Re: [Rife-users] RIFE at JavaWUG BOF XV, 3-Feb-2006, Oracle City Office, London

2006-01-31 Thread Emmanuel Okyere
Geert,

The title will be "Spring into RIFE"; I intend to do about a 7-8
minute overview covering the features, including my best,
out-of-container testing... and then using the rest of the time to
review some code.

I believe there'll be about a 5 minute Q/A after that.

Thanks,
Emmanuel

On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's the title of your talk?
>
> Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
> > Excellent; I'll make a post.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Emmanuel
> >
> > On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> You blog has been created. To add an entry, open the blog menu to the
> >> left, log in and click the appropriate menu item.
> >>
> >> Don't forget to register you blog on javablogs if you want some
> >> readership, using this RSS feed once your first post has been written:
> >> http://rifers.org/blogs/feeds/rss/entry/eokyere
> >>
> >> On 30-jan-06, at 08:44, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
> >>
> >>> Geert,
> >>>
> >>> I have registered for the blog.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Emmanuel
> >>>
> >>> On 1/30/06, Emmanuel Okyere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Geert,
> 
>  How far along are you with the 'metadata' way of adding constraints?
>  if it's in a usable state now, I could use that, otherwise, I'll
>  mention work is under way to get it done; let me know.
> 
>  Thanks,
>  Emmanuel
> 
>  On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Emmanuel,
> >
> > that's a great initiative! One suggestion I have is, if you're going
> > to show constraints, that "extends Validation" is evidently not the
> > cleanest way to do this is the model has to be container independent
> > or already exists. Work is underway to make true POJO use possible.
> > This will be done with parallel MetaData classes, ie. you Foo class
> > will have a FooMetaData and the classloader will automatically
> > detect
> > this and perform some magic to weave both together. This will be in
> > an invisible way (inner class with improbably inner variable name)
> > and be totally transparent.
> > Hardcore Java people tend to criticize the "extends Validation"
> > otherwise.
> >
> > Good luck with the presentation. It would be nice if you would blot
> > about it at rifers.org to announce it. Like that,  London people
> > that
> > are interested but not on the list, are aware of your
> > presentation too.
> >
> > To do so, you just have to register on the blog and tell me that
> > it's
> > done, I'll create a blog for you then.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Geert
> >
> > On 30-jan-06, at 05:11, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all:
> >>
> >> I have commited to giving a 10-15 minute 'quickie' about RIFE at
> >> the
> >> next Java Web User Group (javawug) meeting at the Oracle City
> >> office
> >> in London, on Feb 3, 2006. There will be other 10-15 min 'quickie'
> >> sessions on various other java webdev technologies out there; it's
> >> from 6:30pm to about 9.
> >>
> >> I think this is the address:
> >>
> >> Oracle City Office
> >> One South Place
> >> London
> >> EC2M 2RB
> >>
> >> If anyone on the list is in London, and will want to attend, I
> >> suggest
> >> sending an email to "Peter A. Pilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> as I
> >> believe there's a security list.
> >>
> >> I am going to draw on Geert's presentation at Euroscon 2005 and
> >> compile about 6-8 slides that should capture, in a nutshell, what
> >> makes RIFE compelling to develop Java web applications with; I
> >> want to
> >> round up my presentation by the close of day and send it up--if any
> >> one has any suggestions, I would really appreciate it.
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot.
> >>
> >> Emmanuel
> >> ___
> >> Rife-users mailing list
> >> Rife-users@uwyn.com
> >> http://lists.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
> >>
> > --
> > Geert Bevin   Uwyn bvba
> > "Use what you need"   Avenue de Scailmont 34
> > http://www.uwyn.com   7170 Manage, Belgium
> > gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03
> >
> > PGP Fingerprint : 4E21 6399 CD9E A384 6619  719A C8F4 D40D 309F D6A9
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> >
> >
> > ___
> > Rife-users mailing list
> > Rife-users@uwyn.com
> > http://lists.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
> >
> >>> ___
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> >>> Rife-users@uwyn.com
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> >> --
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>

Re: [Rife-users] RIFE at JavaWUG BOF XV, 3-Feb-2006, Oracle City Office, London

2006-01-31 Thread Geert Bevin

Lol, that's an ironical title ;-)

On 31-jan-06, at 08:58, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:


Geert,

The title will be "Spring into RIFE"; I intend to do about a 7-8
minute overview covering the features, including my best,
out-of-container testing... and then using the rest of the time to
review some code.

