RE: Full proof

2006-07-11 Thread kychung
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Full proof

2006-07-11 Thread smita . thosar

Dear all,

Does anybody know about the program Full proof used for refinement?

Will you please give details about this.

Thanks





 Smita Thosar



RE: CIF format for powder work

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CIF format for powder work

2006-07-11 Thread Whitfield, Pamela


Afternoon all
 
After spending over 2 days making up a single file, I'd like to hear some other opinions on the practical aspects of CIF files for structures from powder data.  This is partly a moan from trying to get a 11000 line file to pass the CheckCIF when all of the items it complains about are actually there from what I can tell.  Although optimizing data collection using VCT-type approaches is nice from a statistics point of view, it's absolute hell when it comes to creating the CIF file, and multiple phases just piles on the grief.  I almost wish I hadn't bothered with the internal standard.
 
Is there something a little wierd when the only powder program that outputs reasonably detailed CIF files is GSAS?  Editing these things by hand is a complete pain in the *!   I think I've spent longer creating the CIF file than I did to index, solve and refine the structure.
 
I'm sure that a number of you will have thoughts on the matter!   :-)
 
Roll on weekend.
 
Pam

Re: Jmol

2006-07-11 Thread Alan Hewat

>I run the page http://icsd.ill.fr/icsd/help/CIF-help.html and all work fine
>and I get the structure of YBaCuO superconductor, but i didn't understand
>how to change the .cif file, for example one saved on my hard disk.

Gianluigi, you can display any CIF file in ICSD using the search form eg
http://icsd.ill.fr/icsd/index.php?action=Search&elements=cu+o+h&elementc=5 
Click on the Demo option in the log-in box, and then on any of the 
"Struct.Formula". 

This ICSD interface was designed to display CIF files in the database, not your 
own CIF files, but I will see if I can implement that.

Alan.

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Re: Jmol

2006-07-11 Thread gianluigi . marra
Dear Alan

excuse me if I ask you for your help but I still have problems with Jmol. I
run the page http://icsd.ill.fr/icsd/help/CIF-help.html and all work fine
and I get the structure of YBaCuO superconductor, but i didn't understand
how to change the .cif file, for example one saved on my hard disk. I tried
to open a .cif file directy with the internet browser but what I get is an
opening with the notes editor  of the ascii content.

Could you give me any hints, please?

Cheers Gianluigi

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Re: Jmol and automatic drawing of co-ordination polyhedrae

2006-07-11 Thread Alan Hewat
Robert O. Gould wrote:
>One polyhedron, two polyhedra, what's a polyhedrae when it's at home?

Oh dear, I hope you are not going to start another "cognoscenti" debate Bob. I 
don't use "polyhedron" in crystallography because by definition a crystal 
lattice does not contain a single polyhedron, but various types of polyhedra. I 
use "polyhedrae" to mean the family of all such polyhedra. I wanted to make the 
specific point that although it may be easy to construct individual polyhedra, 
such as a network of SiO4, it is useful to automatically construct all types of 
polyhedra in an arbitrary structure.

If we were to insist on strict declension rules, we would still be writing 
Latin, rather than various flavours (flavors?) of English.

Alan. 
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