RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

[Barry C']

I would think a disk manager with dual boot dos /xp or what ever as required 
but you may need to set the bios correctly for the slow comms on the ports used 
which is what I do here for programming things in my area of expertise although 
I just boot to dos from xp ( which is almost a simulation) and run things there 
.

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:07:16 -0700
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or 
equivalent for radio programmming




















Thank you all for the advice.  However, I have had no success with

using XP (or finding a DOS startup option..are you sure you're not

confusing XP with WIn98SE?).  Maybe you have a dual boot setup?



Remember I need to use Moto RSS for the MT-1000 and Spectra.  The only

machine I have had luck with is a P1 processor at 166 mhz running

WIn98SE.  I've tried faster laptops and desktops...P2s and P3's with

both XP and WIn98 with no luck at all.  (Win98 is always started in

DOS mode, never a DOS window).



Thank you again for all the replies...I appreciate it.



Dennis



On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Doug Bade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> CF-27's are probably as easy or easier to find and maybe

> cheaper on Ebay... We have been using them for DOS radio RSS

> programming for a long time... and generally the batteries cost more

> than the laptop...many are 300/350 mhz processors, some 500-550

> mhz... I have one (PIII 500) set up for DOS and XP, I use it for all

> RSS we operate up to and including M/A-Com RPM... I use a boot floppy

> to get to DOS and have all the DOS RSS in a fat32 partition. It has a

> real serial port and a touch screen to boot... I think I paid $90.00

> for it plus shipping...and it has a win2k COAas well...Probably a

> good choice for 99.9% of what needs to be programmed in the radio world...

>

> The HT600/P200 sw I think is the quirkiest about CPU, the rest seem

> pretty flexible.. in the PII and PIII sub 600 mhz areaa real

> 16450/16550 UART is more important

>

> Doug

> KD8B

>

> At 06:51 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:

>

>>yes, hence the "..or equivalent..." part.

>>

>>On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C'

>><<mailto:atec77%40hotmail.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> > Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the

>> > toughbook

>> > isn't a must ?

>> >

>> > 

>> > To:

>> <mailto:forsale-swap%40mailman.qth.net>[EMAIL PROTECTED];

>> <mailto:motorola%40mailman.qth.net>[EMAIL PROTECTED];

>> >

>> <mailto:motorola-Radios%40yahoogroups.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED];

>>

>> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

>> > From:

>> > <mailto:sacramento.cyclist%40gmail.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700

>> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or

>> > equivalent for radio programmming

>> >

>> > Good evening everyone,

>> >

>> > Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the

>> > seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my

>> > MT-1000 and Spectras.

>> >

>> > Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608.

>> >

>> > Thanks! Dennis

>> >

>> > --

>> > Dennis L. Wade

>> > KG6ZI

>> > Carmichael, CA

>

> 



-- 

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KG6ZI

Carmichael, CA


  



















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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

[Doug Bade]

I meant short installing by 1gb... 1024 mb... sorryor whatever 
you can spare from the XP drive for DOS programs and that depends on 
how many you have.. or wish to collect :-)
Doug


At 03:31 PM 6/13/2008, you wrote:

