter band plan in western Washington and all of Oregon has a 1.7 MHz in/output split. Neil - WA6KLA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > At 11/26/2005 10:19, you wrote: > >One of my first (Hamtronics) 6 meter repeaters > >worked fine... same site no duplexer. I had > >65 ft antenna separation, a ground plane (converted > >CB 5/8 wave) for rx at the top and a low gain > >1/2 dipole (converted scanner antenna) at the > >bottom. > > > >The elevated site worked an easy 30 mile radius with > >a whopping 2.3 watts output. Talk about a smoker... > > > >Who says you need a duplexer..? > > > >Just drop the power down... > > > >cheers, > >skipp > > What I/O split does it run? Here in SoCal we use 500 kHz. FWIW, I notice > more repeaters on 6 meters with self-desense than any other band, which is > even worse when you consider that the noise floor on 6 is higher than the > higher bands. > > Bob > > P.S.: 2.5 watts TX power would never cut it here - too much ch. 2 VSB > > Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)
Another nice item about living the Pacific Northwest ... the six meter band plan in western Washington and all of Oregon has a 1.7 MHz in/output split. Neil - WA6KLA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > At 11/26/2005 10:19, you wrote: > >One of my first (Hamtronics) 6 meter repeaters > >worked fine... same site no duplexer. I had > >65 ft antenna separation, a ground plane (converted > >CB 5/8 wave) for rx at the top and a low gain > >1/2 dipole (converted scanner antenna) at the > >bottom. > > > >The elevated site worked an easy 30 mile radius with > >a whopping 2.3 watts output. Talk about a smoker... > > > >Who says you need a duplexer..? > > > >Just drop the power down... > > > >cheers, > >skipp > > What I/O split does it run? Here in SoCal we use 500 kHz. FWIW, I notice > more repeaters on 6 meters with self-desense than any other band, which is > even worse when you consider that the noise floor on 6 is higher than the > higher bands. > > Bob > > P.S.: 2.5 watts TX power would never cut it here - too much ch. 2 VSB > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater duplexer (not used)
At 11/26/2005 10:19, you wrote: >One of my first (Hamtronics) 6 meter repeaters >worked fine... same site no duplexer. I had >65 ft antenna separation, a ground plane (converted >CB 5/8 wave) for rx at the top and a low gain >1/2 dipole (converted scanner antenna) at the >bottom. > >The elevated site worked an easy 30 mile radius with >a whopping 2.3 watts output. Talk about a smoker... > >Who says you need a duplexer..? > >Just drop the power down... > >cheers, >skipp What I/O split does it run? Here in SoCal we use 500 kHz. FWIW, I notice more repeaters on 6 meters with self-desense than any other band, which is even worse when you consider that the noise floor on 6 is higher than the higher bands. Bob P.S.: 2.5 watts TX power would never cut it here - too much ch. 2 VSB Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
