Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Denesh Bhabuta via ripe-list


> On 2 Jul 2020, at 11:54, Daniel Karrenberg  wrote:
> The RIPE 2020 NomCom has selected Mirjam Kühne as RIPE Chair and Niall 
> O'Reilly as RIPE Vice Chair.

What a fantastic result!

Congratulations to both Mirjam and Niall.. both who have been present since the 
start of my Internet industry career..

Mirjam who conducted the first RIPE training course I attended all those years 
ago while I was dewy eyed in this industry.. and Niall who refused my 
application of melani.ie which I wanted for my wife back when the rules were 
much stricter and then exclaimed, “Oh, you are *that* Denesh!” when we finally 
met at a RIPE meeting. :-)

Thank you also to Filiz and Nigel for standing and making it a tough job for 
the NomCom to select from an excellent pool of candidates.

Warmest Regards
Denesh


Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Arnold Nipper
Dear Mirjam and dear Niall

On 02.07.2020 13:21, Niall O'Reilly wrote:

> 
> We are looking forward to working with all of you.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Mirjam Kühne and Niall O’Reilly
> 

congratulations and good luck!
Arnold
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Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Arnold Nipper
Andy,

On 02.07.2020 17:58, Andy Davidson wrote:

> HPH wrote:
>> I do want to acknowledge that concerns were raised quite late in
>> the process about the potential for capture or influence by the
>> RIPE NCC.
> 
> The Nomcom, chaired by the founder of the RIPE NCC has appointed a
> RIPE NCC staffer as the community Chair.  This had to be done on an
> emergency basis because the outgoing Chair was now MD of the RIPE
> NCC.
> 
> Funny definition of 'potential'!
> 

what about turning your frustration into passion and leading the process
working on revisited documents to address the issues encountered?


Good luck and cheers
Arnold
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Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Andy,

> The Nomcom, chaired by the founder of the RIPE NCC has appointed a RIPE NCC 
> staffer as the community Chair.  This had to be done on an emergency basis 
> because the outgoing Chair was now MD of the RIPE NCC.

The RIPE NCC is full of people who care deeply about our community and are part 
of it. It's not surprising that there is overlap.

That you are trying to make this look like a conspiracy is very unbefitting of 
this community. I'm not even going to go into the misrepresentations you made 
above. That there are people who have made their passion their professional 
life only shows their dedication.

Cheers,
Sander





Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Mirjam Kuehne
Thank you, Alex.

We are working on a transition plan with Hans Petter and an agreement
with the Executive Board that will maintain the independence of the
RIPE Chair. We expect to have all the details sorted in the next few weeks.

Kind Regards,
Mirjam


On 02/07/2020 15:04, Alex de Joode wrote:
> ​On Thu, 02-07-2020 13h 21min, Niall O'Reilly  wrote:
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> We both are delighted and honoured to have been chosen as the
> new RIPE
> Chair and Vice-Chair. 
> 
> Congratulations, both! Excellent choice.
> 
> We have been carefully following the discussion about the
> relationship
> between the RIPE NCC and RIPE and the rôle which RIPE NCC staff
> can and
> should play within the RIPE community; one of our early
> priorities will
> be to start a review of these relationships.
> 
> One of the 'issues' raised during this procedure was the 'right of
> return' for Mirjam back to RIPE NCC and the possible effect this
> could have on the (perceived) independence of the job.
> 
> It would be very much appreciated if you could be transparent about
> the 'right of return' agreement made (if any) and highlight possible
> future conflict of interest when and if they do occur.
> 
> ​-- 
> IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 | Skype:adejoode
> 




Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Randy Bush
> mirjam and nigel

sigh.  niall.

need coffee.



Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Randy Bush
dfk and the nomcom, well done.  was probably not a lot of fun.  thank
you.

mirjam and nigel, congratulations and support.  you have work ahead.

feliz and nigel, thank you for volunteering.  appreciated.

randy



Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi,

HPH wrote:
> I do want to acknowledge that concerns were raised quite late in the process 
> about the potential for
> capture or influence by the RIPE NCC. 

