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Bug#876239: reproducible: re-deploy cbxi4a (disk failure)

2017-09-19 Thread Vagrant Cascadian 
Package: jenkins.debian.org
Severity: normal
X-Debbugs-Cc: reproducible-builds@lists.alioth.debian.org

cbxi4a-armhf-rb.debian.net had a critical disk failure.

It's been reinstalled, so the ssh keys have changed:

256 SHA256:C8nL+YAOEhjWYH2tkeoP00sfiWi4bI2ZlI400idPBqU root@cbxi4a (ECDSA)
256 SHA256:oxxy+996R6nClC9ors/Py20vsJEjN2HrGgzvhsSwKfw root@cbxi4a (ED25519)
2048 SHA256:EDUXTiDwa7/W2WAooNdHJNTJJd+GJZypCsqcJ7axLEM root@cbxi4a (RSA)

hostname, ip address, ssh port should all be the same, and it hasn't
been removed from jenkins git... so everything just needs to be
re-deployed on the new install.


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Bug#876212: reproducible: re-add armhf node ff64a

2017-09-19 Thread Vagrant Cascadian 
Package: jenkins.debian.org
Severity: normal
Tags: patch
X-Debbugs-Cc: reproducible-builds@lists.alioth.debian.org

Welcome back ff64a-armhf-rb.debian.net. Specs and fingerprints are
unchanged.

With the 4.14-rc1 kernel, the firefly-rk3399 boards have working cpufreq
support, and so the CPU can run at full speed (on most of the cores, at
least).

Branch for jenkins.debian.net "welcome-back-ff64a" available at:

  
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/users/vagrant/jenkins.debian.net.git/log/?h=welcome-back-ff64a

Hopefully everything needed to enable these is in those commits.

Thanks for maintaining jenkins!

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Re: Help to make bsh reproducible

2017-09-19 Thread Chris Lamb 
Hey Jathan,

> I just remember that after excuting grep -r php.tar.gz I edited the
> debian/rules file

I'm certain I'm missing something (!) but I'm still not sure what
your grep is meant to find?   Assuming you are finding no results,
what, exactly were you expecting to locate? :)


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Re: Help to make bsh reproducible

2017-09-19 Thread jathan 
On 18/09/17 03:02, Chris Lamb wrote:
> Hi jathan,
> 
> Thanks for working on apg in the past and thank you for taking on
> another package :)
> 
>> following the steps that I did with apg, but in the part which I
>> do a grep -r
> 
> Can you elaborate on exactly what you want (or are expecting?) to
> find with this grep?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
Hi Chris,

Thanks a lot for your kind words and your reply. I think I just was
following the same commands order expecting to have the same results of
apg for bsh, even I just remember that after excuting grep -r php.tar.gz
I edited the debian/rules file of apg adding the content I said in the
past Email. Best regards,

Jathan

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Bug#872412: marked as done (reprotest: please add user variation)

2017-09-19 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System 
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Package: reprotest
Version: 0.6.2
Severity: wishlist

reptest is missing user variation, some backends should be able to
support it.

Please also remember to vary the group while at it.

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We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
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A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
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Changed-By: Ximin Luo 
Description:
 reprotest  - Build software and check it for reproducibility.
Closes: 860428 872412
Changes:
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 .
   [ Ximin Luo ]
   * Document when one should use --diffoscope-args=--exclude-directory-metadata
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   * Add the ability to vary the user (Closes: #872412)
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   * Deprecate the --dont-vary flag, add a --vary flag for better composability.
   * Support >2 builds using the new --extra-build flag.
   * Properly sanitize artifact_pattern to avoid arbitrary shell execution.
   * Update to Standards-Version 4.1.0.
 .
   [ Mattia Rizzolo ]
   * Use https for the Format URI in debian/copyright.
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Bug#860428: marked as done (reprotest: use an existing HOME in the control build)

2017-09-19 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System 
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Package: reprotest
Version: 0.6
Severity: normal

Hi,

I was investigating why reprotest would report a reproducible build,
but still produce a different executable than when compiling directly.

After several tests (and then more) I eventually tracked it to HOME
being invariably non-existant in reprotest
(HOME=/nonexistent/first-build and HOME=/nonexistent/second-build),
while my normal compilation environment has an existing home (duh!).

This caused a subtle bug when cross-compiling with mingw and
wine-binfmt:

- existing home: ./configure attempts to run conftest.exe, wine can
  create '.wine', conftest.exe runs OK, configure assumes:
  checking whether we are cross compiling... no

- non-existing home: ./configure attempts to run conftest.exe, wine
  can't create '.wine', conftest.exe fails, configure assumes:
  checking whether we are cross compiling... yes

The respective binaries were very different notably due to a different
config.h.

