RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mast Materials

2004-04-30 Thread Daron J. Wilson
> Darin, get two ten foot sections of used tower sections at a swap.
Made for
> your project.  Strong, light and you can guy them for extra safety.
They
> are made to bring the wind load down to the base.

That is also an idea, however guy wires are not acceptable for the site.
Also the snow load tends to break guys and fold towers as the snow
shifts down the hills.

thanks









 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mast Materials

2004-04-30 Thread Al Allum
Darin, get two ten foot sections of used tower sections at a swap.  Made for
your project.  Strong, light and you can guy them for extra safety.  They
are made to bring the wind load down to the base.

Al, N8ARO


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From: "Daron J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mast Materials


> > Why don't you just buy 2" galvanized plumbing pipe? A full sized
> length is
> > 21 feet outside diameter is approx.. 2 1/4".
>
> I might...but galvanized pipe and rigid conduit like that are made from
> malleable steel, we bend it all the time into 90 degree bends, which is
> not the desire for a rigid mast.  Structural steel is a different
> animal.  Somehow I don't think a 21' piece of 2" water pipe with a 21'
> fiberglass whip on top is going to do real well at 80mph on a hilltop.
> Hence the reason I was asking what was done to make a mast 'reinforced'.






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mast Materials

2004-04-30 Thread Richard
You just call 'em sir...
Richard

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I wouldn't want to mess with someone who goes around bending 2" water pipe
all day long. 






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mast Materials

2004-04-30 Thread Daron J. Wilson
> I wouldn't want to mess with someone who goes around bending 2" water
pipe
> all day long.  Best answer would be to ask a mechanical engineer who
is
> also a ham.  Round these parts the mast of choice is oil well drilling
rod
> or also called sucker rod.  I have never used it but hear others who
have.
>
Well I don't do it by hand :)  We've got nice hydraulic benders for that
purpose.  My point was the stuff is rather soft and bends well, not
quite the ultimate desire for a mast.


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mast Materials

2004-04-30 Thread Steve S. Bosshard \(NU5D\)
I wouldn't want to mess with someone who goes around bending 2" water pipe
all day long.  Best answer would be to ask a mechanical engineer who is
also a ham.  Round these parts the mast of choice is oil well drilling rod
or also called sucker rod.  I have never used it but hear others who have.

Myself, I use 1 1/2" Rigid Conduit, but not over 10 ft length, and after
cantilever, only abt 6 ft is exposed to lateral forces.

Wonder if a Rohn (rip) catalogue might have some specifications for such?

Regards,

Steve

But I might be wrong.






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mast Materials

2004-04-30 Thread Daron J. Wilson
> Why don't you just buy 2" galvanized plumbing pipe? A full sized
length is
> 21 feet outside diameter is approx.. 2 1/4".

I might...but galvanized pipe and rigid conduit like that are made from
malleable steel, we bend it all the time into 90 degree bends, which is
not the desire for a rigid mast.  Structural steel is a different
animal.  Somehow I don't think a 21' piece of 2" water pipe with a 21'
fiberglass whip on top is going to do real well at 80mph on a hilltop.
Hence the reason I was asking what was done to make a mast 'reinforced'.








 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mast Materials

2004-04-29 Thread Alan
Why don't you just buy 2" galvanized plumbing pipe? A full sized length is
21 feet outside diameter is approx.. 2 1/4".

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> You can buy 2" structual steel tubing in 20' lengths in wall
> thickness from 0.049 to 0.5 inches. You will either have to paint
> it or have it galvanized. Just bought some for a HF antenna project.
> The thicker wall sizes are pretty heavy; 0.5 inch is about
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