Re: CIF for Pyrrhotite 4C

2007-02-03 Thread Alan Hewat
 Can anyone help me with a CIF file for Pyrrhotite 4C.  The CIF output
 from ICSD #42491 gives SG 15 setting F12/d1 which is not recognized by
 TOPAS.

ICSD http://icsdweb.fiz-karlsruhe.de/ also gives a more recent entry for
Fe7S8 Pyrrhotite 4C in setting C12/c1 (if you have access to the full
database). ICSD itself will draw a 3D interactive structure using Java
(Jmol) if you simply click on the formula. To construct the FeS
octahedrae, check select, select the Fe atoms with the mouse, then check
create.

Powell, A.V.;Vaqueiro, P.;Knight, K.S.;Chapon, L.C.;Sanchez, R.D. 
Structure and magnetism in synthetic pyrrhotite Fe7S8: a powder
neutron-diffraction study (2004) Phys.Rev., Serie 3.B - Condensed Matter
70, 014415-1-014415-12
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+33.476.20.72.13 (.26 Mme Guillermet) http://www.ill.fr/dif/people/hewat/
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RE: CIF for Pyrrhotite 4C

2007-02-02 Thread AlanCoelho
Hi Doug 

You can add new setting in the file SGCOM5.CPP where entries are in the form
of computer adapted symbols by Uri Shmueli, Acta Cryst. (1984). A40,
559-567.

I am probably wrong but my guess for F12/d1 is 

FMCI1A000P2D003

where I used the a+b face-diagonal rotation matrix of 2D, consistency of the
rotation operators are checked. 

The ICSD prvides a means of obtaining the equivalent positions thus you can
check if the string generated equivalent positions matches the ICSD
equivalent positions; this check is useful especially as a lot of symmetry
is redundant. 

Thus if your CIF file has equivalent positions then the job is easy.

If not then not so easy. For example, in the ICSD you will find two
distinctly different sets of equivalent positions for A12/a1 with one of
them being the standard setting.


Contact me off the list if the CIF has equivalent positions.
cheers
alan



-Original Message-
From: Allen, Douglas R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 8:02 AM
To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
Subject: CIF for Pyrrhotite 4C

Can anyone help me with a CIF file for Pyrrhotite 4C.  The CIF output
from ICSD #42491 gives SG 15 setting F12/d1 which is not recognized by
TOPAS.  I found an entry in the ICDD database from the Linus Pauling
file which shows  the setting A12/A1 but when the CIF file is exported
the same unrecognizable F12/d1 appears.  How can I convert this CIF file
to something that does not crash TOPAS.

Doug Allen
Phelps Dodge Process Technology Center



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