I believe there'll be about a 5 minute Q/A after that.

Thanks,
Emmanuel

On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What's the title of your talk?

Emmanuel Okyere wrote:

Excellent; I'll make a post.

Thanks,
Emmanuel

On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You blog has been created. To add an entry, open the blog menu  
to the

left, log in and click the appropriate menu item.

Don't forget to register you blog on javablogs if you want some
readership, using this RSS feed once your first post has been  
written:

http://rifers.org/blogs/feeds/rss/entry/eokyere

On 30-jan-06, at 08:44, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:


Geert,

I have registered for the blog.

Thanks,
Emmanuel

On 1/30/06, Emmanuel Okyere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Geert,

How far along are you with the 'metadata' way of adding  
constraints?

if it's in a usable state now, I could use that, otherwise, I'll
mention work is under way to get it done; let me know.

Thanks,
Emmanuel

On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Emmanuel,

that's a great initiative! One suggestion I have is, if  
you're going
to show constraints, that "extends Validation" is evidently  
not the
cleanest way to do this is the model has to be container  
independent
or already exists. Work is underway to make true POJO use  
possible.
This will be done with parallel MetaData classes, ie. you Foo  
class

will have a FooMetaData and the classloader will automatically
detect
this and perform some magic to weave both together. This will  
be in
an invisible way (inner class with improbably inner variable  
name)

and be totally transparent.
Hardcore Java people tend to criticize the "extends Validation"
otherwise.

Good luck with the presentation. It would be nice if you  
would blot

about it at rifers.org to announce it. Like that,  London people
that
are interested but not on the list, are aware of your
presentation too.

To do so, you just have to register on the blog and tell me that
it's
done, I'll create a blog for you then.

Best regards,

Geert

On 30-jan-06, at 05:11, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:


Hello all:

I have commited to giving a 10-15 minute 'quickie' about  
RIFE at

the
next Java Web User Group (javawug) meeting at the Oracle City
office
in London, on Feb 3, 2006. There will be other 10-15 min  
'quickie'
sessions on various other java webdev technologies out  
there; it's

from 6:30pm to about 9.

I think this is the address:

Oracle City Office
One South Place
London
EC2M 2RB

If anyone on the list is in London, and will want to attend, I
suggest
sending an email to "Peter A. Pilgrim"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

as I
believe there's a security list.

I am going to draw on Geert's presentation at Euroscon 2005 and
compile about 6-8 slides that should capture, in a nutshell,  
what

makes RIFE compelling to develop Java web applications with; I
want to
round up my presentation by the close of day and send it up-- 
if any

one has any suggestions, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks a lot.

Emmanuel
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Re: [Rife-users] RIFE at JavaWUG BOF XV, 3-Feb-2006, Oracle City Office, London

2006-01-31 Thread Geert Bevin
It would be cool to have an URL to point to and get the full address  
to put on the calendar page.


On 31-jan-06, at 09:00, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:


Do you mean a URL? I'm not sure; it's a BOF and the idea was
circulated on the javawug mailing list.. I'll find out from Peter if
there's been a post and let you know.

Thanks
Emmanuel

ps: i'll also make a post on the rifers blog, after i've got
everything settled, hopefully by tonight.


On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Also, do you have the full address of the event?

Emmanuel Okyere wrote:

Excellent; I'll make a post.

Thanks,
Emmanuel

On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You blog has been created. To add an entry, open the blog menu  
to the

left, log in and click the appropriate menu item.