(and now I understand why one should specify both --host *and* --build
when cross-compiling from autoconf ahah..)


To detect this issue, and probably others, I'd suggest making the
control build's HOME point to an existing directory.


Cheers!
Sylvain
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We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
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A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
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and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

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Changed-By: Ximin Luo 
Description:
 reprotest  - Build software and check it for reproducibility.
Closes: 860428 872412
Changes:
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 .
   [ Ximin Luo ]
   * Document when one should use --diffoscope-args=--exclude-directory-metadata
 and do this in our Debian package presets.
   * Bump diffoscope Recommends version to >= 84 to support this flag.
   * Import autopkgtest 4.4, with minimal patches.
   * Choose an existent HOME for the control build. (Closes: #860428)
   * Add the ability to vary the user (Closes: #872412)
   * Heavy refactoring to support > 2 builds.
   * Add a variation config language to be able to configure the specifics of
 different variations, and to make it easier to configure further builds.
   * Deprecate the --dont-vary flag, add a --vary flag for better composability.
   * Support >2 builds using the new --extra-build flag.
   * Properly sanitize artifact_pattern to avoid arbitrary shell execution.
   * Update to Standards-Version 4.1.0.
 .
   [ Mattia Rizzolo ]
   * Use https for the Format URI in debian/copyright.
   * Bump debhelper compat level to 10.
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   [ Santiago Torres ]
   * Abstract parts of autopkgtest to support running on non-Debian systems.
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Description:
 reprotest  - Build software and check it for reproducibility.
Closes: 860428 872412
Changes:
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 .
   [ Ximin Luo ]
   * Document when one should use --diffoscope-args=--exclude-directory-metadata
 and do this in our Debian package presets.
   * Bump diffoscope Recommends version to >= 84 to support this flag.
   * Import autopkgtest 4.4, with minimal patches.
   * Choose an existent HOME for the control build. (Closes: #860428)
   * Add the ability to vary the user (Closes: #872412)
   * Heavy refactoring to support > 2 builds.
   * Add a variation config language to be able to configure the specifics of
 different variations, and to make it easier to configure further builds.
   * Deprecate the --dont-vary flag, add a --vary flag for better composability.
   * Support >2 builds using the new --extra-build flag.
   * Properly sanitize artifact_pattern to avoid arbitrary shell execution.
   * Update to Standards-Version 4.1.0.
 .
   [ Mattia Rizzolo ]
   * Use https for the Format URI in debian/copyright.
   * Bump debhelper compat level to 10.
 .
   [ Santiago Torres ]
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Re: Bug#876055: Environment variable handling for reproducible builds

2017-09-19 Thread Ximin Luo 
Russ Allbery:
> [..]  It does mean that discovery of any new
> such environment variable would require a change to our whitelist in
> approach (3), so there would be some lag and the whitelist would become
> long over time (with a corresponding testing load).  But (3) does try to
> achieve that use case without trying to anticipate any possible
> environment variable setting.  It lets us be reactive to newly-discovered
> environment variables across which we want to stay reproducible.
> 

I can also see the merits in your (3) suggestion but I don't think it would be 
appropriate to hard-code the list in Policy, because it would be too hard to 
change it and then people might end up relying on a very-incomplete list and 
then do stupid stuff that was counter to the original intention of the 
discussions around the policy. It would be better to find a generic wording 
(with some examples) similar to what I suggested elsewhere.

>> Does everything in policy need to be rigorously testable?  or is it ok
>> to have Policy state the desired outcome even if we don't know how (or
>> don't have the resources) to test it fully today.
> 
> I don't think everything has to be rigorously testable, but I do think
> it's a useful canary.  If I can't test something, I start wondering
> whether that means I have problems with my underlying assumptions.
> 
> [..]

The "strict" interpretation is in principle testable though - we just have to 
collect enough environment variables and decide which category they fall under, 
and add that logic to our build tools.

I think in these early days, it would be fine for public package builders and 
reproducibility testers to do (3) as you suggested, i.e. 

- clean the environment
- set certain variables to a fixed value (the "whitelist") and record these in 
buildinfo

This "loose" interpretation of reproducibility still gives us some useful 
results, as well as testable reproducibility for end users, but as I said I 
don't think this should be Policy since the whitelist should be expanding quite 
quickly especially early on.

