RE: Preferred orientation?

2008-05-07 Thread May, Frank
You can check for texture effects (preferred orientation) by obtaining multiple 
patterns of the material.  It's realistic to expect some differences, but 
preferred orientation is manifest by not being able to replicate the pattern.
 
That's the simple test.  Let us know what you find.
 
Another issue for "improper intensities" is when the specimen is not 
sufficiently wide enough at low angles (typically below 20-degrees 2-Theta with 
copper radiation) and the x-ray beam does not fully impinge on the specimen.  
The observed reflections in the low angle region will be less than calculated 
by a modelling program.
 
Frank May
Research Investigator
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
University of Missouri - St. Louis
One University Boulevard
St. Louis, Missouri  63121-4499
 
314-516-5098



From: Gerard, Garcia S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 5/7/2008 8:57 AM
To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
Subject: Preferred orientation?



Dear all,

I have a laboratory Bragg-Brentano X-ray (Cu) pattern that shows intensity 
mismatches only at low angles, ie 20-50 2theta or 1.8 to 4 Angstroms.
There are overestimated peaks and also underestimated peaks.I have tried to 
discard factors that might cause this problem:

The thermal parameters look sensible. Moreover, the data at high angle looks 
ok, so intensity transfer from low angle to high angle or vice versa does not 
seem to be the cause.

Atomic positions also look sensible. And again, data at high angle looks ok. Is 
the scattering angle dependence of the atomic positions the same as for the 
thermal parameters? (I cannot remember that, but i am pretty sure it is not).

Following the advice published in J. Appl. Cryst. 32, 36 (1999), the other 
factor that might cause this problem is preferred orientation:
I have tried to find a hkl dependence in the overestimated and underestimated 
peaks but i could not find any. If i try to model preferred orientation with 
spherical harmonics the problems disappears nicely. The problem is how to 
justify the existence of preferred orientation. The crystal system is 
orthorhombic. But i have no other information that supports the existence of 
preferred orientation.

Is there any other problem that I cannot think of?Is the preferred orientation 
correction masking any of these other problems I cannot think of?

Regards

Gerard





Heriot-Watt University is a Scottish charity registered under charity number 
SC000278. 




Re: Article

2008-05-07 Thread Alan Hewat
José Carlos Cordeiro said:
> I would like to get the article:
> "Polymorphism of tricalcium silicate in Portland cement: a fast visual
> identification of structure and superstructure"

This 2003 Powder Diffraction article is available from ICDD on-line for
those with a subscription at:
http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&id=PODIE218010701&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes
__
Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics, Grenoble, FRANCE
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +33.476.98.41.68
  http://www.NeutronOptics.com/hewat
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Article

2008-05-07 Thread José Carlos Cordeiro
I would like to get the article:

 

"Polymorphism of tricalcium silicate in Portland cement: a fast visual 
identification of structure and superstructure"

 

I search this article in the Internet but without success, can anybody help me??

 

thanks

 

===

José Carlos Cordeiro

Votorantim Cements

Brazil 

===

 



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Re: Preferred orientation?

2008-05-07 Thread Yaroslav Filinchuk, SNBL at ESRF
Dear Gerard,

The low-angle intensity problem might come from disordered
regions, like water or solvent molecules occupying some voids.
Also, poor modeling of weakly scattering atoms, like hydrogen,
may lead to the similar problem.

Best regards,
 Yaroslav

http://filinchuk.com

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Dear all,

I have a laboratory Bragg-Brentano X-ray (Cu) pattern that shows intensity 
mismatches only at low angles, ie 20-50 2theta or 1.8 to 4 Angstroms.
There are overestimated peaks and also underestimated peaks.I have tried to 
discard factors that might cause this problem:

The thermal parameters look sensible. Moreover, the data at high angle looks 
ok, so intensity transfer from low angle to high angle or vice versa does not 
seem to be the cause.

Atomic positions also look sensible. And again, data at high angle looks ok. Is 
the scattering angle dependence of the atomic positions the same as for the 
thermal parameters? (I cannot remember that, but i am pretty sure it is not). 

Following the advice published in J. Appl. Cryst. 32, 36 (1999), the other 
factor that might cause this problem is preferred orientation:
I have tried to find a hkl dependence in the overestimated and underestimated 
peaks but i could not find any. If i try to model preferred orientation with 
spherical harmonics the problems disappears nicely. The problem is how to 
justify the existence of preferred orientation. The crystal system is 
orthorhombic. But i have no other information that supports the existence of 
preferred orientation.

Is there any other problem that I cannot think of?Is the preferred orientation 
correction masking any of these other problems I cannot think of?

Regards

Gerard


-- 
Heriot-Watt University is a Scottish charity
registered under charity number SC000278.


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Preferred orientation?

2008-05-07 Thread Gerard, Garcia S
Dear all,

I have a laboratory Bragg-Brentano X-ray (Cu) pattern that shows intensity 
mismatches only at low angles, ie 20-50 2theta or 1.8 to 4 Angstroms.
There are overestimated peaks and also underestimated peaks.I have tried to 
discard factors that might cause this problem:

The thermal parameters look sensible. Moreover, the data at high angle looks 
ok, so intensity transfer from low angle to high angle or vice versa does not 
seem to be the cause.

Atomic positions also look sensible. And again, data at high angle looks ok. Is 
the scattering angle dependence of the atomic positions the same as for the 
thermal parameters? (I cannot remember that, but i am pretty sure it is not). 

Following the advice published in J. Appl. Cryst. 32, 36 (1999), the other 
factor that might cause this problem is preferred orientation:
I have tried to find a hkl dependence in the overestimated and underestimated 
peaks but i could not find any. If i try to model preferred orientation with 
spherical harmonics the problems disappears nicely. The problem is how to 
justify the existence of preferred orientation. The crystal system is 
orthorhombic. But i have no other information that supports the existence of 
preferred orientation.

Is there any other problem that I cannot think of?Is the preferred orientation 
correction masking any of these other problems I cannot think of?

Regards

Gerard


-- 
Heriot-Watt University is a Scottish charity
registered under charity number SC000278.