[ripe-list] Response to Request from Ukrainian Government
Dear colleagues, Today we responded to a request from the Ukrainian Government. We have published this on our website here: https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/announcements/ripe-ncc-response-to-request-from-ukrainian-government Kind regards Hans Petter Holen Managing Director RIPE NCC -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list
Re: [ripe-list] statement on infrastructure governance sanctions regime
We should have that discussion here and take time to consider these ideas very very carefully. After a quick first reading my first reaction is: The analysis of unintended consequences of past attempts is good. Proposing new 'voluntary' mechanisms does not follow from that. Introducing coordinated destruction of connectivity at the IP level for other than operational reasons is not likely to have many positive results. First and foremost the unintended bad consequences need very careful consideration. It is not a good idea to make such fundamental changes to the Internet infrastructure at a time when emotions run high. I hope that we are strong enough to make decisions at a time of less conflict and emotions. In the meantime please sign https://keepitopen.net/ . It would be a bad time for this community when we cannot agree to keep the basic Infrastructure of the Internet connected as much as we can. Daniel On 10-03-2022 13:10, Niels ten Oever wrote: Dear all, With a diverse group of actors we made a statement on what we think an internet infrastructure governance sanctions regime should look like. Looking forward to discuss it with you. Statement: https://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/Multistakeholder-Imposition-of-Internet-Sanctions.pdf [PDF] Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/nielstenoever/status/1501821745631797249 Press: https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2022/03/10/internet_russia_sanctions/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/10/internet-russia-sanctions-proposal/ https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-technology-business-europe-8909762f92d1982acb6fca4e6dc2d183 Plain text version of the statement: Thursday, March 10, 2022 The Hague Multistakeholder Imposition of Internet Sanctions Executive Summary The invasion of Ukraine poses a new challenge for multistakeholder Internet infrastructure governance. In this statement, we discuss possible sanctions and their ramifications, lay out principles that we believe should guide Internet sanctions, and propose a multistakeholder governance mechanism to facilitate decision-making and implementation. Introduction The Internet is in its thirtieth year of transition from national to multistakeholder governance. As we encounter pivotal moments, we must decide as a community whether Internet self-governance has matured sufficiently to address such newly encountered issue. Governments have imposed sanctions throughout history, but the global Internet governance community has not yet established a process dedicated to this task. We believe it is now incumbent upon the Internet community to deliberate and make decisions in the face of humanitarian crises. We may not responsibly dismiss such crises without consideration, nor with consideration only for the self-interest of our community’s own direct constituents; instead, maturity of governance requires that self- interests be weighed in the balance with broader moral and societal considerations. This document is the beginning of a global Internet governance conversation about the appropriate scope of sanctions, the feasibility of sanctions within the realm of our collective responsibility, and our moral imperative to minimize detrimental consequences. Principles for Internet Infrastructure Governance Sanctions We, the undersigned, agree to the following principles: - Disconnecting the population of a country from the Internet is a disproportionate and inappropriate sanction, since it hampers their access to the very information that might lead them to withdraw support for acts of war and leaves them with access to only the information their own government chooses to furnish. - The effectiveness of sanctions should be evaluated relative to predefined goals. Ineffective sanctions waste effort and willpower and convey neither unity nor conviction. - Sanctions should be focused and precise. They should minimize the chance of unintended consequences or collateral damage. Disproportionate or over-broad sanctions risk fundamentally alienating populations. - Military and propaganda agencies and their information infrastructure are potential targets of sanctions. - The Internet, due to its transnational nature and consensus-driven multistakeholder system of governance, currently does not easily lend itself to the imposition of sanctions in national conflicts. - It is inappropriate and counterproductive for governments to attempt to compel Internet governance mechanisms to impose sanctions outside of the community’s multistakeholder decision-making process. - There are nonetheless appropriate, effective, and specific sanctions the Internet governance community may wish to consider in its deliberative processes. Recommendations We believe it is the responsibility of the global Internet governance community to weigh the costs and risks of sanctions against the moral imperatives that call us to acti
Re: [ripe-list] Appeal of the European Network Engineers
