Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building repeater....

2006-01-11 Thread Milan Pavlica YU7XW
Dave VanHorn wrote:

 You've got a big project there.
 What is it exactly that you're looking to learn?

I need som good reference about passive filters. I have Eagleware Genesys
software, but everything i simulate i do not get so much usable results.

 I'm asking, because you seem to want to take on a LOT of issues,
 which may leave you broke and discouraged in the end.

I am working in on company on servicing receivers and transceivers. I
carefully choosed concept, and i have only problem with filters
(input, passive LC filters, vith varicap diodes for adjusting)

 If I were you, I'd start off with a repeater controller, a relatively
 straightforward firmware project with a little hardware interfacing.
 I'd use existing radio hardware for that section.

As i said, i have something finished for PIC micro... In my company,
where i work, programmers use atmel, but it is all the same.

 Then I might try my hand at a transmitter design, and learn just how
 critical things are, and all the ways that a transmitter can get you
 into trouble. :)

OK, i would send you schematic for transmitter, so u could give me advice
- did i or did i not designed it well...

 Receiver design is another bunch of fun, and repeaters have some
 issues that are especially important with regards to how large
 undesired signals affect it.

I know that. I have finished 80% of receiver, only input filter (without
diplexer) is problematic also cna drop you schematic

 I've done a simple repeater controller in an Atmel Tiny-11 ($0.25),
 using only it's 32 registers and small rom. (no ram in this part)
 Out of that I was able to get COR debounce, kerchunk filtering,
 timeout timer, ID timer, hang timer, CWID (translating ASCII text in
 rom to CW) and multitone courtesy beep.  External hardware was a pot,
 keying transistor, and a few R's and C's. I didn't even need a
 crystal and caps since I was able to use the on-board R/C oscillator.

 Personally, I avoid the PIC, it's internal architecture makes life
 rather complicated, and it's a relatively slow machine.

Doesnt matter :)
I have some design already almost finished, so, why not use them...
I could use Tiny or Mega or any other Atmel, but i do not have need for
that...

 If you'd like to see what CAN be done, have a look at the Arcom RC-
 210 controller.  This runs on an AVR Mega-128 part.

I planed to use 16F876 or 16F877 PIC...
Regards!








 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building repeater....

2006-01-11 Thread Milan Pavlica YU7XW
Dave VanHorn wrote:

 The Amateur radio handbook, published by the ARRL in the USA, is a
 pretty good source.

I got some old CD...will take a look for a newer...

 Them's fightin' words! :)   I'm a long time Atmel AVR guy.
 I've used PICs but the banking and holes in the memory drive me
 nuts. Also the AVR does most instructions in ONE xtal clock as
 opposed to four on the PIC, and with 32 w registers (sort of) and
 vectored interrupts, it's just a LOT faster and easier to work on.

Thats OK.
I can use AVR with BASCOM, thats OK.
But i am using PIC with mikroBASIC, from Serbia (i am also from YU), so i
am using domestic product, and it is very good!
Speaking of AVR vs PIC. same as Spectrum vs Commodore etc etc etc :)

 Schematic is only half the story, PCB layout and mechanicals are just
 as important.

I know that. I have a lot of experience on PCB drafting, so i do not
expect so many problems on that side. And, shielding, of course... :)))

 I think you have a very ambitious project. Perhaps you should do a
 web site where you can post the details, I'm sure a lot of people
 will be interested.

Thats for sure... i just need to draw a oscillator and RX i finished...
will see to register a domain, and will put some details

  I planed to use 16F876 or 16F877 PIC...
 Well.. :) To each his own.

;-)







 
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