>There is no DOS startup internal to XP, however you can make a DOS
>boot floppy from the Format A: floppy screen. The trick is you need
>to partition the hard drive into 2 partitions 1 fat32 and pretty much
>needs to be less than 1024 mb and the rest as NTFS for XP to
>use...Copy all the DOS programs to the fat32 partition, and when you
>boot from floppy with the boot disk you created in XP foramtting tab,
>the DOS fat32 partition will be visible as C : to the floppy command
>and interpretter... go to C:xx as you would normally and it will run fine
>
>The only way to have DOS startup from XP is to have a DOS disk
>overlaid with XP in fat32 mode.. not NTFS, and that is far from a
>stock install...
>
>The entire process I listed above can be done on a new XP install by
>short installing the hard drive by 1 meg or so, and reserve that to
>convert to a fat 32 partition later...then let XP install the rest of
>the drive as it normally would.. after that you can go into disk
>manger and format the remaining extra disk space as fat32 and put
>whatever DOS stuff you want on it then a boot floppy will get you to it...
>
>It sounds a lot more complicated than it is...
>
>Doug
>
>At 01:07 PM 6/13/2008, you wrote:
>
> >Thank you all for the advice. However, I have had no success with
> >using XP (or finding a DOS startup option..are you sure you're not
> >confusing XP with WIn98SE?). Maybe you have a dual boot setup?
> >
> >Remember I need to use Moto RSS for the MT-1000 and Spectra. The only
> >machine I have had luck with is a P1 processor at 166 mhz running
> >WIn98SE. I've tried faster laptops and desktops...P2s and P3's with
> >both XP and WIn98 with no luck at all. (Win98 is always started in
> >DOS mode, never a DOS window).
> >
> >Thank you again for all the replies...I appreciate it.
> >
> >Dennis
> >
> >On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Doug Bade
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> des.net> wrote:
> > > CF-27's are probably as easy or easier to find and maybe
> > > cheaper on Ebay... We have been using them for DOS radio RSS
> > > programming for a long time... and generally the batteries cost more
> > > than the laptop...many are 300/350 mhz processors, some 500-550
> > > mhz... I have one (PIII 500) set up for DOS and XP, I use it for all
> > > RSS we operate up to and including M/A-Com RPM... I use a boot floppy
> > > to get to DOS and have all the DOS RSS in a fat32 partition. It has a
> > > real serial port and a touch screen to boot... I think I paid $90.00
> > > for it plus shipping...and it has a win2k COAas well...Probably a
> > > good choice for 99.9% of what needs to be programmed in the 
> radio world...
> > >
> > > The HT600/P200 sw I think is the quirkiest about CPU, the rest seem
> > > pretty flexible.. in the PII and PIII sub 600 mhz areaa real
> > > 16450/16550 UART is more important
> > >
> > > Doug
> > > KD8B
> > >
> > > At 06:51 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:
> > >
> > >>yes, hence the "..or equivalent..." part.
> > >>
> > >>On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C'
> > >><atec77@
> > hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the
> > >> > toughbook
> > >> > isn't a must ?
> > >> >
> > >> > 
> > >> > To:
> > >>
> > 
> [EMAIL
>  PROTECTED];
> > >>
> > 
> [EMAIL
>  PROTECTED];
> > >> >
> > >>
> > 
> [EMAIL
>  PROTECTED];
> > >>
> > >>
> > 
> Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > From:
> > >> >
> > 
> [EMAIL
>  PROTECTED]
> > >> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700
> > >> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or
> > >> > equivalent for radio programmming
> > >> >
> > >> > Good evening everyone,
> > >> >
> > >> > Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the
> > >> > seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my
> > >> > MT-1000 and Spectras.
> > >> >
> > >> > Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks! Dennis
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Dennis L. Wade
> > >> > KG6ZI
> > >> > Carmichael, CA
> > >
> > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

[Doug Bade]

There is no DOS startup internal to XP, however you can make a DOS 
boot floppy from the Format A: floppy screen. The trick is you need 
to partition the hard drive into 2 partitions 1 fat32 and pretty much 
needs to be less than 1024 mb and the rest as NTFS for XP to 
use...Copy all the DOS programs to the fat32 partition, and when you 
boot from floppy with the boot disk you created in XP foramtting tab, 
the DOS fat32 partition will be visible as C : to the floppy command 
and interpretter... go to C:xx as you would normally and it will run fine

The only way to have DOS startup from XP is to have a DOS disk 
overlaid with XP in fat32 mode.. not NTFS, and that is far from a 
stock install...

The entire process I listed above can be done on a new XP install by 
short installing the hard drive by 1 meg or so, and reserve that to 
convert to a fat 32 partition later...then let XP install the rest of 
the drive as it normally would.. after that you can go into disk 
manger and format the remaining extra disk space as fat32 and put 
whatever DOS stuff you want on it then a boot floppy will get you to it...

