Re: [RDD] CentOS 7 to CentOS 8

[Bob Reite]

I just built a new Rivendell machine.  Rather than deal with possible
dependency issues, I simply installed CentOS 7 on a virgin hard drive,
then installed the appliance from Paravel.   CentOS is still available
and will remain supported until 30 June 2024.

On 3/21/20 1:36 PM, David Klann wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
> 
> On 3/21/20 10:02 AM, you wrote:
>> Would this work to update CentOS 7 to CentOS 8 with Rivendell being on
>> the system?
>> https://www.tecmint.com/upgrade-centos-7-to-centos-8/
> 
> While these instructions may work to perform a CentOS upgrade to CentOS
> 8, I expect you will then be unable to run Rivendell due to its
> dependencies. I have not attempted to follow those instructions to
> upgrade a CentOS 7 system, but I *have* attempted (unsuccessfully) to
> compile Rivendell 3 on fresh CentOS 8 virtual machine.
> 
> Not naming names, I think we are waiting for
> *one-who-is-way-smarter-than-we* to port Rivendell to CentOS 8. I also
> expect this is a non-trivial task.
> 
>   ~David Klann
> 

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Re: [RDD] Adding Remote desktop

[Bob Reite]

Try using dwservice.net  Yes, they have a Linux server and no "viewer"
program is needed, just an HTML-5 compliant web browser.

On 6/11/19 12:25 AM, ija...@jamcorbroadcast.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I have been Tried to adding remote desktop to our Rivendell system, with
> no Sucess.
> I tried with X11VNC also TigerVNC. does any on have Remote deskop
> working and can provide a step.
> by step guide
> With XllVNC you try to connect with VNC It says no connection Available
> when You manual start the server.
> X11VNC is was set up with the system.
> 
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> 
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Re: [RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower

[Bob Reite]

Agreed.  I have a client running a Dell.  I got him back on the air by
putting in a standard ATX power supply with the DVD drive disconnected
and the machine laying on it's side with the power supply on the table.

I found a used working Dell supply on Ebay for a replacement and I plan
to repair the dead supply as a spare.

On 12/4/18 11:32 AM, Rob Landry wrote:
> 
> In my experience, Dell machines don't take industry standard parts. If a
> power supply fails, you need a Dell power supply, and one for that
> particular model, as they are not necessarily the same from model to model.
> 
> I prefer machines that use standard ATX power supplies, standard
> CD/DVD-RW drives, etc. And, because I usually need a certain number of
> PCI or PCI-e slots, serial ports, and what not, I often prefer to build
> my own machines around motherboards of my choosing.
> 
> 
> Rob
> 
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website and Wiki

[Bob Reite]

100% agreed that it should be open source. There are a lot of open
source solutions to choose from, we should pick the best.

On 1/29/18 7:00 PM, Andy Higginson wrote:
> I was more thinking of the main part of the site for the Wordpress rather 
> than the Wiki.  The wiki I think should be like it is at the moment, a 
> separate area on the site.  The question also needs to be asked, is a Wiki 
> the best model to use for the support side of things or is there an 
> alternative solution in the wild?  Whatever solution is used, I personally 
> feel that it should be open source.
> 
> 
>> On 29 Jan 2018, at 23:43, Bob Reite  wrote:
>>
>> I think there are better content management systems than Wordpress for a
>> Wiki.   75% of Wordpress sites in the wild have security problems.
>>
>> On 1/29/18 6:36 PM, Andy Higginson wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just over a year ago, we were discussing here on the mailing list the
>>> subject of the Rivendell website and Wiki.  As a response to this I
>>> knocked together a possible idea for a replacement site using Wordpress
>>> http://test.higgles.co.uk/  This is something that is probably worth
>>> having another bash at getting off the ground.  Is there any interest in
>>> getting this moving?
>>>
>>> Also, the Wiki is looking rather dated.  There are a number of dead and
>>> dated links within the even the first few paragraphs of the wiki.  For
>>> example,  under Evaluating Rivendell, the link to the Broadcast
>>> Appliance is dead, as is the outdated OpenSuse 11.2 link.  Also,
>>> RRAbunti is totally out of date by a number of versions of both Ubuntu
>>> and Rivendell.  This is something that should really be addressed so
>>> that Rivendell is not seen as being a dead project by somebody just
>>> browsing the site for the first time.
>>>
>>> How we go about all of this I don’t know.  However I do think it could
>>> be time for the Wiki to be rebuilt from scratch - this possibly being
>>> easier than trying to edit all of the articles to make them up to date.
>>>
>>> I’m sorry if I have come over as being very negative.  I hope this will
>>> be point of starting to get things updated.
>>>
>>> Andy  
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website and Wiki

[Bob Reite]

I think there are better content management systems than Wordpress for a
Wiki.   75% of Wordpress sites in the wild have security problems.

