[Rife-users] Fwd: BOF 24 Planning

2007-01-17 Thread Emmanuel Okyere

FYI:

rife will be represented at the web framework smackdown :)

cheers,
Emmanuel

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Date: Jan 17, 2007 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: BOF 24 Planning
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Lauren


As promised here is some more content for JAVAWUG BOF 24 :



The evening will consists of a so-called web framework smack-down between
three proponents.
We will convene and discuss the pros and cons of the following web
frameworks.


  1. RIFE - Emmanuel Okyere will be representing this candidate. RIFE is
  a new generation full-stack framework that is based on advanced template
  technology, it is considered a pioneer in its field. For example RIFE was
  one of the first to build in a continuations framework.
  2. Spring MVC - Peter Pilgrim will be representing this framework.
  This is a web framework that was designed by Rod Johnson to be better than
  Struts Classic edition. This framework is strongly associated with the
  Spring Framework itself and also the companion project Spring Webflow
  3. Kevin Saunders will deliver a short presentation on using Java 5.0/ JSP
  2.0 / EL / Servlet 2.4 as your web framework. That is, he will be
  representing the standard APIs, with the tools available out-of-the-box.
  He will show examples using the current version of Java together with
  the recent JSP/Servlet specification which will allow you to create MVC
  sites very quickly and easily.

  In particular the current version of EL has knicked most of the good
  things about Struts and is definately worth a look
  4. Fourth person - (Adam Hardy , Eclipse Tomcat based Applications
  TBC)


At the time of going to press the evening may take the place of a panel
discussion with each representative
providing a demonstration with strong interaction with the audience. So the
BOF may or may not follow a
mini open space technology discussion style.

Some additional questions to worth pondering:


  - What type of applications are suited the web application framework
  in question?
  - What are pros and cons of each framework?
  - How easy is it to learn?
  - What are the dependencies for each framework? (e.g Java EE, J2EE,
  Apache etc )
  - Are there any tools that support any of these frameworks in order to
  ease-development?
  - Are these frameworks easy to extend?
  - Are there real-world examples out there on the net publicly
  available?
  - How do these frameworks support AJAX?
  - How will these frameworks feature in an increasingly Web 2.0 world?



--
Peter Pilgrim
UBS Investment Bank,
Client Portal Dev LDN,
Triton Court, 14 Finsbury Square, London, EC2A 1PD
United Kingdom (  +44 (0)207 56 75692 )
:: Java EE Spring 2.0 Hibernate 3.2 Development ::



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*From:* Lauren Clegg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* 15 January 2007 10:12
*To:* Pilgrim, Peter
*Subject:* Re: Skills Matter Availability

Hi Peter,

I did have a great Christmas and New Year's - thank you! I went back to
Boston for Christmas and was also back in London for New Year's Eve. Monday,
19th February works for us, I have added the meeting to the schedule. If you
could just send me a brief write-up, description, etc. of what the BOF will
be all about so that I can make a registration page on our website ASAP,
that would be great!

Thanks!
Lauren
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Re: [Rife-users] Fwd: BOF 24 Planning

2007-01-17 Thread Geert Bevin

When is that?

On 17 Jan 2007, at 18:33, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:


FYI:

rife will be represented at the web framework smackdown :)

cheers,
Emmanuel

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jan 17, 2007 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: BOF 24 Planning
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Lauren


As promised here is some more content for JAVAWUG BOF 24 :



The evening will consists of a so-called web framework smack-down  
between three proponents.
We will convene and discuss the pros and cons of the following web  
frameworks.


RIFE - Emmanuel Okyere will be representing this candidate. RIFE is  
a new generation full-stack framework that is based on advanced  
template technology, it is considered a pioneer in its field. For  
example RIFE was one of the first to build in a continuations  
framework.
Spring MVC - Peter Pilgrim will be representing this framework.  
This is a web framework that was designed by Rod Johnson to be  
better than Struts Classic edition. This framework is strongly  
associated with the Spring Framework itself and also the companion  
project Spring Webflow
Kevin Saunders will deliver a short presentation on using Java  
5.0 / JSP 2.0 / EL / Servlet 2.4 as your web framework. That is, he  
will be representing the standard APIs, with the tools available  
out-of-the-box. He will show examples using the current version of  
Java together with the recent JSP/Servlet specification which will  
allow you to create MVC sites very quickly and easily.
In particular the current version of EL has knicked most of the  
good things about Struts and is definately worth a look


Fourth person - (Adam Hardy , Eclipse Tomcat based Applications TBC)

At the time of going to press the evening may take the place of a  
panel discussion with each representative
providing a demonstration with strong interaction with the  
audience. So the BOF may or may not follow a

mini open space technology discussion style.

Some additional questions to worth pondering:

What type of applications are suited the web application framework  
in question?

What are pros and cons of each framework?
How easy is it to learn?
What are the dependencies for each framework? (e.g Java EE, J2EE,  
Apache etc )
Are there any tools that support any of these frameworks in order  
to ease-development?

Are these frameworks easy to extend?
Are there real-world examples out there on the net publicly available?
How do these frameworks support AJAX?
How will these frameworks feature in an increasingly Web 2.0 world?

