Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders - CLOSED

2008-08-11 Thread Scott Zimmerman
OK. I thought that the requests from a few members would have sufficed to 
close this thread. Apparently you guys don't play well at the policing 
yourselves game after all. So

AS MODERATOR AND LIST OWNER - THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED!

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

- Original Message - 
From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders


 In the USA, anyone can sue anyone at any time for any reason.

 They don't have to even have a valid case to file a suit. Granted, it
 won't 'go far', and they will most likely lose (unless you get a judge
 who likes to make law rather than interpret it), but they can still file
 against you.

 So, while you are correct about the fact that under FCC rules you can
 restrict anyone from using your station, he is correct that they can
 file suit even though you're completely in the right.

 In fact, it's more likely your FRRL could get sued for holding meetings
 at a location that is inaccessible by the offender. It would seem to be
 the same basis as the handicapped have used for years to successfully
 sue places that were not accessible to them, and while you can legally
 prevent someone from using your transmitter, there is less grounds for
 excluding someone from a social club such as the FRRL.

 While I can sympathize with your situation, read the first line of this
 post.

 Personally, I've only banned one person from my repeaters, and it was
 because they willfully interfered with other operators (and were cited
 by the FCC for doing so).

 Joe M.

 Paul Dumdie wrote:
The gentleman who says that you will end up
 on the wrong side of a lawsuit is just plain wrong.
 The repeater trustee may limit access by licensed
 amateurs to a repeater for any reason - any at all AND
 the is no recourse by the excluded amateur. Since the
 FRRL Aurora IL has families with children and minors
 who are amateurs we exclude all sex offenders from
 our membership.

 Also -we hold meetings in public places known under
 Illinois law as safe zones from which sex offenders
 are excluded; they cannot be full voting members.

  Again, the gentleman who mentioned lawsuits is
 completely blowing smoke - the banned amateur excluded
 from repeater access has no legal standing - period -
 end of story

 Paul R. Dumdie Jr. 73
 W9DWP/R IRLP-NODE-4455
 443.025/2A 145.270/1B/1Z/NAC-293
 ARC-Radio-8  KCARES
 HERD546  EX WB9QWZ
 WQGG738   AAR5CU/T
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders - CLOSED

2008-08-11 Thread Richard
Oops! Sorry for my last post, didn't see this in time.
 
Richard
 http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net
 


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders - CLOSED



OK. I thought that the requests from a few members would have sufficed
to 
close this thread. Apparently you guys don't play well at the
policing 
yourselves game after all. So

AS MODERATOR AND LIST OWNER - THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED!

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

- Original Message - 
From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mch%40nb.net 
To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders

 In the USA, anyone can sue anyone at any time for any reason.

 They don't have to even have a valid case to file a suit. Granted,
it
 won't 'go far', and they will most likely lose (unless you get a
judge
 who likes to make law rather than interpret it), but they can still
file
 against you.

 So, while you are correct about the fact that under FCC rules you
can
 restrict anyone from using your station, he is correct that they can
 file suit even though you're completely in the right.

 In fact, it's more likely your FRRL could get sued for holding
meetings
 at a location that is inaccessible by the offender. It would seem to
be
 the same basis as the handicapped have used for years to
successfully
 sue places that were not accessible to them, and while you can
legally
 prevent someone from using your transmitter, there is less grounds
for
 excluding someone from a social club such as the FRRL.

 While I can sympathize with your situation, read the first line of
this
 post.

 Personally, I've only banned one person from my repeaters, and it
was
 because they willfully interfered with other operators (and were
cited
 by the FCC for doing so).

 Joe M.

 Paul Dumdie wrote:
 The gentleman who says that you will end up
 on the wrong side of a lawsuit is just plain wrong.
 The repeater trustee may limit access by licensed
 amateurs to a repeater for any reason - any at all AND
 the is no recourse by the excluded amateur. Since the
 FRRL Aurora IL has families with children and minors
 who are amateurs we exclude all sex offenders from
 our membership.

 Also -we hold meetings in public places known under
 Illinois law as safe zones from which sex offenders
 are excluded; they cannot be full voting members.

 Again, the gentleman who mentioned lawsuits is
 completely blowing smoke - the banned amateur excluded
 from repeater access has no legal standing - period -
 end of story

 Paul R. Dumdie Jr. 73
 W9DWP/R IRLP-NODE-4455
 443.025/2A 145.270/1B/1Z/NAC-293
 ARC-Radio-8 KCARES
 HERD546 EX WB9QWZ
 WQGG738 AAR5CU/T
 www.riflesandradios.com

 



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