Daniel, On 10.03.2022 11:21, Daniel Karrenberg via ripe-list wrote: It would be really nice if those of us who are active in a local or regional NOG would spread the word about this in their community. We need support from all parts of the region and especially from those suffering through the current war(s)! Nobody should feel excluded by the 'Europe' in the title, read it as RIPE Region or as Rob Blokzijl coined it: 'Europe and surrounding areas'. We used 'Europe' to make it easier to understand for non-experts. Daniel PS: Of course I know that 'international tensions' is a gross euphemism for what is happening in parts of our region right now. It is painful to have to be so careful. However we especially need broad support from places where clearer language would put any supporter at disproportional risk. thanks for your clarifications - truly appreciated and helpful, indeed! Best, -C. On 09-03-2022 22:18, Daniel Karrenberg wrote: Keep the Internet Open == Appeal of the European Network Engineers We have worked hard to keep the Internet available in Europe and surrounding areas during the Covid pandemic. The Internet infrastructure is essential for the safety, security and well-being of all people living here. Due to the growing international tensions in this part of the world we hear calls to deliberately harm interconnections and the functioning of the network. We realise that the Internet is being used for purposes that many of us deplore. However this cannot be a reason to harm the infrastructure itself and prevent the good and often essential things that depend on it. We urge everyone to consider this carefully and not only refrain from harming the operation and interconnection but to actively work to keep the Internet running and maintain interconnections with all parts of our region. In particular we call on all governments and everyone involved with the governance of the Internet to do everything they can to enable us to keep the Internet infrastructure operational throughout the RIPE region. We will do our part as well as we can. The purpose of this appeal is to influence everyone considering actions that would make it harder for us to keep the Internet running. In particular it is intended to provide guidance and support to Internet governance bodies like the RIPE NCC. It will only work if many individuals sign up to it publicly. Individuals considered close to the current conflicts will have special weight here! You can sign this appeal by mailing a signature line of the form Name, Place, Countrycode to . Please add a very short statement why you consider yourself a network engineer. Choose the place that best describes who you are; you do not have to be there right now. We will only publish the signature line and nothing else. We will delete your e-mail messages as soon as they are processed. Signatures will start to be published when we have collected at least 256 originating from throughout the region. We will start publicising this appeal once we have at least 1024 signatures. [Please spread the word.](https://keepitopen.net) Thank you for your support! Daniel Karrenberg, Roermond, NL -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list
[ripe-list] statement on infrastructure governance sanctions regime
Dear all, With a diverse group of actors we made a statement on what we think an internet infrastructure governance sanctions regime should look like. Looking forward to discuss it with you. Statement: https://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/Multistakeholder-Imposition-of-Internet-Sanctions.pdf [PDF] Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/nielstenoever/status/1501821745631797249 Press: https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2022/03/10/internet_russia_sanctions/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/10/internet-russia-sanctions-proposal/ https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-technology-business-europe-8909762f92d1982acb6fca4e6dc2d183 Plain text version of the statement: Thursday, March 10, 2022 The Hague Multistakeholder Imposition of Internet Sanctions Executive Summary The invasion of Ukraine poses a new challenge for multistakeholder Internet infrastructure governance. In this statement, we discuss possible sanctions and their ramifications, lay out principles that we believe should guide Internet sanctions, and propose a multistakeholder governance mechanism to facilitate decision-making and implementation. Introduction The Internet is in its thirtieth year of transition from national to multistakeholder governance. As we encounter pivotal moments, we must decide as a community whether Internet self-governance has matured sufficiently to address such newly encountered issue. Governments have imposed sanctions throughout history, but the global Internet governance community has not yet established a process dedicated to this task. We believe it is now incumbent upon the Internet community to deliberate and make decisions in the face of humanitarian crises. We may not responsibly dismiss such crises without consideration, nor with consideration only for the self-interest of our community’s own direct constituents; instead, maturity of governance requires that self- interests be weighed in the balance with broader moral and societal considerations. This document is the beginning of a global Internet governance conversation about the appropriate scope of sanctions, the feasibility of sanctions within the realm of our collective responsibility, and our moral imperative to minimize detrimental consequences. Principles for Internet Infrastructure Governance Sanctions We, the undersigned, agree to the following principles: - Disconnecting the population of