It sounds a lot  more complicated than it is...

Doug




At 01:07 PM 6/13/2008, you wrote:

>Thank you all for the advice. However, I have had no success with
>using XP (or finding a DOS startup option..are you sure you're not
>confusing XP with WIn98SE?). Maybe you have a dual boot setup?
>
>Remember I need to use Moto RSS for the MT-1000 and Spectra. The only
>machine I have had luck with is a P1 processor at 166 mhz running
>WIn98SE. I've tried faster laptops and desktops...P2s and P3's with
>both XP and WIn98 with no luck at all. (Win98 is always started in
>DOS mode, never a DOS window).
>
>Thank you again for all the replies...I appreciate it.
>
>Dennis
>
>On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Doug Bade 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > CF-27's are probably as easy or easier to find and maybe
> > cheaper on Ebay... We have been using them for DOS radio RSS
> > programming for a long time... and generally the batteries cost more
> > than the laptop...many are 300/350 mhz processors, some 500-550
> > mhz... I have one (PIII 500) set up for DOS and XP, I use it for all
> > RSS we operate up to and including M/A-Com RPM... I use a boot floppy
> > to get to DOS and have all the DOS RSS in a fat32 partition. It has a
> > real serial port and a touch screen to boot... I think I paid $90.00
> > for it plus shipping...and it has a win2k COAas well...Probably a
> > good choice for 99.9% of what needs to be programmed in the radio world...
> >
> > The HT600/P200 sw I think is the quirkiest about CPU, the rest seem
> > pretty flexible.. in the PII and PIII sub 600 mhz areaa real
> > 16450/16550 UART is more important
> >
> > Doug
> > KD8B
> >
> > At 06:51 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >>yes, hence the "..or equivalent..." part.
> >>
> >>On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C'
> >><atec77@ 
> hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the
> >> > toughbook
> >> > isn't a must ?
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > To:
> >> 
> [EMAIL
>  PROTECTED];
> >> 
> [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED];
> >> >
> >> 
> [EMAIL
>  PROTECTED];
> >>
> >> 
> Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >> > From:
> >> > 
> [EMAIL
>  PROTECTED]
> >> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700
> >> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or
> >> > equivalent for radio programmming
> >> >
> >> > Good evening everyone,
> >> >
> >> > Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the
> >> > seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my
> >> > MT-1000 and Spectras.
> >> >
> >> > Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks! Dennis
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Dennis L. Wade
> >> > KG6ZI
> >> > Carmichael, CA
> >
> >
>
>--
>Dennis L. Wade
>KG6ZI
>Carmichael, CA
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

[Dennis Wade]

Thank you all for the advice.  However, I have had no success with
using XP (or finding a DOS startup option..are you sure you're not
confusing XP with WIn98SE?).  Maybe you have a dual boot setup?

Remember I need to use Moto RSS for the MT-1000 and Spectra.  The only
machine I have had luck with is a P1 processor at 166 mhz running
WIn98SE.  I've tried faster laptops and desktops...P2s and P3's with
both XP and WIn98 with no luck at all.  (Win98 is always started in
DOS mode, never a DOS window).

   Thank you again for all the replies...I appreciate it.

  Dennis

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Doug Bade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CF-27's are probably as easy or easier to find and maybe
> cheaper on Ebay... We have been using them for DOS radio RSS
> programming for a long time... and generally the batteries cost more
> than the laptop...many are 300/350 mhz processors, some 500-550
> mhz... I have one (PIII 500) set up for DOS and XP, I use it for all
> RSS we operate up to and including M/A-Com RPM... I use a boot floppy
> to get to DOS and have all the DOS RSS in a fat32 partition. It has a
> real serial port and a touch screen to boot... I think I paid $90.00
> for it plus shipping...and it has a win2k COAas well...Probably a
> good choice for 99.9% of what needs to be programmed in the radio world...
>
> The HT600/P200 sw I think is the quirkiest about CPU, the rest seem
> pretty flexible.. in the PII and PIII sub 600 mhz areaa real
> 16450/16550 UART is more important
>
> Doug
> KD8B
>
> At 06:51 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:
>
>>yes, hence the "..or equivalent..." part.
>>
>>On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C'
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the
>> > toughbook
>> > isn't a must ?
>> >
>> > 
>> > To:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>> >
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>>
>> Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> > From:
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700
>> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or
>> > equivalent for radio programmming
>> >
>> > Good evening everyone,
>> >
>> > Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the
>> > seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my
>> > MT-1000 and Spectras.
>> >
>> > Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608.
>> >
>> > Thanks! Dennis
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dennis L. Wade
>> > KG6ZI
>> > Carmichael, CA
>
> 