OTOH, developer reproducibility checkers (such as reprotest) can be a little 
bit more strict. I can imagine something like:

- reprotest runs 3 builds:
  - build 0 with current env
  - build 1 with current env + varying some "blacklist" envvars
  - build 2 with current env + varying some "non-whitelist" envvars

If there are differences between build 1 and build 2, then reprotest reports 
"unexpected envvar $XXX affected the build" and the developer can then either 
submit it for inclusion on the "whitelist" or the "blacklist" based on the 
Policy wording. If it ends up on the blacklist then they would also have to fix 
their own package to be invariant under that envvar.

So over time, this way we can build up a blacklist and a whitelist. But it 
shouldn't be in the original policy. And I don't think what I suggested above 
is a particularly disruptive or surprising process, especially since the 
"public" builders would only do the "looser" interpretation so people aren't 
bothered by bogus "unreproducible" reports.

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Re: Bug#876055: Environment variable handling for reproducible builds

2017-09-19 Thread Ximin Luo 
Simon McVittie:
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 at 18:00:51 -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
>> [..]
>>
>> I consider unintended variables that affect the build output a bug, and
>> variables designed and intended to change the behavior of the toolchain
>> expected, reasonable behavior.
> 
> There is a *huge* number of variables that are intended to change
> behaviour, and may or may not affect the behaviour of this specific
> package. Which of your categories are these in?
> 
> For example, basically any well-behaved programming language or
> programming-language-like environment has an equivalent of PYTHONPATH,
> PERL5LIB, PKG_CONFIG_PATH and similar variables, [..]
> 
> Similarly, there is an intractably huge number of environment variables
> that can affect the result of Automake and make. Do you know about all
> of them? Including RM, PC, AR, LOADLIBES (and those are just for make's
> implicit rules)? [..]
> 

I agree with this and this matches my own thoughts back in:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=844431#324
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=844431#369

> I think the assumption has to be that every environment variable is
> potentially intended to affect the build unless otherwise stated [..]
> [..] It would be most useful if we were to identify a
> restricted subset of environment variables for which there is consensus
> that the variable is meant to be merely user preference and shouldn't
> affect the build [..]
> 
> Perhaps those variables should be a whitelist, or perhaps there is
> some wording for Policy that would identify them while excluding the
> legitimately build-affecting ones - but either way I think the
> assumption should be "there is a limited subset of environment
> variables that are required to preserve reproducibility when varied,
> and the rest are uninteresting".
> 

These variables shouldn't be a whitelist because different buildsystems all the 
time can invent their own variables to affect themselves. We can't really 
"predict" something like PERL5LIB.

However, neither should it be a blacklist because different run-time programs 
invent their own variables all the time to affect themselves, but in a way that 
really should not affect build processes. I have to set LANG=XX.YY in my user 
environment, that doesn't mean that all my builds should run differently from 
people in other countries.

Therefore, I think it is better to try to reach some wording for Policy that 
communicates *intent*. Then, tools like dpkg-buildflag can have their own 
envvars that they force-set, which would be a subset of the ones allowed by 
Policy. Tools like reprotest can vary certain envvars that are "obviously" 
shouldn't affect the build like LC_ALL, USER, etc. Then in the middle there 
will be certain variables like RM and AR that could affect the build, which 
should be clear by Policy wording, but are too cumbersome to have 
dpkg-buildpackage try to enumerate a full whitelist and force-set them to a 
fixed value.

Interpreter variables like PER5LIB and PYTHONPATH we would have to assume fall 
in the first category ("they are allowed to affect the build output") even 
though arguably they are also "run-time variables" because they are very tied 
to the interpreter and probably only developers really want to set the for 
specific purposes.

So let's throw some wording out there already. To quote my earlier proposal:

> I would suggest amending:
> 
> - a set of environment variable values; and
> + a set of reserved environment variable values; and
> 
> then later:
> 
> + A "reserved" environment variable is defined as DEB_*, DPKG_*, 
> SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH, BUILD_PATH_PREFIX_MAP, variables listed by dpkg-buildflags 
> and other variables explicitly used by buildsystems to affect build output, 
> excluding any variables used by non-build programs to affect their behaviour. 
> Explicitly, this excludes TERM, HOME, LOGNAME, USER [..]

(The last time I erroneously included PATH in the final "excluded" list - 
because we have varied PATH but in a really trivial way on tests.r-b.org for 
ages - but I now agree with you that we shouldn't expect reproducibility when 
PATH is varied.)

My reasoning, as echoed by others on this thread already, was:

> some other variables are used by non-build tools, such as LC_*, USER, etc. 
> Since they affect non-build programs, they possibly may be set in a 
> developer's normal environment, so just running "debian/rules build" will 
> pick these up. Then, the build should stay the same despite these other 
> variables.

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