a country from the Internet is a disproportionate and inappropriate sanction, since it hampers their access to the very information that might lead them to withdraw support for acts of war and leaves them with access to only the information their own government chooses to furnish. - The effectiveness of sanctions should be evaluated relative to predefined goals. Ineffective sanctions waste effort and willpower and convey neither unity nor conviction. - Sanctions should be focused and precise. They should minimize the chance of unintended consequences or collateral damage. Disproportionate or over-broad sanctions risk fundamentally alienating populations. - Military and propaganda agencies and their information infrastructure are potential targets of sanctions. - The Internet, due to its transnational nature and consensus-driven multistakeholder system of governance, currently does not easily lend itself to the imposition of sanctions in national conflicts. - It is inappropriate and counterproductive for governments to attempt to compel Internet governance mechanisms to impose sanctions outside of the community’s multistakeholder decision-making process. - There are nonetheless appropriate, effective, and specific sanctions the Internet governance community may wish to consider in its deliberative processes. Recommendations We believe it is the responsibility of the global Internet governance community to weigh the costs and risks of sanctions against the moral imperatives that call us to action in defense of society, and we must address this governance problem now and in the future. We believe the time is right for the formation of a new, minimal, multistakeholder mechanism, similar in scale to NSP-Sec or Outages, which after due process and consensus would publish sanctioned IP addresses and domain names in the form of public data feeds in standard forms (BGP and RPZ), to be consumed by any organization that chooses to subscribe to the principles and their outcome. This process should use clearly documented procedures to assess violations of international norms in an open, multistakeholder, and consensus-driven process, taking into account the principles of non-overreach and effectiveness in making its determinations. This system mirrors existing systems used by network operators to block spam, malware, and DDoS attacks, so it requires no new technology and minimal work to implement. We call upon our colleagues to participate in a multistakeholder deliberation using t
Re: [ripe-list] Appeal of the European Network Engineers
It would be really nice if those of us who are active in a local or regional NOG would spread the word about this in their community. We need support from all parts of the region and especially from those suffering through the current war(s)! Nobody should feel excluded by the 'Europe' in the title, read it as RIPE Region or as Rob Blokzijl coined it: 'Europe and surrounding areas'. We used 'Europe' to make it easier to understand for non-experts. Daniel PS: Of course I know that 'international tensions' is a gross euphemism for what is happening in parts of our region right now. It is painful to have to be so careful. However we especially need broad support from places where clearer language would put any supporter at disproportional risk. Daniel On 09-03-2022 22:18, Daniel Karrenberg wrote: Keep the Internet Open == Appeal of the European Network Engineers We have worked hard to keep the Internet available in Europe and surrounding areas during the Covid pandemic. The Internet infrastructure is essential for the safety, security and well-being of all people living here. Due to the growing international tensions in this part of the world we hear calls to deliberately harm interconnections and the functioning of the network. We realise that the Internet is being used for purposes that many of us deplore. However this cannot be a reason to harm the infrastructure itself and prevent the good and often essential things that depend on it. We urge everyone to consider this carefully and not only refrain from harming the operation and interconnection but to actively work to keep the Internet running and maintain interconnections with all parts of our region. In particular we call on all governments and everyone involved with the governance of the Internet to do everything they can to enable us to keep the Internet infrastructure operational throughout the RIPE region. We will do our part as well as we can. The purpose of this appeal is to influence everyone considering actions that would make it harder for us to keep the Internet running. In particular it is intended to provide guidance and support to Internet governance bodies like the RIPE NCC. It will only work if many individuals sign up to it publicly. Individuals considered close to the current conflicts will have special weight here! You can sign this appeal by mailing a signature line of the form Name, Place, Countrycode to . Please add a very short statement why you consider yourself a network engineer. Choose the place that best describes who you are; you do not have to be there right now. We will only publish the signature line and nothing else. We will delete your e-mail messages as soon as they are processed. Signatures will start to be published when we have collected at least 256 originating from throughout the region. We will start publicising this appeal once we have at least 1024 signatures. [Please spread the word.](https://keepitopen.net) Thank you for your support! Daniel Karrenberg, Roermond, NL -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list