Don't forget to register you blog on javablogs if you want some
readership, using this RSS feed once your first post has been  
written:

http://rifers.org/blogs/feeds/rss/entry/eokyere

On 30-jan-06, at 08:44, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:


Geert,

I have registered for the blog.

Thanks,
Emmanuel

On 1/30/06, Emmanuel Okyere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Geert,

How far along are you with the 'metadata' way of adding  
constraints?

if it's in a usable state now, I could use that, otherwise, I'll
mention work is under way to get it done; let me know.

Thanks,
Emmanuel

On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Emmanuel,

that's a great initiative! One suggestion I have is, if  
you're going
to show constraints, that "extends Validation" is evidently  
not the
cleanest way to do this is the model has to be container  
independent
or already exists. Work is underway to make true POJO use  
possible.
This will be done with parallel MetaData classes, ie. you Foo  
class

will have a FooMetaData and the classloader will automatically
detect
this and perform some magic to weave both together. This will  
be in
an invisible way (inner class with improbably inner variable  
name)

and be totally transparent.
Hardcore Java people tend to criticize the "extends Validation"
otherwise.

Good luck with the presentation. It would be nice if you  
would blot

about it at rifers.org to announce it. Like that,  London people
that
are interested but not on the list, are aware of your
presentation too.

To do so, you just have to register on the blog and tell me that
it's
done, I'll create a blog for you then.

Best regards,

Geert

On 30-jan-06, at 05:11, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:


Hello all:

I have commited to giving a 10-15 minute 'quickie' about  
RIFE at

the
next Java Web User Group (javawug) meeting at the Oracle City
office
in London, on Feb 3, 2006. There will be other 10-15 min  
'quickie'
sessions on various other java webdev technologies out  
there; it's

from 6:30pm to about 9.

I think this is the address:

Oracle City Office
One South Place
London
EC2M 2RB

If anyone on the list is in London, and will want to attend, I
suggest
sending an email to "Peter A. Pilgrim"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

as I
believe there's a security list.

I am going to draw on Geert's presentation at Euroscon 2005 and
compile about 6-8 slides that should capture, in a nutshell,  
what

makes RIFE compelling to develop Java web applications with; I
want to
round up my presentation by the close of day and send it up-- 
if any

one has any suggestions, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks a lot.

Emmanuel
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Re: [Rife-users] RIFE at JavaWUG BOF XV, 3-Feb-2006, Oracle City Office, London