On 1/29/18 6:36 PM, Andy Higginson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just over a year ago, we were discussing here on the mailing list the
> subject of the Rivendell website and Wiki.  As a response to this I
> knocked together a possible idea for a replacement site using Wordpress
> http://test.higgles.co.uk/  This is something that is probably worth
> having another bash at getting off the ground.  Is there any interest in
> getting this moving?
> 
> Also, the Wiki is looking rather dated.  There are a number of dead and
> dated links within the even the first few paragraphs of the wiki.  For
> example,  under Evaluating Rivendell, the link to the Broadcast
> Appliance is dead, as is the outdated OpenSuse 11.2 link.  Also,
> RRAbunti is totally out of date by a number of versions of both Ubuntu
> and Rivendell.  This is something that should really be addressed so
> that Rivendell is not seen as being a dead project by somebody just
> browsing the site for the first time.
> 
> How we go about all of this I don’t know.  However I do think it could
> be time for the Wiki to be rebuilt from scratch - this possibly being
> easier than trying to edit all of the articles to make them up to date.
> 
> I’m sorry if I have come over as being very negative.  I hope this will
> be point of starting to get things updated.
> 
> Andy  
> 
> 
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Re: [RDD] USB audio with appliance dvd

[Bob Reite]

I've never had a happy day with Cent OS.  Much better results with
Ubuntu or Debian.

On 10/16/17 8:12 PM, Tim Camp wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> Unless someone can offer a solution I guess I'm going to have to stay on
> Ubuntu.
> I have tried for hours to get centos 6 to recognize my USB audio
> interface to no avail.
> 
> Works without hesitation on Ubuntu and Debian both in alsa and with Jack.
> 
> 
> In centos
> 
> Alsa says it's there.
> Jack says it's there
> 
> Neither will use it, nor will rivendell.
> 
> Just pulled the last batch of hair.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Tim Camp
> WZEW
> 
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Re: [RDD] rivendellaudio.org/paravelsystems.com down?

[Bob Reite]

I'm getting to paravelsystems.com OK from Comcast.

On 4/3/16 2:55 PM, Mike Carroll wrote:

Hi, folks. I'm currently unable to get to the Paravel Systems
repositories at paravelsystems.com .  A trace
route shows it's dying following after a node called "vidsys.com
". Anyone else having problems?  Thanks.

Mike C


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Re: [RDD] RD Appliance - what's the latest?

[Bob Reite]

I tried the version 2.1.2 on a test machine and had problems getting it 
to recognize my ASI6044 card.  So I reverted to the Paravel 1.0.0 
version, which worked perfectly with the ASI6044 card out of the box.


Another distribution to consider if you are going to try and "get by" 
with the sound card built onto the motherboard is the Ubuntu 10.04 based 
RRAbuntu (http://rrabuntu.sorceforge.net)  This one came right up with a 
test log installed.  It would not work with the AudioScience card 
without installing the drivers.


On 11/15/13, 11:14 PM, Keith Thelen wrote:

Hello all!

I've been out of the loop for a while… what's the current, stable, recommended 
version of a/the Rivendell Appliance, and where might one obtain it?

The Appliance offered on Paravel's site claims to be version 1.0.0 (not sure 
how that correlates to the Rivendell version within). I know there are 
third-party releases as well, but I don't have a grasp on what's what.

For my boxes, I've normally built Rivendell from source on top of whatever 
version of SuSE was current. But this is for a prospective new user, so I want 
to put them on the best possible (most hassle-free) path.



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Re: [RDD] Touch Laptop

[Bob Reite]

If you aren't going to turn it into a Linux box, you can get rid of 
"Metro" and make it look and work like Windows 7 by downloading and 
installing "Classic Shell".  Classic Shell is free.

On 5/15/13 9:34 AM, Cowboy wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 May 2013 08:43:17 am Alan Peterson wrote:
>> Seeing on the Tiger Direct website that they have an ASUS "Vivobook" laptop 
>> (item A50-116407) for $399, tricked out pretty well: touchscreen, 500GB 
>> drive, i3 proc, 4GB RAM and a few other shiny sparkly things.
>>
>> On the downside, it clocks at an unimpressive 1.8 GHz and comes with (ew...) 
>> Win8.
>
>   I've found that processor speed is most important for boxes running newer 
> versions
>   of Micro$oft offings, but not so much for well managed OS that isn't 
> primarily GUI.
>   For M$, you need both the fastest processor possible with the most RAM you 
> can
>   cram into the thing. Surprisingly, M$ Office wastes a tremendous number of
>   clock cycles on who-knows-what, and really needs a fast processor for things
>   like Word. Not so much for things like playing video. Go figure.
>
>   For *nix non-GUI based, I'll take a 1.5 or 2 gig processor with more RAM, 
> more L2 cache,
>   and faster buss speed any day, every day.
>
>> How viable would this sound as a portable touchscreen RD box, for use at 
>> remotes et al?
>
>   Find one somewhere you can play with for a minute. ( Best Buy, whatever )
>   Boot up a LiveCD and you should know very quickly.
>   It appears the whole touch screen push is to copy smart phones, so be 
> warned but if
>   you can calibrate it properly, it could be a neat thing.
>
>   A week or two ago, I bought an HP-2000 at Staples for $300. Looked like a 
> good deal, but
>   came with Win8. ( almost as bad as KDE-4 )
>   Took some doing to get a LiveCD going. Something about the internal USB and 
> SATA stuff.
>   After I'd done that, HATED the machine !
>   Ran OK, but the esoterics of trying to make it a Win8 smart-phone emulator 
> just sucked
>   for trying to use it as a computer.
>   Fortunately, and a condition of my purchase, is a two week return window for
>   no reason at all.
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Re: [RDD] CART Chunk

[Bob Reite]

I had no problem importing .wav files with CART Chunk using rdimport. 
It even correctly has the title, artist and other fields in the 
Rivendell database after the import.

