RE: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC

2000-02-29 Thread Thone, Bradley A (Sbcsi) 

It's ALL good. Give us everything. ;-)

Brad.

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>
> I hope Retro will be able to tell a CLIENT to do something (like run a
batch
> file). That would be REALLY helpful if I could turn off virus software to
> speed the client up...

... or tell a client to exit Outlook 2000 (since the other versions will
back up
cleanly)...

That would be good, wouldn't it? :-)

Stay tuned.

Craig



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RE: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC

2000-02-29 Thread Craig Isaacs 



>
> I hope Retro will be able to tell a CLIENT to do something (like run a batch
> file). That would be REALLY helpful if I could turn off virus software to
> speed the client up...

... or tell a client to exit Outlook 2000 (since the other versions will back up
cleanly)...

That would be good, wouldn't it? :-)

Stay tuned.

Craig



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RE: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC

2000-02-29 Thread Thone, Bradley A (Sbcsi) 

I hope Retro will be able to tell a CLIENT to do something (like run a batch
file). That would be REALLY helpful if I could turn off virus software to
speed the client up...

Brad.

-Original Message-
From: Craig Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 9:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC



"Very soon now" Retrospect will be able to do an action before a volume is
backed
up and then another action after the volume is backed up.

You could use that feature to stop a database, do the backup, and then start
the
database back up.

Craig

(Of course, this list will be the first to hear about new product
announcements.
This isn't one -- yet.)



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Re: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC

2000-02-28 Thread Malcolm McLeary 

Hi Aaron,

on 2/25/2000 4:33 PM, Aaron Kopel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> I am wanting to back up FileMaker Pro 5 databases that are hosted on
> a WINNT machine. I was curious as to some other people's strategies.
> I am running into the "file open" problem. We are using retrospect 4.2

I note that you specifically use the term "hosted" instead of "served".
>From this I assume you are simply using FMP in "host" mode and not FMP
Server to serve your databases.

Even for a small workgroup, FMP Server is worth the investment.  One of the
nice features of FMP Server is that from a simple command procedure you can
tell FMP Server to pause, then xcopy the databases to another directory,
then tell FMP Server to resume.

Restrospect can then backup the "copy" instead of the open files.

I use the NT Scheduler to execute the script some period before Retrospect
runs.

If you are using WinNT Workstation instead of WinNT Server be a little
careful shutting down or restarting the machine.  From my experience WinNT
Workstation does not stop services correctly ... has the same impact as
having FMP Server crash.

Cheers,  Malcolm

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RE: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC

2000-02-28 Thread Craig Isaacs 


"Very soon now" Retrospect will be able to do an action before a volume is backed
up and then another action after the volume is backed up.

You could use that feature to stop a database, do the backup, and then start the
database back up.

Craig

(Of course, this list will be the first to hear about new product announcements.
This isn't one -- yet.)



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Re: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC

2000-02-28 Thread Greg Jewett 

You will need a program from several different vendors that scheduled 
scripts are different of repeat intervals.  We are using "Script 
Scheduler".  It seems to be working quite well.

..Greg

At 4:12 PM -0700 2/25/00, Jon Gardner wrote:
>on 2/25/2000 4:33 PM, Aaron Kopel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>  I am wanting to back up FileMaker Pro 5 databases that are hosted on
>>  a WINNT machine. I was curious as to some other people's strategies.
>>  I am running into the "file open" problem. We are using retrospect 4.2
>
>Set up a server script in FileMaker Pro to backup the databases just before
>the Retrospect backup is supposed to happen. Retro will be able to read the
>backup files, since they won't be open.
>
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>Texas A&M University Dept. of Food Services 
>Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860
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Re: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC

2000-02-25 Thread Matthew Tevenan 

Adam's right--St. Bernard's Open File Manager may be an option for some.
However, Open File Manager only works with Retrospect 5.0 for Windows, not
Retrospect 4.2 for Macintosh.

Matthew Tevenan
Technical Support Specialist
Dantz Development Corporation
925.253.3050 
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> From: "Adam Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:13:43 -0500
> To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: RE: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC
> 
> Another option is to use a product called Open File Manager from St Bernard
> Software (www.stbernard.com).  Backs up all open files no matter what they
> are.  OFM assentially takes a snapshop of the open file/s then deletes the
> snapshot after they are backup up.  This product even can backup the NT SAM
> files and an Exchange Post Office while open.  It works very well and takes
> little resources.
> 
> I use it with all my NT Servers.  In my office we run a Filemaker 5 database
> for customer tracking and billing.  OFM handles it with no problem.  So nice
> not to worry that a database or any other file is open.
> 
> Version 6.2 of OFM does work with Retrospect.
> 
> Adam Cohen
> 
> Adam Cohen
> President
> CyberDoctors, Inc.
> 47 Maple Street
> Suite 103
> Burlington  VT  05401
> (802) 860-2430
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of Jon Gardner
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 6:11 PM
> To: retro-talk
> Subject: Re: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC
> 
> 
> on 2/25/2000 4:33 PM, Aaron Kopel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> I am wanting to back up FileMaker Pro 5 databases that are hosted on
>> a WINNT machine. I was curious as to some other people's strategies.
>> I am running into the "file open" problem. We are using retrospect 4.2
> 
> Set up a server script in FileMaker Pro to backup the databases just before
> the Retrospect backup is supposed to happen. Retro will be able to read the
> backup files, since they won't be open.
> 
> <><
> Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Texas A&M University Dept. of Food Services <http://food.tamu.edu/>
> Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860
> PGP public key available at <http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html>
> 
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RE: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC

2000-02-25 Thread Adam Cohen 

Another option is to use a product called Open File Manager from St Bernard
Software (www.stbernard.com).  Backs up all open files no matter what they
are.  OFM assentially takes a snapshop of the open file/s then deletes the
snapshot after they are backup up.  This product even can backup the NT SAM
files and an Exchange Post Office while open.  It works very well and takes
little resources.

I use it with all my NT Servers.  In my office we run a Filemaker 5 database
for customer tracking and billing.  OFM handles it with no problem.  So nice
not to worry that a database or any other file is open.

Version 6.2 of OFM does work with Retrospect.

Adam Cohen

Adam Cohen
President
CyberDoctors, Inc.
47 Maple Street
Suite 103
Burlington  VT  05401
(802) 860-2430

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.cyber-doctors.com





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Of Jon Gardner
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 6:11 PM
To: retro-talk
Subject: Re: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC


on 2/25/2000 4:33 PM, Aaron Kopel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am wanting to back up FileMaker Pro 5 databases that are hosted on
> a WINNT machine. I was curious as to some other people's strategies.
> I am running into the "file open" problem. We are using retrospect 4.2

Set up a server script in FileMaker Pro to backup the databases just before
the Retrospect backup is supposed to happen. Retro will be able to read the
backup files, since they won't be open.

<><
Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Texas A&M University Dept. of Food Services <http://food.tamu.edu/>
Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860
PGP public key available at <http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html>





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Re: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC

2000-02-25 Thread Jon Gardner 

on 2/25/2000 4:33 PM, Aaron Kopel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am wanting to back up FileMaker Pro 5 databases that are hosted on
> a WINNT machine. I was curious as to some other people's strategies.
> I am running into the "file open" problem. We are using retrospect 4.2

Set up a server script in FileMaker Pro to backup the databases just before
the Retrospect backup is supposed to happen. Retro will be able to read the
backup files, since they won't be open.

<><
Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager 
Texas A&M University Dept. of Food Services 
Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860
PGP public key available at 





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