Re: [RDD] RD, ALSA, JACK/JACKCTRL

2014-06-21 Thread Karl Koscher
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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Nathan Steele  wrote:

>   What's the irc chanel? I know what irc is, just the name of the channel.
>  --
>
> On June 21, 2014 7:14:32 AM drew Roberts  wrote:
>
>> Thomas,
>>
>> go simple first.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Thomas Churchill <
>> tho...@virtualvoice.info> wrote:
>>
>>> OK I lied, it's not THAT simple. Miscommunication here. Using ALSA was
>>> the
>>> only way I have been able to have Rivendell play audio. Direct through
>>> ALSA
>>> and without JACK. OF COURSE I have removed ALSA, with the menu, and
>>> checked
>>> again in the configuration files directly. I said so. Everything is set
>>> with
>>> the JACK server running, the audio hardware is no longer tied to RD
>>> directly, but it can't find any audio from RD. I have had to fiddle with
>>> permissions/ownership because for some reason out of the box jack, jack
>>> daemons, and RD do not start as the same user and so can't see each
>>> other.
>>> That's all fixed. No errors anywhere. Stop RD Daemons, start jack, start
>>> RD,
>>> start stream, everything appears in the JACKCTRL panel connection menu.
>>> Admin says it's using JACK. CAED shows no errors, Jack server running,
>>> stream connects, but the best I can get is 128K static, nothing from the
>>> speakers, and RDAirplay shows no meters, and won't load carts no matter
>>> how
>>> I connect the virtual cables so far, and I've spent literally 30+ hours
>>> at
>>> it in two days. Its either still a owner issue or the virtual cables not
>>> connected properly. There are serious version, ownership, permissions
>>> issues
>>> here. I set up an icecast, and shoutcast server on my linux box in
>>> Chicago
>>> remotely, booted over to Windows, had a stream connecting and playing
>>> music
>>> from a Windows setup in 20 minutes just to eliminate any possible issues
>>> in
>>> the stream encoder I wrote with third party hosts. Yet, I've spent three
>>> days trying to get a test tone because JACK and RD won't talk to each
>>> other.
>>>
>>
>> Test jack without Rivendell.
>>
>> Try something like VLC as a jack player. (Not great but have a go.) Do
>> everything you are doing now to get Riv and Jack to play together. Then
>> shut down the Riv side only. Fire up VLC, set it to jack audio output and
>> possibly shut it down and start it up again. Play a simple wav, ogg, or mp3
>> file. Can you get any sound out via jack now?
>>
>> Another thing I do is to use a jack audio meter and hook that to my sound
>> out instead of my "speakers" and see if the meter is seeing any audio
>> passing.
>>
>>
>>> It can't be this complicated can it?
>>>
>>> It is likely something simple. But sometimes, the simple things can bite
>>> us the worst.
>>>
>>
>> Plus, are you in the IRC channel? Have you asked for help there?
>>
>> all the best,
>>
>> drew
>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RDD] Big problem....

2014-06-21 Thread Nathan Steele
OK so I setup a new machine, restored the DB backup I made from before I 
changed the hostname, and I still have the same problem on both machines 
now.


The music was all imported from WideOrbit and came in with the wrong 
start and end times, so I set them all to evergreen by editing the 
mysql. /var/snd ownership and permisions look right for the directory 
and the wav files.


RD Airplay shows them RED and say no audioavailible and has the length 
showing as oo:oo. however they do play just fine out of rdairplay, but 
this is wrong behaviour.


I also was unable to create a log by merging from music master, it 
appeared to work but was empty. I have another system working using 
music master and it's all setup the same way and everything looks the 
same. I get no errors. Scheduling with RD's scheduler is working. 
merging music from MM looks like it works but I get a log with only a 
chain to in it.not sure if this is the same problem which I am not 
sure what the problem is.


Thanks.

I'm also on IRC now.and will be as long as I am in the office 
working on this.


Trying to have the system on air by monday..

Nathaniel C. Steele
Chief Engineer/Technical Director

WTCF-Southernlight

and

TheCross Online

On 6/20/2014 1:14 PM, Nathan Steele wrote:
OK, I think I really messed something up when changing the hostname on 
my new rivendell setup. Now I get all carts in airplay showing 00:00 
and red. They do actually play though. I am, or was, getting the 
unable to draw waveform error in the marker screen also.


I am close to just starting over, but it would take a while to copy 
the /var/sndanyone know a quick fix?


Also, it would be really great if the hostname could be set at install 
or the first run.I mean, unless you only have one machine, yu have 
to change the hostname at some point. I just forgot to do it first.




