Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fan audio

2004-04-10 Thread Kevin Custer








Ken Arck wrote:

  At 02:22 PM 4/9/2004 -0400, you wrote:

  
  
Either run AC fans or use a different power supply than the one running 
your repeater to power those DC ones

  
  
---I'm running two 12 Vdc fans in my Micor repeater. I use a 200 uh choke
in each lead (+  -) and a 1000 mf cap across them, on the supply side. I
then use a transistor to control 'em and I have absolutely no noise
whatsoever using this scheme. 

I suspect part of the problem is that most people forget to treat both
supply lines and noise gets introduced due to ground loops and stray currents.

Ken


The Micor supply and repeater are well filtered, better than most.
Where the problem lies is folks using an Astron and the capacitance
isn't big enough or the equipment is more susceptible.

Kevin














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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fan audio

2004-04-10 Thread Paul Guello



Thanks, this makes sense to me, I'll try it. 
It is a portable repeater so I would like the fan to run off of the same DC supply as the rest of the rig. PaulKen Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 02:22 PM 4/9/2004 -0400, you wrote:Either run AC fans or use a different power supply than the one running your repeater to power those DC ones---I'm running two 12 Vdc fans in my Micor repeater. I use a 200 uh chokein each lead (+  -) and a 1000 mf cap across them, on the supply side. Ithen use a transistor to control 'em and I have absolutely no noisewhatsoever using this scheme. I suspect part of the problem is that most people forget to treat bothsupply lines and noise gets introduced due to ground loops and stray currents.Ken--President and CTO - Arcom CommunicationsMakers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.htmlAH6LE/R - IRLP Node
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fan audio

2004-04-10 Thread Adam T. Cately
   On running DC fans on repeater projects - half of the problem-childs
I have seen are noise super-imposed on the DC lines, and half are radiated
noise caused by cheap brush or brushless fans found at the swaps.  I use
220 AC fans run on 110, and they seem to work just fine... 

   - Adam - 

   

  





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fan audio

2004-04-09 Thread Kevin Custer


Paul Guello wrote:

 I put a dc fan on the portable repeater and now I get a slight buz on 
 the audio.  Anybody have any idea how to get rid of the buz?  I tried 
 putting a capacitor across it and an inductor in series, do I need a 
 larger inductor?


Either run AC fans or use a different power supply than the one running 
your repeater to power those DC ones

Kevin






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fan audio

2004-04-09 Thread Ken Arck
At 02:22 PM 4/9/2004 -0400, you wrote:

Either run AC fans or use a different power supply than the one running 
your repeater to power those DC ones

---I'm running two 12 Vdc fans in my Micor repeater. I use a 200 uh choke
in each lead (+  -) and a 1000 mf cap across them, on the supply side. I
then use a transistor to control 'em and I have absolutely no noise
whatsoever using this scheme. 

I suspect part of the problem is that most people forget to treat both
supply lines and noise gets introduced due to ground loops and stray currents.

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fan audio

2004-04-09 Thread Brent
I agree with Ken about most forget to treat both the + and the - lines  i
use the same setup a 200uh choke in each lead, but i have two 470uf caps
across them .. and i  have had no noise at all
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fan audio


 At 02:22 PM 4/9/2004 -0400, you wrote:

 Either run AC fans or use a different power supply than the one running
 your repeater to power those DC ones

 ---I'm running two 12 Vdc fans in my Micor repeater. I use a 200 uh choke
 in each lead (+  -) and a 1000 mf cap across them, on the supply side. I
 then use a transistor to control 'em and I have absolutely no noise
 whatsoever using this scheme.

 I suspect part of the problem is that most people forget to treat both
 supply lines and noise gets introduced due to ground loops and stray
currents.

 Ken
 --

 President and CTO - Arcom Communications
 Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.
 http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
 http://www.irlp.net





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