--
Peter Pilgrim
UBS Investment Bank,
Client Portal Dev LDN,
Triton Court, 14 Finsbury Square, London, EC2A 1PD
United Kingdom (  +44 (0)207 56 75692 )
:: Java EE Spring 2.0 Hibernate 3.2 Development ::




From: Lauren Clegg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2007 10:12
To: Pilgrim, Peter
Subject: Re: Skills Matter Availability

Hi Peter,

I did have a great Christmas and New Year's - thank you! I went  
back to Boston for Christmas and was also back in London for New  
Year's Eve. Monday, 19th February works for us, I have added the  
meeting   to the schedule. If you could just send me a brief write- 
up, description, etc. of what the BOF will be all about so that I  
can make a registration page on our website ASAP, that would be great!


Thanks!
Lauren
--
Lauren Clegg
Marketing

t 0207 1072620
f 0207 1072621
e [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Skills Matter 2007 Events!!

The RoR eXchange, feat. Chad Fowler, James Cox, and more! -  
February 9th


The Grails eXchange, feat. Graeme Rocher, Dierk Koenig, and more! -  
May 30th-June 1st

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London, EC1R 0BE
United Kingdom
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Re: [Rife-users] Fwd: BOF 24 Planning

2007-01-17 Thread Emmanuel Okyere

Geert,

Sorry, I thought the fwd contained enough info; it's our usual Javawug
meeting (at skillsmatter) and we decided that an expert on a web app
framework comes out to defend it. Sort of a boxing match between the
frameworks (based on a user's experience).

Some questions (but not restricted):


 What type of applications are suited the web application framework
 in question?
 What are pros and cons of each framework?
 How easy is it to learn?
 What are the dependencies for each framework? (e.g Java EE, J2EE,
 Apache etc )
 Are there any tools that support any of these frameworks in order
 to ease-development?
 Are these frameworks easy to extend?
 Are there real-world examples out there on the net publicly available?
 How do these frameworks support AJAX?
 How will these frameworks feature in an increasingly Web 2.0 world?


Cheers,
Emmanuel

On 1/17/07, Geert Bevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When is that?

On 17 Jan 2007, at 18:33, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:

 FYI:

 rife will be represented at the web framework smackdown :)

 cheers,
 Emmanuel

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Jan 17, 2007 5:26 PM
 Subject: RE: BOF 24 Planning
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi Lauren


 As promised here is some more content for JAVAWUG BOF 24 :



 The evening will consists of a so-called web framework smack-down
 between three proponents.
 We will convene and discuss the pros and cons of the following web
 frameworks.

 RIFE - Emmanuel Okyere will be representing this candidate. RIFE is
 a new generation full-stack framework that is based on advanced
 template technology, it is considered a pioneer in its field. For
 example RIFE was one of the first to build in a continuations
 framework.
 Spring MVC - Peter Pilgrim will be representing this framework.
 This is a web framework that was designed by Rod Johnson to be
 better than Struts Classic edition. This framework is strongly
 associated with the Spring Framework itself and also the companion
 project Spring Webflow
 Kevin Saunders will deliver a short presentation on using Java
 5.0 / JSP 2.0 / EL / Servlet 2.4 as your web framework. That is, he
 will be representing the standard APIs, with the tools available
 out-of-the-box. He will show examples using the current version of
 Java together with the recent JSP/Servlet specification which will
 allow you to create MVC sites very quickly and easily.
 In particular the current version of EL has knicked most of the
 good things about Struts and is definately worth a look

 Fourth person - (Adam Hardy , Eclipse Tomcat based Applications TBC)

 At the time of going to press the evening may take the place of a
 panel discussion with each representative
 providing a demonstration with strong interaction with the
 audience. So the BOF may or may not follow a
 mini open space technology discussion style.

 Some additional questions to worth pondering:

 What type of applications are suited the web application framework
 in question?
 What are pros and cons of each framework?
 How easy is it to learn?
 What are the dependencies for each framework? (e.g Java EE, J2EE,
 Apache etc )
 Are there any tools that support any of these frameworks in order
 to ease-development?
 Are these frameworks easy to extend?
 Are there real-world examples out there on the net publicly available?
 How do these frameworks support AJAX?
 How will these frameworks feature in an increasingly Web 2.0 world?

 --
 Peter Pilgrim
 UBS Investment Bank,
 Client Portal Dev LDN,
 Triton Court, 14 Finsbury Square, London, EC2A 1PD
 United Kingdom (  +44 (0)207 56 75692 )
 :: Java EE Spring 2.0 Hibernate 3.2 Development ::




 From: Lauren Clegg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 15 January 2007 10:12
 To: Pilgrim, Peter
 Subject: Re: Skills Matter Availability

 Hi Peter,

 I did have a great Christmas and New Year's - thank you! I went
 back to Boston for Christmas and was also back in London for New
 Year's Eve. Monday, 19th February works for us, I have added the
 meeting   to the schedule. If you could just send me a brief write-
 up, description, etc. of what the BOF will be all about so that I
 can make a registration page on our website ASAP, that would be great!

 Thanks!
 Lauren
 --
 Lauren Clegg
 Marketing

 t 0207 1072620
 f 0207 1072621
 e [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Skills Matter 2007 Events!!

 The RoR eXchange, feat. Chad Fowler, James Cox, and more! -
 February 9th

 The Grails eXchange, feat. Graeme Rocher, Dierk Koenig, and more! -
 May 30th-June 1st
 logo.gif


 Skills Matter Ltd
 1 Sekforde Street
 London, EC1R 0BE
 United Kingdom
 Map


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