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Re: [RDD] RD, ALSA, JACK/JACKCTRL

2014-06-21 Thread Nathan Steele

What's the irc chanel? I know what irc is, just the name of the channel.


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On June 21, 2014 7:14:32 AM drew Roberts  wrote:


Thomas,

go simple first.

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Thomas Churchill  wrote:

> OK I lied, it's not THAT simple. Miscommunication here. Using ALSA was the
> only way I have been able to have Rivendell play audio. Direct through ALSA
> and without JACK. OF COURSE I have removed ALSA, with the menu, and checked
> again in the configuration files directly. I said so. Everything is set
> with
> the JACK server running, the audio hardware is no longer tied to RD
> directly, but it can't find any audio from RD. I have had to fiddle with
> permissions/ownership because for some reason out of the box jack, jack
> daemons, and RD do not start as the same user and so can't see each other.
> That's all fixed. No errors anywhere. Stop RD Daemons, start jack, start
> RD,
> start stream, everything appears in the JACKCTRL panel connection menu.
> Admin says it's using JACK. CAED shows no errors, Jack server running,
> stream connects, but the best I can get is 128K static, nothing from the
> speakers, and RDAirplay shows no meters, and won't load carts no matter how
> I connect the virtual cables so far, and I've spent literally 30+ hours at
> it in two days. Its either still a owner issue or the virtual cables not
> connected properly. There are serious version, ownership, permissions
> issues
> here. I set up an icecast, and shoutcast server on my linux box in Chicago
> remotely, booted over to Windows, had a stream connecting and playing music
> from a Windows setup in 20 minutes just to eliminate any possible issues in
> the stream encoder I wrote with third party hosts. Yet, I've spent three
> days trying to get a test tone because JACK and RD won't talk to each
> other.
>

Test jack without Rivendell.

Try something like VLC as a jack player. (Not great but have a go.) Do
everything you are doing now to get Riv and Jack to play together. Then
shut down the Riv side only. Fire up VLC, set it to jack audio output and
possibly shut it down and start it up again. Play a simple wav, ogg, or mp3
file. Can you get any sound out via jack now?

Another thing I do is to use a jack audio meter and hook that to my sound
out instead of my "speakers" and see if the meter is seeing any audio
passing.


> It can't be this complicated can it?
>
> It is likely something simple. But sometimes, the simple things can bite
> us the worst.
>

Plus, are you in the IRC channel? Have you asked for help there?

all the best,

drew

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Re: [RDD] RD, ALSA, JACK/JACKCTRL

2014-06-21 Thread drew Roberts
Thomas,

go simple first.

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Thomas Churchill  wrote:

> OK I lied, it's not THAT simple. Miscommunication here. Using ALSA was the
> only way I have been able to have Rivendell play audio. Direct through ALSA
> and without JACK. OF COURSE I have removed ALSA, with the menu, and checked
> again in the configuration files directly. I said so. Everything is set
> with
> the JACK server running, the audio hardware is no longer tied to RD
> directly, but it can't find any audio from RD. I have had to fiddle with
> permissions/ownership because for some reason out of the box jack, jack
> daemons, and RD do not start as the same user and so can't see each other.
> That's all fixed. No errors anywhere. Stop RD Daemons, start jack, start
> RD,
> start stream, everything appears in the JACKCTRL panel connection menu.
> Admin says it's using JACK. CAED shows no errors, Jack server running,
> stream connects, but the best I can get is 128K static, nothing from the
> speakers, and RDAirplay shows no meters, and won't load carts no matter how
> I connect the virtual cables so far, and I've spent literally 30+ hours at
> it in two days. Its either still a owner issue or the virtual cables not
> connected properly. There are serious version, ownership, permissions
> issues
> here. I set up an icecast, and shoutcast server on my linux box in Chicago
> remotely, booted over to Windows, had a stream connecting and playing music
> from a Windows setup in 20 minutes just to eliminate any possible issues in
> the stream encoder I wrote with third party hosts. Yet, I've spent three
> days trying to get a test tone because JACK and RD won't talk to each
> other.
>

Test jack without Rivendell.

Try something like VLC as a jack player. (Not great but have a go.) Do
everything you are doing now to get Riv and Jack to play together. Then
shut down the Riv side only. Fire up VLC, set it to jack audio output and
possibly shut it down and start it up again. Play a simple wav, ogg, or mp3
file. Can you get any sound out via jack now?

Another thing I do is to use a jack audio meter and hook that to my sound
out instead of my "speakers" and see if the meter is seeing any audio
passing.


> It can't be this complicated can it?
>
> It is likely something simple. But sometimes, the simple things can bite
> us the worst.
>

Plus, are you in the IRC channel? Have you asked for help there?

all the best,

drew

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