2006-01-31 Thread Emmanuel Okyere
precisely! :P

On 1/31/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lol, that's an ironical title ;-)
>
> On 31-jan-06, at 08:58, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
>
> > Geert,
> >
> > The title will be "Spring into RIFE"; I intend to do about a 7-8
> > minute overview covering the features, including my best,
> > out-of-container testing... and then using the rest of the time to
> > review some code.
> >
> > I believe there'll be about a 5 minute Q/A after that.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Emmanuel
> >
> > On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> What's the title of your talk?
> >>
> >> Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
> >>> Excellent; I'll make a post.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Emmanuel
> >>>
> >>> On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  You blog has been created. To add an entry, open the blog menu
>  to the
>  left, log in and click the appropriate menu item.
> 
>  Don't forget to register you blog on javablogs if you want some
>  readership, using this RSS feed once your first post has been
>  written:
>  http://rifers.org/blogs/feeds/rss/entry/eokyere
> 
>  On 30-jan-06, at 08:44, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
> 
> > Geert,
> >
> > I have registered for the blog.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Emmanuel
> >
> > On 1/30/06, Emmanuel Okyere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Geert,
> >>
> >> How far along are you with the 'metadata' way of adding
> >> constraints?
> >> if it's in a usable state now, I could use that, otherwise, I'll
> >> mention work is under way to get it done; let me know.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Emmanuel
> >>
> >> On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Hi Emmanuel,
> >>>
> >>> that's a great initiative! One suggestion I have is, if
> >>> you're going
> >>> to show constraints, that "extends Validation" is evidently
> >>> not the
> >>> cleanest way to do this is the model has to be container
> >>> independent
> >>> or already exists. Work is underway to make true POJO use
> >>> possible.
> >>> This will be done with parallel MetaData classes, ie. you Foo
> >>> class
> >>> will have a FooMetaData and the classloader will automatically
> >>> detect
> >>> this and perform some magic to weave both together. This will
> >>> be in
> >>> an invisible way (inner class with improbably inner variable
> >>> name)
> >>> and be totally transparent.
> >>> Hardcore Java people tend to criticize the "extends Validation"
> >>> otherwise.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck with the presentation. It would be nice if you
> >>> would blot
> >>> about it at rifers.org to announce it. Like that,  London people
> >>> that
> >>> are interested but not on the list, are aware of your
> >>> presentation too.
> >>>
> >>> To do so, you just have to register on the blog and tell me that
> >>> it's
> >>> done, I'll create a blog for you then.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Geert
> >>>
> >>> On 30-jan-06, at 05:11, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
> >>>
>  Hello all:
> 
>  I have commited to giving a 10-15 minute 'quickie' about
>  RIFE at
>  the
>  next Java Web User Group (javawug) meeting at the Oracle City
>  office
>  in London, on Feb 3, 2006. There will be other 10-15 min
>  'quickie'
>  sessions on various other java webdev technologies out
>  there; it's
>  from 6:30pm to about 9.
> 
>  I think this is the address:
> 
>  Oracle City Office
>  One South Place
>  London
>  EC2M 2RB
> 
>  If anyone on the list is in London, and will want to attend, I
>  suggest
>  sending an email to "Peter A. Pilgrim"
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  as I
>  believe there's a security list.
> 
>  I am going to draw on Geert's presentation at Euroscon 2005 and
>  compile about 6-8 slides that should capture, in a nutshell,
>  what
>  makes RIFE compelling to develop Java web applications with; I
>  want to
>  round up my presentation by the close of day and send it up--
>  if any
>  one has any suggestions, I would really appreciate it.
> 
>  Thanks a lot.
> 
>  Emmanuel
>  ___
>  Rife-users mailing list
>  Rife-users@uwyn.com
>  http://lists.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
> 
> >>> --
> >>> Geert Bevin   Uwyn bvba
> >>> "Use what you need"   Avenue de Scailmont 34
> >>> http://www.uwyn.com   7170 Manage, Belgium
> >>> gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03
> >>>
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Re: [Rife-users] RIFE at JavaWUG BOF XV, 3-Feb-2006, Oracle City Office, London

2006-01-31 Thread Emmanuel Okyere
Do you mean a URL? I'm not sure; it's a BOF and the idea was
circulated on the javawug mailing list.. I'll find out from Peter if
there's been a post and let you know.

Thanks
Emmanuel

ps: i'll also make a post on the rifers blog, after i've got
everything settled, hopefully by tonight.


