Re: Backup renders ASIP server mute, deaf
Subject: Backup renders ASIP server mute, deaf From: "Andrew Tomlinson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:45:55 -0400 I have experienced the exact same problem backing up a G4 ASIP server. I put a Kingston KNE110 Ethernet card in my backup Mac to increase throughput, Everything worked fine apart from when backing up the ASIP server, when the problems Andrew stated appeared every time I tried to back it up. Dantz tech support have offered a troubleshooting approach working from the reported 519 error, which I am working through. But, via the AppleshareIP mailing list I have found the following snippet (more at http://homepage.mac.com/suinn/ASIPBlackMagic.html) courtesy Brad Suinn, an Apple person (I think) with a close involvement in ASIP: Large File copies over 100Mbit getting stuck. ASIP File Server getting "hung/frozen/etc", but other services like Web work... AFP/TCP freezing under heavy load, but AFP/ATalk still works - */ Seems to be related to "OT Auto Push Support" extension in your system folder. This extension is used for the TCP Filtering, but note that TCP filtering does not actually have to be in use, just the presence of that extension is enough. 1) Remove the "OT Auto Push Support" extension from the system folder. 2) Restart your server. 3) This will totally disable TCP filtering which is a bummer. 4) Maybe try www.opendoor.com for a better TCP filter? The OT Auto Push Support extension does seem to be a casause of some concern in a number of forums that I listen in to. And the discussion of the type of problems it can cause seems to mirror quite closely what I, and others have experienced when backing up ASIP servers. I am still working through the troubleshooting process (which is slow as I still need to keep the server working each day to support our users), but if I find anything I will try to report it here. Regards Graham Our backup script in Retrospect ran beautifully for a month, but now fails every time. Here's the situation: 1. Two ASIP servers (G3, G4) plugged into same Asante dumb 10BT hub. Retrospect runs on the G3 w/SCSI card and APS DDS-3 tape backup. Apple System Profiler reports both servers running at 10Mbps, Half Duplex. 2. Backups of the local HD (G3) work fine, and there are never problems with the G3 server. 3. Backups of the G4 via Retrospect network client go part way, backing up some files, then fail as the G4 suddenly becomes mute and deaf. Retrospect does a "Net Retry," then aborts the backup when it fails to find the G4. 4. The G4 does not crash. MOSSA indicates it is still serving via Appletalk, TCP, etc. File server can be stopped, restarted via MOSSA; Mac OS Server Admin Agent can be quit, re-run; file server can be stopped, Appletalk turned off/on, file service restarted. Nevertheless, the G4 can no longer see anything on the network (via Chooser) nor be seen by anything on the network. Only a reboot of the machine restores network function. 5. Retrospect log reports "519" error for the G4 backup. From reading through the archives, I gather that I should be looking for flaws in the network hardware, but I don't really know where to start. Everything else about these servers is runnning just fine. -- Andrew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham Mitchell Total Coverage Limited the co-operative design consultancy T: 023 8067 8330 F: 023 8067 8340 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.totalcoverage.co.uk -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: retrospect and filemaker
what's the suggested route when not using FM Server? I use a standard copy of FileMaker sitting on my ASIP server to run a set of database files which five or so users make use of. Should I be tinkering with Applescripts or somesuch to close the database files prior to back up? Subject: Re: retrospect and filemaker From: "Todd Williams" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:55:32 -0700 That's the only way to do it correctly. At 12:14 PM -0700 3/10/00, Todd Reed wrote: I figure that if I have 'verify' turned on, and the log doesn't indicate a problem that the database files are getting backed up okay. Is this the experience of the list, or should I be practicing preventive paranoia? FileMaker Server keeps a lot of data in a RAM cache. Even if the database is backed up by Retrospect without errors, I am not sure that guarantees that the file will be in a known good state. I recommend preventive paranoia, have FileMaker perform database copies using its internal scheduling, and use Retrospect to backup the copies. -- John Gee[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dunedin, New ZealandProgrammers live in interesting times... Graham Mitchell Total Coverage Limited the co-operative design consultancy T: 023 8067 8330 F: 023 8067 8340 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.totalcoverage.co.uk -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Advice requested: tape system
Hi I've been using Retrospect very successfully for some while now, backing up our small Mac LAN to recordable CDs. However our company has grown some over time and the use of CD-R is no longer a real option as it takes too long to do a full backup of the 30GB or so of data on the LAN. I am therefore looking for an economical, reliable tape based solution that can handle the job. There seem to be many different ysstems available on the market, but rather than wade through a pile of manufacturer misinformation I thought I would come straight to the horse's mouth, so to speak. What works? Any help or pointers that fellow list-users might be able to offer will be gratefully received. Regards Graham Graham Mitchell Total Coverage Limited the co-operative design consultancy T: 023 8067 8330 F: 023 8067 8340 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.totalcoverage.co.uk -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ASIP 6.3 oddity
I've noticed that on a number of occasions when backing up my ASIP server (6.3.1) from another Mac, any connected users get shut out, although the server continues to work and the backup proceeds without a problem. What's happening? any advice gratefully received. Regards Graham Graham Mitchell Total Coverage Limited the co-operative design consultancy T: 023 8067 8330 F: 023 8067 8340 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.totalcoverage.co.uk -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: retro-talk #660 - 07/18/00
On Wed, Jul 19, 2000, 4:00:04 am retro-talk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: retro-talk #660 - Tuesday, July 18, 2000 Dantz Website / Update? I did not receive an announcement of this update. I heard about it from TidBits. Did Dantz make an announcement to users? Graham Mitchell Total Coverage Limited the co-operative design consultancy T: 023 8067 8330 F: 023 8067 8340 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.totalcoverage.co.uk -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