The Nomcom, chaired by the founder of the RIPE NCC has appointed a RIPE NCC 
staffer as the community Chair.  This had to be done on an emergency basis 
because the outgoing Chair was now MD of the RIPE NCC.

Funny definition of 'potential'!

Andy



Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
Daniel, NomCom,

Thank you for giving us an excellent chair and vice chair!

And thank you for bringing this to closure despite all difficulties.
Kudos to you for hard work and good results.

Mirjam, Niall,

My warmest congratulations, first and foremost to you, but also to all
of us for having you. :-)

Filiz, Nigel,

Thank you very much for standing as candidates, and I know that you
would do the job equally well. It cannot have been an easy choice for
the NomCom, and I cannot really see any other selection criteria than a
dice in this case. I would have liked to have all four of you! :-)

Cheers,
  /Liman

ripe-list@ripe.net 2020-07-02 12:54 [+0200]:
> Dear colleagues,

> The RIPE 2020 NomCom has selected Mirjam Kühne as RIPE Chair and Niall
> O'Reilly as RIPE Vice Chair. After interviewing all nominees, hearing
> substantial input from the community and a thorough discussion during
> three selection meetings all voting members voted to select Mirjam as
> Chair and eight out of ten voting members voted to select Niall as
> Vice Chair. The selection was subsequently supported unanimously by
> all members of the committee. We closely followed the process spelled
> out in ripe-727 and ripe-728. We regularly paused to confirm that the
> whole committee was comfortable with the process and its progress.

> We were able to choose from a set of nominees who are all very capabl> and 
> well respected in the community. We expect that the community
> would support any of them as their Chair. Our selection is in no way a
> negative statement about the nominees we did not select.

> We selected Mirjam because the input from the community clearly
> favoured her. She is very widely regarded as someone who listens
> carefully to everyone and who helps the community to find consensus
> and move forward. We selected Niall because of the positive input we
> received about his track record with the community. Mirjam and Niall
> convinced us that they would work well as a team and complement each
> other.

> The RIPE NCC board has confirmed the candidates in accordance with the
> process set out in ripe-727. The original time line called for a
> transition from Hans Petter to Mirjam and Niall during RIPE 81 in
> October. Hans Petter has since resigned as RIPE Chair because he
> accepted to be the new managing director of the RIPE NCC; he is
> currently also serving as RIPE Chair ad-interim. In this situation it
> makes little sense to stick to the original time line. Therefore we
> suggest that the outgoing and incoming Chairs arrange the transition
> among themselves as soon as practicable.

> We plan to publish the NomCom report about this first run of the
> selection process in September before our term ends at RIPE 81. We
> expect to make suggestions for improving the process and look forward
> to the community discussing and deciding the process for the next
> iteration.

> We thank everyone who supported the NomCom, especially all nominees
> and the many members of the community who made time to give us their
> input.

> Finally we call on the whole community to welcome and support Mirjam
> and Niall in their new roles!

> Daniel Karrenberg - Chair - RIPE 2020 Nomcom



Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Alex de Joode
​On Thu, 02-07-2020 13h 21min, Niall O'Reilly  wrote:> 
> 
Dear colleagues,
> 
> We both are delighted and honoured to have been chosen as the new RIPE
> Chair and Vice-Chair. 
> 
Congratulations, both! Excellent choice.
> 
We have been carefully following the discussion about the relationship
> between the RIPE NCC and RIPE and the rôle which RIPE NCC staff can and
> should play within the RIPE community; one of our early priorities will
> be to start a review of these relationships.
> 
One of the 'issues' raised during this procedure was the 'right of return' for 
Mirjam back to RIPE NCC and the possible effect this could have on the 
(perceived) independence of the job.

It would be very much appreciated if you could be transparent about the 'right 
of return' agreement made (if any) and highlight possible future conflict of 
interest when and if they do occur.