On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, do you have the full address of the event?
>
> Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
> > Excellent; I'll make a post.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Emmanuel
> >
> > On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> You blog has been created. To add an entry, open the blog menu to the
> >> left, log in and click the appropriate menu item.
> >>
> >> Don't forget to register you blog on javablogs if you want some
> >> readership, using this RSS feed once your first post has been written:
> >> http://rifers.org/blogs/feeds/rss/entry/eokyere
> >>
> >> On 30-jan-06, at 08:44, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
> >>
> >>> Geert,
> >>>
> >>> I have registered for the blog.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Emmanuel
> >>>
> >>> On 1/30/06, Emmanuel Okyere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Geert,
> 
>  How far along are you with the 'metadata' way of adding constraints?
>  if it's in a usable state now, I could use that, otherwise, I'll
>  mention work is under way to get it done; let me know.
> 
>  Thanks,
>  Emmanuel
> 
>  On 1/30/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Emmanuel,
> >
> > that's a great initiative! One suggestion I have is, if you're going
> > to show constraints, that "extends Validation" is evidently not the
> > cleanest way to do this is the model has to be container independent
> > or already exists. Work is underway to make true POJO use possible.
> > This will be done with parallel MetaData classes, ie. you Foo class
> > will have a FooMetaData and the classloader will automatically
> > detect
> > this and perform some magic to weave both together. This will be in
> > an invisible way (inner class with improbably inner variable name)
> > and be totally transparent.
> > Hardcore Java people tend to criticize the "extends Validation"
> > otherwise.
> >
> > Good luck with the presentation. It would be nice if you would blot
> > about it at rifers.org to announce it. Like that,  London people
> > that
> > are interested but not on the list, are aware of your
> > presentation too.
> >
> > To do so, you just have to register on the blog and tell me that
> > it's
> > done, I'll create a blog for you then.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Geert
> >
> > On 30-jan-06, at 05:11, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all:
> >>
> >> I have commited to giving a 10-15 minute 'quickie' about RIFE at
> >> the
> >> next Java Web User Group (javawug) meeting at the Oracle City
> >> office
> >> in London, on Feb 3, 2006. There will be other 10-15 min 'quickie'
> >> sessions on various other java webdev technologies out there; it's
> >> from 6:30pm to about 9.
> >>
> >> I think this is the address:
> >>
> >> Oracle City Office
> >> One South Place
> >> London
> >> EC2M 2RB
> >>
> >> If anyone on the list is in London, and will want to attend, I
> >> suggest
> >> sending an email to "Peter A. Pilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> as I
> >> believe there's a security list.
> >>
> >> I am going to draw on Geert's presentation at Euroscon 2005 and
> >> compile about 6-8 slides that should capture, in a nutshell, what
> >> makes RIFE compelling to develop Java web applications with; I
> >> want to
> >> round up my presentation by the close of day and send it up--if any
> >> one has any suggestions, I would really appreciate it.
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot.
> >>
> >> Emmanuel
> >> ___
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> >> Rife-users@uwyn.com
> >> http://lists.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
> >>
> > --
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> > "Use what you need"   Avenue de Scailmont 34
> > http://www.uwyn.com   7170 Manage, Belgium
> > gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03
> >
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> >
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Re: [Rife-users] parsing XML data from a remote server within RIFE app

2006-01-31 Thread Geert Bevin

Hi David,


Did you try by disabling the classloader in the webapp?


I tried this and it fixes the problem.  However by the sound of it  
I have
turned off some features of RIFE I might want in future so not an  
ideal

solution?


No, it's not an ideal solution since the custom classloader will get  
more importance in future versions, it will not just be used for  
automatic compilations of elements and continuations anymore. I  
really want to track this issue down.



Can you send the most simple possible self-contained testcase?


I will see what I can do in the next few days.


That would really be great since the only way for me to fix it, is to  
be able to trace it step by step at the lower level to find out where  
the classloader hierarchy is broken.


Best regards,

Geert

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Re: [Rife-users] Multiple submit buttons on a form

2006-01-31 Thread Geert Bevin
Hi Eddy,

I don't see the use of the new template tag. It doesn't add anything,
since it's actually fully handled by the submission declaration.

As you noted, this feature addition could be confusing, and when there
are different submission forms on the same element with the same submit
button names, things can get confusing. However, since you do add a
handler specifically that can be worked around with by the user. How
about automating this completely, like this:









When the save submit button is pressed, RIFE will look for this method
if it exists:
doEditUserSave

In case of the delete button, it will be:
doEditUserDelete

If the submission is sent without any of the submit parameter names,
RIFE will auto-add the "save" parameter, causing doEditUserSave to be
called.

What do you think of that idea?

