Re: [atlas] Probe DHCPv6 support

2023-05-09 Thread Simon Brandt via ripe-atlas

That should be "odhcp6c"

https://openwrt.org/packages/pkgdata/odhcp6c
https://github.com/openwrt/odhcp6c


BR,
Simon

On 09.05.23 20:22, Philip Homburg wrote:


In any case, Atlas probes run a stripped down version of OpenWRT. It may help
if somebody can figure out which OpenWRT packages need to be added to
enable DHCPv6.
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Re: [atlas] Probe DHCPv6 support

2023-05-09 Thread Philip Homburg
In your letter dated Tue, 9 May 2023 19:17:41 +0200 you wrote:
>That you do not see more of it is mostly Android's fault - because
>enterprises get told "it will not work with half the mobile devices",
>so they go and postpone IPv6 deployment instead (in places where the
>control bit is strictly required)...

Android devices show up at relatively untrusted wifi networks. I can see
the problem there. Or are you saying the these days enterprises are
100% cloud based, and the only networks they have left are wifi?

In many cases untrusted devices only communicate with the internal network over 
a VPN. In that case, the local access protocol doesn't matter much. The VPN
can hand out IPv6 address even if the host is IPv4-only.

In any case, Atlas probes run a stripped down version of OpenWRT. It may help
if somebody can figure out which OpenWRT packages need to be added to 
enable DHCPv6.

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Re: [atlas] Probe DHCPv6 support

2023-05-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 04:44:05PM +0200, Philip Homburg wrote:
> It seems that networks that support only DHCPv6 IN_NA for IPv6 are quite 
> rare. 

Enterprises love DHCPv6 (because, among others, reverse DNS, some amount
of control, and no pesky privacy addresses).

That you do not see more of it is mostly Android's fault - because
enterprises get told "it will not work with half the mobile devices",
so they go and postpone IPv6 deployment instead (in places where the
control bit is strictly required)...

Gert Doering
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Re: [atlas] Probe DHCPv6 support

2023-05-09 Thread Daniel Suchy via ripe-atlas

On 5/9/23 16:44, Philip Homburg wrote:

Does OpenWRT out of the box support DHVPv6? Did you ever try that? If it does, 
it may
help the Atlas team to just add the relevant OpenWRT packages.


Sure, it does (also prefix delegation works here).

- Daniel

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Re: [atlas] Probe DHCPv6 support

2023-05-09 Thread Philip Homburg
>Dear RIPE Atlas folks, why doesn't Atlas probes support DHCPv6 in 2023?
>
>All the stubborn reasons given why Android can't support DHCPv6 do not
>apply, and for the environment my v4 probe is running in, DHCPv6 is what
>we use - so it's DHCPv6 or no v6...

A random question about the state of the art in this area. Does OpenWRT
out of the box support DHVPv6? Did you ever try that? If it does, it may
help the Atlas team to just add the relevant OpenWRT packages.

It seems that networks that support only DHCPv6 IN_NA for IPv6 are quite rare. 

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Re: [atlas] Probe DHCPv6 support

2023-05-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 10:03:29PM +, Aleksi Pirttimaa wrote:
> I recently received my v4 probe and I'm very happy with it. But unfortunately 
> it doesn't support DHCPv6. I present a practical reason for implementing a 
> DHCPv6 client on the probe.

After quite a bit of fruitless debugging "why does my Atlas probe not
succeed in getting a DHCPv6 IA_NA lease?" today, google showed this old
thread from 2019.

Dear RIPE Atlas folks, why doesn't Atlas probes support DHCPv6 in 2023?

All the stubborn reasons given why Android can't support DHCPv6 do not
apply, and for the environment my v4 probe is running in, DHCPv6 is what
we use - so it's DHCPv6 or no v6...

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