RE: retrospect exclude selector bug?

[Thone, Bradley A (Swbt)]

In the exclusions selection, you probably want to say "Enclosing Folder Name
Matches Nobackup".

They key would be the "enclosing folder" part.

Alternatively, you could probably match against the "folder path" to exclude
everything under a certain path.

Brad.

-Original Message-
From: Stefan Jeglinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 3:00 PM
To: retro-talk
Subject: retrospect exclude selector bug?


I have a directory structure that looks like this (on a disk that is 
being backed up):

nobackup
|
+---cdarchive
|
+---folder1
+---folder2
+---folder3
   .
   .
   .

Each folder# contains a variety of files, and some have even more 
subfolders etc.


 From the Retrospect main window, I select "Create, Modify, and 
Schedule Scripts" and then I choose the [only] backup script that we 
use, and edit it. I get the window that allows me to specify sources, 
etc. In this window I choose "Selecting" to get a new window that 
specifies and allows me to define the inclusion and exclusion rules. 
The inclusions are "all" and one of the exclusion rules says "or 
matching folder name contains nobackup." The other exclusions have 
nothing to do with "nobackup," being just the usual bullet exclusions.

So far so good, I am trying to exclude the entire nobackup directory 
because I'm going to archive it to CD when it gets large enough, and 
now we're all on the same page.

After I back up to tape (no errors), I go merrily trying to see what 
got backed up. I happen to do this by attempting to restore files, 
first searching for them and marking them for retrieval.

When I search for a folder named "nobackup" it finds nothing (zero, 
nada, zilch). I agree.

When I search for "cdarchive" it finds a 1K icon file as the sole 
item in the folder called "cdarchive." Not sure why but no big deal.

When I search in each folder#, it finds nothing in certain ones, a 1K 
icon in others, BUT in SOME of them it finds every file. IOW, some of 
my files have been being backed up when they are not supposed to be.

What's wrong here? My boss is mad because I keep having to use 2 
tapes when one should easily do, because to my chagrin I'm backing up 
[large] excluded files. Looks like a bug to me but I will entertain 
better explanations. I found nothing in the manual that might solve 
this.


Stefan Jeglinski


Note: the subfolders are not literally named "folder#." I just used 
that to make the description clearer. The actual folder names are not 
unusual and do not contain weird characters.


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RE: retro for a small windows set-up

[Thone, Bradley A (Swbt)]

Are they not the cases that:

If Retrospect supports the device, Dantz has a built-in driver for it, and
no MFR driver is needed?

If Retrospect does not support the device, then no MFR driver will enable
Retrospect to use the device?

Brad.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 1:13 PM
To: retro-talk
Subject: Re: retro for a small windows set-up


Hi,

For such a small backup, I think DAT might be a bit expensive.  Just my
$0.02.  Also, I think that zip disks would be more reliable, but who knows -
luckily(?) retrospect is very good at error checking, so you only need to
worry
about media failure after backup.  For 600MB, why not look at a JAZ drive
or an ORB drive?  They are much cheaper than DAT, and backups would be
much faster.  Unless they plan on archiving a lot of backups in a file
cabinet, a removable drive is a good way to go - but if you want to have
10 separate backup sets in a file cabinet, the cost goes up as disks are
no where near as cheap as tapes.  I suggest a JAZ or ORB rather than a ZIP
to avoid frequent media swaps.  I do this on 1 PC in my lab.

I'd stick to SCSI or IDE if either is an option - using parallel ports is
*way* slow.  In general parallel ports cannot be daisy chained, except for
junk like dongles, and Iomega Zip drives that are specially designed to go
in between your computer and printer.  I've heard some bad stories about how
well this works, so I'd personally only do it as a last resort.

For drivers, the answer is "it depends".  Win 9x and NT have an assortment
of standard drivers included, but often they are missing the ones you want,
or the ones included are old or brain-dead.  Usually it is a good idea to
load the drive MFRs most recent drivers; some MFRs even have drivers that
are certified by microsoft, though those are often not the most recent ones.

-Andy Cook

>Pardon the naive question, but I am trying to provide a 
>recommendation for a small company. I'm used to Retro on the Mac and 
>backup a network to DLT, so I am a bit ignorant here.
>
>The company needs a simple small non-networked backup solution (one 
>single PC), for the least amount of money (I know I know...). Of 
>course I am suggesting Retrospect, but I don't know of a suggestion 
>for a backup device. They wanted to just use a zip, but I am at 
>least recommending something more reliable than that.
>
>For their light backup needs, I am thinking of just going with a 
>lowly DAT drive with a lot of redundancy. Can anyone recommend one 
>for a Pentium 100 with 16Meg running 98SE? Does one typically attach 
>such a thing to a parallel port? The machine already has 2 printers 
>connected to 2 physical parallel ports. Can one gang parallel ports 
>a la SCSI?
>
>Although the amount to be backed up is not large (one small hard 
>drive, maybe 600MB), I am leaning toward DAT because the company 
>personnel are very technology disinclined, and something like a CDR 
>*will* scare them. Buying a Mac and backing up over a network is 
>totally out of the question ("what's a network?"). They have an 
>ancient tape drive that they used to run on Win3.1 before they were 
>forced to upgrade to 98SE. I don't think they ever have known if 
>they were -really- backing anything up, but they like the idea of 
>tape because it is familiar to them. What they have may actually be 
>a DAT drive (I haven't seen it yet), but they want to buy a new one.
>
>On Windows, does one have to install a separate driver for a backup 
>drive from the drive's manufacturer, or does Retro alone take care 
>of that?
>
>
>Stefan Jeglinski
>
>
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RE: Windows clients not responding after a time

[Thone, Bradley A (Swbt)]

Yup.

-Original Message-
From: Rees Griffiths [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 12:34 AM
To: retro-talk
Subject: Windows clients not responding after a time


 Dear All,

We have found that on several Windows 95 and 98 computers that I can install
the client and all is well when the machine is first booted.  However after
sometime the Retrospect client will no longer respond to backup or
configuration requests.  I have not been able to isolate the problem to some
other program etc.  Has anybody else seen similar problems?

Cheers
Rees

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