> 
​-- 
IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 | Skype:adejoode




Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Niall O'Reilly

Dear colleagues,

We both are delighted and honoured to have been chosen as the new RIPE
Chair and Vice-Chair. We are eager to serve the RIPE Community and
ready to listen to what the Community has to tell us. We want to start
by acknowledging the effort and engagement of all who have worked to
bring about this outcome.

Many thanks to the RIPE NomCom and to the RIPE NCC Executive Board for
carrying out this selection process for the first time in the history
of the RIPE community.

Many thanks to the community and to everyone who provided feedback. We
feel honoured by the confidence you put in us and accept the
challenge. We will do our best to meet your expectations.

And many thanks to Hans Petter Holen who guided the community since
RIPE 68 when he had the RIPE Chair role handed over to him by Rob
Blokzijl who chaired the RIPE community since RIPE 1 in 1989. It will
be hard to step into the shoes of those two chairs. Obviously we
cannot do this without all of you and we will be seeking your input
and guidance.

We salute and draw inspiration from the commitment to service shown by
Filiz Yilmaz and Nigel Titley in standing as nominees for the positions
to which we have now been chosen.

We are currently in discussion with Hans Petter about the transition
to the new RIPE Chair team, and expect that the formal handover date
will be during August.  In the meantime, we shall be reading ourselves
into our new rôles.

We have been carefully following the discussion about the relationship
between the RIPE NCC and RIPE and the rôle which RIPE NCC staff can and
should play within the RIPE community; one of our early priorities will
be to start a review of these relationships.

We expect to have more to say about our other plans shortly.

We are looking forward to working with all of you.

Kind regards,
Mirjam Kühne and Niall O’Reilly



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Re: [ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Hans Petter Holen
I would like to congratulate Mirjam Kühne and Niall O’Reilly on their
selection as our new RIPE Chair and Vice-Chair. Both Mirjam and Niall have
a long history within RIPE; they are experienced chairs, they understand
consensus, and they share the community's expectations in terms of
transparency and openness. I am sure they will continue to serve the
community well in their new roles.

After Rob Blokzijl passed the torch to me in 2014, this is the first time
we have selected our RIPE Chair (and now Vice-Chair) as a community. I want
to thank everyone who participated in this process - by standing as
nominees, volunteering to serve on the NomCom, providing feedback, or by
helping to establish the process itself.

I do want to acknowledge that concerns were raised quite late in the
process about the potential for capture or influence by the RIPE NCC.
However, I hope you will agree that the NomCom has chosen some good people
here. It is worth remembering that we operate on “rough consensus”, which
means that not everyone will fully agree with everything. That being the
case, we have plenty of time to consider further improvements to the
process before it starts again ahead of RIPE 91. There is also an
opportunity to work on improving the process for selecting working group
chairs and the community’s code of conduct, so I would like to encourage
you to volunteer for these efforts under the guidance of our new leadership.

So what happens next? I am eager to hand over my RIPE Chair
responsibilities. Mirjam and Niall will need time to fit their new RIPE
responsibilities alongside their existing ones. I don't expect this will
take too long, and I intend to exit the role pass onhand overam committed
to hand over the torch as soon as possible.

I am happy that I no longer have to occupy both the RIPE Chair and RIPE NCC
Managing Director roles. As the Managing Director, I am fully committed to
giving the new leadership and the RIPE Community the support needed, just
as my predecessors have supported me and my predecessor Rob Blokzijl.

In the meantime, I hope you will join me in wishing our new RIPE Chair and
Vice-Chair the very best... and with my RIPE NCC Managing Director's hat
on, I would also like to thank the outgoing RIPE Chair for his contribution
over the past six years.