Best regards,

Geert

Eddy Young wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> There is no easy way to identify which submit button in a form with
> several was pressed when processing a submission. I proposed on IRC the
> idea of having a new tag, say, SUBMISSION:SUBMIT:mybutton, that would be
> recognised as a submit and would be autolinked to a method in the element.
> 
> The link will need to be defined in the the element declaration.
> 
> Say,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "handleMyButton" will be a method of "MyElement" that will automatically
> be called when "mybutton" is pressed.
> 
> Off the top of my mind, what I think weighs against implementing this
> is, there will be different ways to process form (by submission and by
> submit button), which could be confusing to developers. For example, if
> the above form is submitted, which method will be called? doEditUser or
> handleMyButton?
> 
> What do you think of the proposal?
> 
> Eddy
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Re: [Rife-users] Multiple submit buttons on a form

2006-01-31 Thread Tyler Pitchford
I think I'd prefer this setup. It seem more intuitive.

Cheers,
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Re: [Rife-users] Multiple submit buttons on a form

2006-01-31 Thread Geert Bevin

You mean my proposal, the last one?


I think I'd prefer this setup. It seem more intuitive.

Cheers,
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Re: [Rife-users] Multiple submit buttons on a form

2006-01-31 Thread Tyler Pitchford
Yes, yours Geert. It seems better to have it autodetect/fallback.
Keeps source compatibility with old versions, functions like several
other frameworks (not a plus always, but in this case I'd say it's
good) and it doesn't require a new tag.

Cheers,
  Tyler

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>
> > I think I'd prefer this setup. It seem more intuitive.
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Re: [Rife-users] Multiple submit buttons on a form

2006-01-31 Thread Naren
Hello
Yes I also vote for the Geert suggestion for handling multiple submit
button.
Regards
Naren

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Re: [Rife-users] Multiple submit buttons on a form

2006-01-31 Thread JR Boyens
I like this proposal since it saves me the pain of checking a submit
name in a localized website. Reduces my code in things like Bamboo (for
message previews) down about 25 lines.

On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 13:42 +0100, Geert Bevin wrote:
> Hi Eddy,
> 
> I don't see the use of the new template tag. It doesn't add anything,
> since it's actually fully handled by the submission declaration.
> 
> As you noted, this feature addition could be confusing, and when there
> are different submission forms on the same element with the same submit
> button names, things can get confusing. However, since you do add a
> handler specifically that can be worked around with by the user. How
> about automating this completely, like this:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> When the save submit button is pressed, RIFE will look for this method
> if it exists:
> doEditUserSave
> 
> In case of the delete button, it will be:
> doEditUserDelete
> 
> If the submission is sent without any of the submit parameter names,
> RIFE will auto-add the "save" parameter, causing doEditUserSave to be
> called.
> 
> What do you think of that idea?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> Eddy Young wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > There is no easy way to identify which submit button in a form with
> > several was pressed when processing a submission. I proposed on IRC the
> > idea of having a new tag, say, SUBMISSION:SUBMIT:mybutton, that would be
> > recognised as a submit and would be autolinked to a method in the element.
> > 
> > The link will need to be defined in the the element declaration.
> > 
> > Say,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "handleMyButton" will be a method of "MyElement" that will automatically
> > be called when "mybutton" is pressed.
> > 
> > Off the top of my mind, what I think weighs against implementing this
> > is, there will be different ways to process form (by submission and by
> > submit button), which could be confusing to developers. For example, if
> > the above form is submitted, which method will be called? doEditUser or
> > handleMyButton?
> > 
> > What do you think of the proposal?
> > 
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Re: [Rife-users] Multiple submit buttons on a form

2006-01-31 Thread Geert Bevin

Hmm, actually that's a good point.

It's better to use the submit input field's name attribute to  
differentiate since then you're not bound to the displayed text value.


On 31-jan-06, at 15:14, JR Boyens wrote:


I like this proposal since it saves me the pain of checking a submit
name in a localized website. Reduces my code in things like Bamboo  
(for

message previews) down about 25 lines.


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Re: [Rife-users] Multiple submit buttons on a form

2006-01-31 Thread JR Boyens
Right, but unless I'm not quite awake yet, I believe that if you have a
form, each submit button must have the same name and a different value.
Hence you CAN'T just check the name, you have to check the value against
the l10n value.

