RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cleaning coax corrosion

2009-10-09 Thread Barry

I expect shortly the inner will become softer and tacky white , the impedance 
will lump and the cable becomes an attenuator . cut it back and add a bit if 
you must but if the braid is tarnished you will have a continence of problems 
and quickly until you replace it with new or nearly so . Once replaced wrap the 
joint with a suitable sealing material / tape which can be found anywhere a 
cabler or telecomms persons buys  stock ( and has been discussed at length) t 
do otherwise wll be frought with eventual failure , good luck with making a 
good repair .

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: wb2...@roadrunner.com
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:24:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cleaning coax corrosion















 





  John -



I'll add to my previous response.



The fact that the braid had discolored and tarnished is an indication that 

the integrity of the coax has been compromised. Water has migrated into it 

along with other contaminants. The result is that the coax is likely to 

exhibit reduced performance due to changes in it's electrical 

characteristics. While you may still "get by," I'd suggest that you start 

planning on replacing the entire run at some point.



I have no idea how critical the installation is, so that will dictate the 

urgency of your ultimate resolution. Maybe it's not that important and you 

can sustain a total failure at any given time. But if it does deteriorate 

further and become unusable, it will likely happen at the worst possible 

moment.



At least that's my opinion.



Chuck

WB2EDV



- Original Message - 

From: "John" 

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Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:08 AM

Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cleaning coax corrosion



> Thanks to those that responded. I was able to cut the cable back a

> little way and use steel wool to clean the braid enough to take solder

>

> Thanks,

>

> John

>

> n3dab wrote:

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cleaning coax corrosion

2009-10-09 Thread Chuck Kelsey
John -

I'll add to my previous response.

The fact that the braid had discolored and tarnished is an indication that 
the integrity of the coax has been compromised. Water has migrated into it 
along with other contaminants. The result is that the coax is likely to 
exhibit reduced performance due to changes in it's electrical 
characteristics. While you may still "get by," I'd suggest that you start 
planning on replacing the entire run at some point.

I have no idea how critical the installation is, so that will dictate the 
urgency of your ultimate resolution. Maybe it's not that important and you 
can sustain a total failure at any given time. But if it does deteriorate 
further and become unusable, it will likely happen at the worst possible 
moment.

At least that's my opinion.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: "John" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cleaning coax corrosion


> Thanks to those that responded. I was able to cut the cable back a
> little way and use steel wool to clean the braid enough to take solder
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> n3dab wrote:
>



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cleaning coax corrosion

2009-10-09 Thread John
Thanks to those that responded. I was able to cut the cable back a 
little way and use steel wool to clean the braid enough to take solder

Thanks,

John

n3dab wrote:

>Since you have to diconnect it at the antenna end (the almost unreachable 
>place ) and it is not for a repeater, why not just cut it back to where it is 
>convenient to work on it (preferably indoors and weather protected) and 
>provide a new piece of cable as a jumper to the antenna.  If you cut the old 
>cable back far enough from the exposed end you should be able to get to clean 
>braid and center conductor, and insert ing a barrel connector wont degrade 
>your signal enough to worry about.   
>
>Doug N3DAB 
>




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cleaning coax corrosion

2009-10-05 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I would agree. The cable must have wicked water. If you don't get back to 
shiny braid, you'll likely have a very lossy chunk of coax.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: "n3dab" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 4:50 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cleaning coax corrosion


> Since you have to diconnect it at the antenna end (the almost unreachable 
> place ) and it is not for a repeater, why not just cut it back to where it 
> is convenient to work on it (preferably indoors and weather protected) and 
> provide a new piece of cable as a jumper to the antenna.  If you cut the 
> old cable back far enough from the exposed end you should be able to get 
> to clean braid and center conductor, and insert ing a barrel connector 
> wont degrade your signal enough to worry about.
>
> Doug N3DAB
>
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, John  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need to replace a PL-259 on the end of a piece of RG-8U at the antenna
>> end. The coax shielding is severely corroded, I can cut back aways and
>> still reach but I need to clean the shielding so I can solder on a new
>> connector. Any suggestion to do this.
>> This is on the roof of a building and the coax is routed around the
>> rampart to the antenna mount and almost impossible to replace.
>> Before the "cable cops" jump on me it's not for repeater service.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
>> -- 
>> John Mc Hugh, K4AG
>> Coordinator for Amateur Radio
>> National Hurricane Center, WX4NHC
>> Home page:- http://www.wx4nhc.org
>>