Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-20 Thread d6jg

ItÂ’s often not necessary to install any drivers.
Is the USB listed as available - possibly as USB Audio Codec - in Audio
Mixer on W10?

Right click on the Speaker icon at bottom right and look for Output
Devices



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-18 Thread bpa

rogingat wrote: 
> I am an audiophile equipment reviewer. The DAC I am dealing with is so
> new there are only 30 units on the planet. I am hoping the manufacturer
> will come up with support later tonight as they are on the other side of
> the planet.

Not a great start to a review when there are problems using a common
OS.

Many DACs use the same USB interface & DACs chips so and so if the chips
details are available then suggestions may be possible as drivers
interface with these chips



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-18 Thread rogingat

bpa wrote: 
> I don;t use WIn 10 but it is very very likely that until driver issue is
> sorted no Windows applicaiton will be able to play through the DAC.
> 
> If you give full details of the DAC (i.e. vendor, model, etc)  perhaps
> there may be a LMS user who has the same DAC or alternatively be able to
> offer a more detailed suggestion rather than just basic "update the
> driver" as a result of  experience with other troublesome DACs.

I am an audiophile equipment reviewer. The DAC I am dealing with is so
new there are only 30 units on the planet. I am hoping the manufacturer
will come up with support later tonight as they are on the other side of
the planet.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-18 Thread bpa

rogingat wrote: 
> No. My problem right now (I think) is that I can't get the Windows 10 PC
> to see the DAC that is connected to a USB port as an audio device. My PC
> sees the DAC and indicates that the driver is inactive. I have executed
> the driver .exe file that was given to me by the DAC manufacturer but
> when I tell Windows Device Manager to update the driver and point it to
> the folder where I installed the drive I get a message back - driver not
> found!

I don;t use WIn 10 but it is very very likely that until driver issue is
sorted no Windows applicaiton will be able to play through the DAC.

If you give full details of the DAC (i.e. vendor, model, etc)  perhaps
there may be a LMS user who has the same DAC or alternatively be able to
offer a more detailed suggestion rather than just basic "update the
driver" as a result of  experience with other troublesome DACs.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-18 Thread rogingat

bpa wrote: 
> Can you can get audio output from any Windows application through the
> DAC attached via USB to the PC ?
> 
> If not, then it is likely that JRiver will have the same problem.

No. My problem right now (I think) is that I can't get the Windows 10 PC
to see the DAC that is connected to a USB port as an audio device. My PC
sees the DAC and indicates that the driver is inactive. I have executed
the driver .exe file that was given to me by the DAC manufacturer but
when I tell Windows Device Manager to update the driver and point it to
the folder where I installed the drive I get a message back - driver not
found!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-18 Thread bpa

Can you can get audio output from any Windows application through the
DAC attached via USB to the PC ?

If not, then it is likely that JRiver will have the same problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-18 Thread rogingat

Valid question, why am I going to all this trouble when I have a SB2? I
have a very high end audiophile system and a large collection of 24/96
and 24/192 files. Also I recently purchased a state if the art DAC. Then
I discovered that SB2 limits the output to 48k in spite of the fact that
it shows 24/96 on the display! That seems really stupid. If I cant get
Squeezelite to work I will purchase JRiver. I appreciate everyones help
so far.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-17 Thread Apesbrain

Are you running Windows?  Open Device Manager and find the disabled USB
audio device. Right-click on it and select update driver.  Point it to
the folder where you downloaded/installed the XCORE driver. You have to
get the USB audio device working before you can solve the Squeezelite
issue.

Note: for someone admittedly inexperienced with this level of
support/troubleshooting you are going through a lot of trouble for a
less convenient solution than your SB2 and very little if any sound
difference. My advice is to go back to your original configuration,
update LMS to current 7.9.1 beta, and enjoy your music.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-17 Thread Apesbrain

Are you running Windows?  Open Device Manager and find the disabled USB
audio device. Right-click on it and select update driver.  Point it to
the folder where you downloaded the XCORE driver. You have to get the
USB audio device working before you can solve the Squeezelite issue.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-17 Thread rogingat

Apesbrain wrote: 
> You need to tell Squeezelite which output to use by first using the "-l"
> command to enumerate what outputs are available on your PC.  Run this
> command with your USB DAC attached to your PC and properly installed.
> One of the output options should be your DAC.  You include this option
> on your Squeezelite startup command.
> 
> Here's a setup guide for Windows:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?100893-HOW-TO-Squeezelite-player-on-Windows-8-step-by-step

Thanks for the info. It helped a lot. Unfortunately when it comes to
this kind of work I am really dumb.  I ran the driver software and
installed the driver in the Squeezelite folder. I connected the DAC and
set it to USB. I did the -l thing and got a list. My DAC driver (XCORE)
is not there. I don't have any idea what to do next!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-17 Thread Apesbrain

You need to tell Squeezelite which output to use. See "-l" setup
command:
https://www.max2play.com/en/wiki/command-line-options-for-squeezelite/

Run this with your USB DAC attached to your PC and properly installed.
One of the output options should be your DAC.

You include this option on your Squeezelite startup command.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-17 Thread TonioRoffo

Are you running Linux?





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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-17 Thread rogingat

TonioRoffo wrote: 
> Check the localplayer plugin.  It installs squeezelite which is
> basically a software squeezebox.  I run it to async USB up to 24/192.

Thanks for the info. I installed Squeezelite already and I can select
and play through it from LMS however it sends the output to my sound
card. I need it to go to a USB port and to my DAC but I don't know how
to do that. I have read that its possible?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-17 Thread TonioRoffo

Check the localplayer plugin.  It installs squeezelite which is
basically a software squeezebox.  I run it to async USB up to 24/192.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-17 Thread rogingat

Is it possible to sream directly from my pc USB port with LMS? Would I
get 24/96?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-17 Thread w3wilkes

d6jg wrote: 
> IIRC Squeezebox 2 & 3 players are both limited to 24/48
I think the Duet receiver has this same limitation.



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Squeeseslave
Portable system - Rock solid with LMS 7.9 on Win10 Pro - 1 Duet and
Squeezeslave

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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] does LMS/Squeezebox 2 limit the sampling or bit rate

2017-11-17 Thread d6jg

rogingat wrote: 
> I am new to this group and many of the posts are too technical for me. I
> am trying to determine if my LMS/Squeezebox 2 setup is sending the
> unmodified flac file to my DAC. My new DAC will accept anything up to 24
> bit/192k on the s-pdif inputs however when I play for example a 24/96
> flac file the DAC display indicates 48k! Can anyone help me on this,
> without getting too technical. Does my Squeezebox adjust the resolution?

IIRC Squeezebox 2 & 3 players are both limited to 24/48



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