-- 
Dennis L. Wade
KG6ZI
Carmichael, CA

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

[Doug Bade]

 CF-27's are probably as easy or easier to find and maybe 
cheaper on Ebay... We have been using them for DOS radio RSS 
programming for a long time... and generally the batteries cost more 
than the laptop...many are 300/350 mhz processors, some 500-550 
mhz... I have one (PIII 500) set up for DOS and XP, I use it for all 
RSS we operate up to and including M/A-Com RPM... I use a boot floppy 
to get to DOS and have all the DOS RSS in a fat32 partition. It has a 
real serial port and a touch screen to boot... I think I paid $90.00 
for it plus shipping...and it has a win2k COAas well...Probably a 
good choice for 99.9% of what needs to be programmed in the radio world...

The HT600/P200  sw I think is the quirkiest about CPU, the rest seem 
pretty flexible.. in the PII and PIII sub 600 mhz areaa real 
16450/16550 UART is more important

Doug
KD8B

At 06:51 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:

>yes, hence the "..or equivalent..." part.
>
>On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C' 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the toughbook
> > isn't a must ?
> >
> > 
> > To: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or
> > equivalent for radio programmming
> >
> > Good evening everyone,
> >
> > Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the
> > seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my
> > MT-1000 and Spectras.
> >
> > Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608.
> >
> > Thanks! Dennis
> >
> > --
> > Dennis L. Wade
> > KG6ZI
> > Carmichael, CA

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

[Dennis Wade]

yes, hence the "..or equivalent..." part.



On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the toughbook
> isn't a must ?
>
> 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or
> equivalent for radio programmming
>
> Good evening everyone,
>
> Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the
> seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my
> MT-1000 and Spectras.
>
> Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608.
>
> Thanks! Dennis
>
> --
> Dennis L. Wade
> KG6ZI
> Carmichael, CA
>
>
> 
> at CarPoint.com.au It's simple! Sell your car for just $30
> 



-- 
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KG6ZI
Carmichael, CA

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

[Ken Arck]

At 02:53 PM 6/12/2008, Barry C' wrote:

>Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the 
>toughbook isn't a must ?

<---I use a new generation Athlon based laptop (3800) which I boot 
directly to DOS and have no problem at all with RSS for the MSF5000 at least.

Ken
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

[Barry C']

Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the toughbook isn't 
a must ?

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent 
for radio programmming




















Good evening everyone,



Subject says it all.  Thought I had one lined up but the

seller flaked.  Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my

MT-1000 and Spectras.



Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608.



Thanks!  Dennis



-- 

Dennis L. Wade

KG6ZI

Carmichael, CA


  



















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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

[Alexandre Souza]

>>  Subject says it all.  Thought I had one lined up but the
>>  seller flaked.  Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my
>>  MT-1000 and Spectras.

Does it NEED to be a toughbook? I got nice results with DOS programs and 
the HP 1000CX (a trimmed-down version of the HP200LX). Why not try anything 
that runs DOS?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

[DCFluX]

Try Rick with Comcell Communications, 928-279-6251.

On 6/11/08, Dennis Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good evening everyone,
>
>  Subject says it all.  Thought I had one lined up but the
>  seller flaked.  Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my
>  MT-1000 and Spectras.
>
>  Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608.
>
>   Thanks!  Dennis
>
>  --
>  Dennis L. Wade
>  KG6ZI
>  Carmichael, CA
>
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