Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Fantastic Tim! Thanks for that - I will give it a shot and see how that works out. Will let you know. Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim Sawyer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios Hey John, All you have to do is edit the configuration file. You see the location of the configuration file when DOSBox starts. There are pretty plain comments in there as to how to set it up. Going from memory it was something like this: serial1 = directconnect realport:com1 -- Tim :wq On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:28 AM, La Rue Communications wrote: Actually this is on topic. Tim - can you relay to me, how your friend has his serial port set up to work with his DOSBox? My efforts were in vain. I think perhaps my XP Machine is too fast and modern? Only a theory. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Well, I go by the Repeater Builder Web site that states not to use emulators and various other methods to imitate a slow computer. Exact Quote below: I picked up a fully working Compaq Laptop on ebay for $20, works great for dos programs. A low end computer running MS-DOS (486 DX50 - i.e. maximum clock speed of 50MHz, with all cache memory disabled), and using a faster computer WILL turn good radios into bricks). Don't even think of running ANY version of Windows - this has to be a straight DOS computer. We are NOT kidding here. This is one case where slower is better, and going to a 486-33 or even a 386 wouldn't hurt. The required characteristics of the programming computer are described in depth on the RSS pages mentioned above. The newest revision of the Saber software is still too old to have the speed fix that is mentioned there applied. I repeat, find an old DOS computer no faster than 50mhz and with a real COM (serial) port. Desktop or laptop, it doesn't matter, except that many laptops do not give you the option to switch off the cache memory. From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 12:46:50 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios Fantastic Tim! Thanks for that - I will give it a shot and see how that works out. Will let you know. Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim Sawyer To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios Hey John, All you have to do is edit the configuration file. You see the location of the configuration file when DOSBox starts. There are pretty plain comments in there as to how to set it up. Going from memory it was something like this: serial1 = directconnect realport:com1 -- Tim :wq On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:28 AM, La Rue Communications wrote: Actually this is on topic. Tim - can you relay to me, how your friend has his serial port set up to work with his DOSBox? My efforts were in vain. I think perhaps my XP Machine is too fast and modern? Only a theory. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Finally - another Mac fan surfaces! :-) I have tried using DOSBox on our WinXP, however have had ZERO luck on the serial port recognition. Fromw hat I heard, the emulator will not recognize serial ports. Is that why you have resorted to the USB dongle? I cant remember if DOS ever recognized USB accessories. THats news to me! THanks for the tip! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Actually this is on topic. Tim - can you relay to me, how your friend has his serial port set up to work with his DOSBox? My efforts were in vain. I think perhaps my XP Machine is too fast and modern? Only a theory. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
I think freedos has support for usb devices. It's an open source clone of dos. It works for programming some radios in my experience but I never tried the usb support for a usb-serial adapter. On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 1:26 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Finally - another Mac fan surfaces! :-) I have tried using DOSBox on our WinXP, however have had ZERO luck on the serial port recognition. Fromw hat I heard, the emulator will not recognize serial ports. Is that why you have resorted to the USB dongle? I cant remember if DOS ever recognized USB accessories. THats news to me! THanks for the tip! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Tim - WD6AWP tisaw...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 09, 2010 7:02 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
If your computer will boot to a Thumb Drive, configure the thumb drive to boot dos and run from the external drive when you want to program legacy radios. I don't even bother to slow my fast laptop down when programming old radios (Syntors, etc). But some software only works well when you disable the processor internal cache, which I do with a simple (free) utility. So the same latest and greatest laptop can do both XP ( newer) and boot/run the old stuff. s. La Rue Communications laruec...@... wrote: Finally - another Mac fan surfaces! :-) I have tried using DOSBox on our WinXP, however have had ZERO luck on the serial port recognition. Fromw hat I heard, the emulator will not recognize serial ports. Is that why you have resorted to the USB dongle? I cant remember if DOS ever recognized USB accessories. THats news to me! THanks for the tip! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Tim, Is this freeware, or is there a charge for the software? I looked at the web site and couldn't determine what was what as it had an account / login area. There are so many areas to download from with different OS. I'm using x/p pro and I see that there is a windows download; does this cover all flavors of windows OS? Also, do you have any experience programming MTS 2000 radios using this software? TIA for your reply. 73, Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Its Freeware. Most software / Freeware vendors require a free (usually) account to download their software. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Don Kupferschmidt To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios Tim, Is this freeware, or is there a charge for the software? I looked at the web site and couldn't determine what was what as it had an account / login area. There are so many areas to download from with different OS. I'm using x/p pro and I see that there is a windows download; does this cover all flavors of windows OS? Also, do you have any experience programming MTS 2000 radios using this software? TIA for your reply. 73, Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Sorry Don - Hit send too soon. It should cover all flavors of *EDITORIAL* WinBlows *END EDITORIAL*. The link below is a direct link to the XP download, where I got mine. http://sourceforge.net/projects/dosbox/files/dosbox/0.74/DOSBox0.74-win32-installer.exe/download Good luck! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Don Kupferschmidt To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios Tim, Is this freeware, or is there a charge for the software? I looked at the web site and couldn't determine what was what as it had an account / login area. There are so many areas to download from with different OS. I'm using x/p pro and I see that there is a windows download; does this cover all flavors of windows OS? Also, do you have any experience programming MTS 2000 radios using this software? TIA for your reply. 73, Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Hey John, All you have to do is edit the configuration file. You see the location of the configuration file when DOSBox starts. There are pretty plain comments in there as to how to set it up. Going from memory it was something like this: serial1 = directconnect realport:com1 -- Tim :wq On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:28 AM, La Rue Communications wrote: Actually this is on topic. Tim - can you relay to me, how your friend has his serial port set up to work with his DOSBox? My efforts were in vain. I think perhaps my XP Machine is too fast and modern? Only a theory. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
What's the name of that little jewel Thanks, John skipp025 wrote: I don't even bother to slow my fast laptop down when programming old radios (Syntors, etc). But some software only works well when you disable the processor internal cache, which I do with a simple (free) utility.