Kind regards

Hans Petter Holen

(Outgoing) RIPE Chair / RIPE NCC Managing Director


On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 12:55, Daniel Karrenberg via ripe-list <
ripe-list@ripe.net> wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> The RIPE 2020 NomCom has selected Mirjam Kühne as RIPE Chair and Niall
> O'Reilly as RIPE Vice Chair. After interviewing all nominees, hearing
> substantial input from the community and a thorough discussion during
> three selection meetings all voting members voted to select Mirjam as
> Chair and eight out of ten voting members voted to select Niall as Vice
> Chair. The selection was subsequently supported unanimously by all
> members of the committee. We closely followed the process spelled out in
> ripe-727 and ripe-728. We regularly paused to confirm that the whole
> committee was comfortable with the process and its progress.
>
> We were able to choose from a set of nominees who are all very capable
> and well respected in the community. We expect that the community would
> support any of them as their Chair. Our selection is in no way a
> negative statement about the nominees we did not select.
>
> We selected Mirjam because the input from the community clearly favoured
> her. She is very widely regarded as someone who listens carefully to
> everyone and who helps the community to find consensus and move forward.
> We selected Niall because of the positive input we received about his
> track record with the community. Mirjam and Niall convinced us that they
> would work well as a team and complement each other.
>
> The RIPE NCC board has confirmed the candidates in accordance with the
> process set out in ripe-727. The original time line called for a
> transition from Hans Petter to Mirjam and Niall during RIPE 81 in
> October. Hans Petter has since resigned as RIPE Chair because he
> accepted to be the new managing director of the RIPE NCC; he is
> currently also serving as RIPE Chair ad-interim. In this situation it
> makes little sense to stick to the original time line. Therefore we
> suggest that the outgoing and incoming Chairs arrange the transition
> among themselves as soon as practicable.
>
> We plan to publish the NomCom report about this first run of the
> selection process in September before our term ends at RIPE 81. We
> expect to make suggestions for improving the process and look forward to
> the community discussing and deciding the process for the next
> iteration.
>
> We thank everyone who supported the NomCom, especially all nominees and
> the many members of the community who made time to give us their input.
>
> Finally we call on the whole community to welcome and support Mirjam and
> Niall in their new roles!
>

[ripe-list] RIPE Chairs Selected

2020-07-02 Thread Daniel Karrenberg via ripe-list

Dear colleagues,

The RIPE 2020 NomCom has selected Mirjam Kühne as RIPE Chair and Niall 
O'Reilly as RIPE Vice Chair. After interviewing all nominees, hearing 
substantial input from the community and a thorough discussion during 
three selection meetings all voting members voted to select Mirjam as 
Chair and eight out of ten voting members voted to select Niall as Vice 
Chair. The selection was subsequently supported unanimously by all 
members of the committee. We closely followed the process spelled out in 
ripe-727 and ripe-728. We regularly paused to confirm that the whole 
committee was comfortable with the process and its progress.


We were able to choose from a set of nominees who are all very capable 
and well respected in the community. We expect that the community would 
support any of them as their Chair. Our selection is in no way a 
negative statement about the nominees we did not select.


We selected Mirjam because the input from the community clearly favoured 
her. She is very widely regarded as someone who listens carefully to 
everyone and who helps the community to find consensus and move forward. 
We selected Niall because of the positive input we received about his 
track record with the community. Mirjam and Niall convinced us that they 
would work well as a team and complement each other.


The RIPE NCC board has confirmed the candidates in accordance with the 
process set out in ripe-727. The original time line called for a 
transition from Hans Petter to Mirjam and Niall during RIPE 81 in 
October. Hans Petter has since resigned as RIPE Chair because he 
accepted to be the new managing director of the RIPE NCC; he is 
currently also serving as RIPE Chair ad-interim. In this situation it 
makes little sense to stick to the original time line. Therefore we 
suggest that the outgoing and incoming Chairs arrange the transition 
among themselves as soon as practicable.


We plan to publish the NomCom report about this first run of the 
selection process in September before our term ends at RIPE 81. We 
expect to make suggestions for improving the process and look forward to 
the community discussing and deciding the process for the next 
iteration.


We thank everyone who supported the NomCom, especially all nominees and 
the many members of the community who made time to give us their input.


Finally we call on the whole community to welcome and support Mirjam and 
Niall in their new roles!


Daniel Karrenberg - Chair - RIPE 2020 Nomcom