On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 15:21 +0100, Geert Bevin wrote:
> Hmm, actually that's a good point.
> 
> It's better to use the submit input field's name attribute to  
> differentiate since then you're not bound to the displayed text value.
> 
> On 31-jan-06, at 15:14, JR Boyens wrote:
> 
> > I like this proposal since it saves me the pain of checking a submit
> > name in a localized website. Reduces my code in things like Bamboo  
> > (for
> > message previews) down about 25 lines.
> 
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Re: [Rife-users] Multiple submit buttons on a form

2006-01-31 Thread Raoul Pierre



Right, but unless I'm not quite awake yet, I believe that if you have a
form, each submit button must have the same name and a different value.
Hence you CAN'T just check the name, you have to check the value against
the l10n value.
 

No, the only obligation is be able to differentiate each button of same 
type by at least one attribute.


Pierre




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Re: [Rife-users] Multiple submit buttons on a form

2006-01-31 Thread Geert Bevin
Indeed, iirc, as long as the submit field has a name, it'll be sent  
as a parameter.

Just try this locally:











On 31-jan-06, at 15:52, Raoul Pierre wrote:



Right, but unless I'm not quite awake yet, I believe that if you  
have a
form, each submit button must have the same name and a different  
value.
Hence you CAN'T just check the name, you have to check the value  
against

the l10n value.

No, the only obligation is be able to differentiate each button of  
same type by at least one attribute.


Pierre




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Re: [Rife-users] Multiple submit buttons on a form

2006-01-31 Thread Eddy Young
I also like your suggestion, Geert. I just threw this idea off the top 
of my head yesterday night after our quick IRC chat. Glad to see others 
supporting it.


Eddy

Geert Bevin wrote:

Hi Eddy,

I don't see the use of the new template tag. It doesn't add anything,
since it's actually fully handled by the submission declaration.

As you noted, this feature addition could be confusing, and when there
are different submission forms on the same element with the same submit
button names, things can get confusing. However, since you do add a
handler specifically that can be worked around with by the user. How
about automating this completely, like this:









When the save submit button is pressed, RIFE will look for this method
if it exists:
doEditUserSave

In case of the delete button, it will be:
doEditUserDelete

If the submission is sent without any of the submit parameter names,
RIFE will auto-add the "save" parameter, causing doEditUserSave to be
called.

What do you think of that idea?

Best regards,

Geert



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[Rife-users] Localization setup... cookbook/users guide?

2006-01-31 Thread Benjamin Cox
I was following along with the CRUD presentation slides when you  
arrived at the one with the .properties file.  I grabbed  
the .properties file from the ecalendar application and put it in the  
same place (src/l10n/crud/admin_en.properties), and redeployed, but  
the values still didn't appear on my site.  I've also tried renaming  
it every variation of XXX_en.properties I can think of!


I can't find any documentation that will help me get my CRUD  
localization bundles to be recognized by Rife.  I've dug through the  
cookbook, etc., but to no avail.  There's plenty of stuff about how  
to use these values in my templates, but nothing about how to get  
that file recognized in the first place!


Can I get a little love?

Thanks,

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Re: [Rife-users] Localization setup... cookbook/users guide?

2006-01-31 Thread Geert Bevin

Hi Ben,

the localization of RIFE/Crud is explained here:
http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFECRUD/Customization#Customization-l10n

Tell me if that clarifies it for you and helps you on your way.

Best regards,

Geert

On 31-jan-06, at 22:16, Benjamin Cox wrote:

I was following along with the CRUD presentation slides when you  
arrived at the one with the .properties file.  I grabbed  
the .properties file from the ecalendar application and put it in  
the same place (src/l10n/crud/admin_en.properties), and redeployed,  
but the values still didn't appear on my site.  I've also tried  
renaming it every variation of XXX_en.properties I can think of!


I can't find any documentation that will help me get my CRUD  
localization bundles to be recognized by Rife.  I've dug through  
the cookbook, etc., but to no avail.  There's plenty of stuff about  
how to use these values in my templates, but nothing about how to  
get that file recognized in the first place!


Can I get a little love?

Thanks,

  Ben
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