On 2/14/13 5:02 AM, Marc Steele wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We've been experimenting with CART Chunk and importing into Rivendell.
> It appears that Rivendell will fail to import audio (manually or in a
> dropbox) as it claims WAVE files with CART chunks are invalid. That
> said, it's not the only system I've come across that does this.
>
> Are there plans for Rivendell to support CART chunk fully (including
> things like markers) or we best trying to process the files using a
> bit of in-house glueware to edit then place them directly into the
> Rivendell database?
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [RDD] Probably a beginner question....

[Bob Reite]

I found that when I batch imported audio from a Scott Studios system, 
all of the cart chunk data was transferred, including title, artist, 
duration, and intro times.  YMMV.

On 1/10/12 6:07 AM, Andy McCall wrote:
> Hi all
> We need to import a huge amount of audio into rivendell, taking as
> little time as possible. Is there any way of getting the system to
> automatically detect things like segue points? Or will it have to be
> done on a file by file basis? We're running version 1.7.2 on Debian 5.
> Thanks for your advice in advance
> Andy
>
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Re: [RDD] Scott Studios Wave Format

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One of my biggest gripes about Scott Studios is that it doesn't play MP3 
files, they have to be converted into something else first.  Maybe not a 
big deal if it's just 60 sec spots, but one of the stations that I take 
care of gets hour long programs as MP3 files that have to be converted 
in TLC.  I haven't found a command line utility yet for doing that.

Try creating a test file with rdlibrary and see if the SS-32 machine 
will play it properly.  If that works, I believe there are ways to 
invoke rdlibrary from a command line or batch file.

On 11/27/11 3:58 PM, kRis wrote:
>
> Thanks much for the reply.  I think I may have been a bit ambiguous with my
> question.  I do indeed have the TLC utility, but I am looking for a
> command line way of creating the files so I can use it in scripting
> (eg to download a show or weather forecast, etc. and automagically
> make it a propper SP file).  I was hoping that Rivendell may have some
> kind of command line util (or make use of something similar to sox)
> that would accomplish this.
>
> Since SS data is mostly csv files (aired logs, schedules, etc.) I've
> been able to write many useful bash scripts to do things like:  Tell
> me when my station is off time, send me a jabber message if I'm about
> to miss a spot, text me if the logs aren't loaded by 7p, etc.  Being
> able to create the SS wave files with a script is the key thing that
> is keeping me from automating myself out of a job :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Subject: Re: [RDD] Scott Studios Wave Format
>> To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System
>>  
>> Message-ID:<4ed25313.8020...@telcen.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> As I recall Scott Studios puts the metadata at the beginning of the
>> file.  Cart Chunk may be placed at the end of the file.
>>
>> If you already have SS-32, you should have the TLC utility for creating
>> audio files for the system.  Use TLC to import audio into Scott Studios,
>> and then when you are ready to switch to Rivendell, use the rdimport
>> utility to migrate your audio files into Rivendell.
>>
>> I took this approach when building a backup automation system for a
>> client.  They aren't ready yet to part with their main SS-32 system, but
>> because of too frequent T-1 outages, they needed backup audio at the
>> transmitter site.  The import worked well.
>>
>> You can also try creating an audio file in rdlibrary, then see if your
>> SS-32 system will read it.
>>
>> On 11/27/11 3:23 AM, kRis wrote:
>>> Greetings!
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a linux util that will allow me to create Scott
>>> Studios wave files.  I see Rivendell has the ability to read the
>>> headers.  Can it also write them?
>>>
>>> If not, does anyone have any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks much for any help.  Someday I hope to migrate to rivendell and
>>> be done with SS forever, but for now its what I have.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [RDD] Scott Studios Wave Format

[Bob Reite]

As I recall Scott Studios puts the metadata at the beginning of the 
file.  Cart Chunk may be placed at the end of the file.

If you already have SS-32, you should have the TLC utility for creating 
audio files for the system.  Use TLC to import audio into Scott Studios, 
and then when you are ready to switch to Rivendell, use the rdimport 
utility to migrate your audio files into Rivendell.

I took this approach when building a backup automation system for a 
client.  They aren't ready yet to part with their main SS-32 system, but 
because of too frequent T-1 outages, they needed backup audio at the 
transmitter site.  The import worked well.

You can also try creating an audio file in rdlibrary, then see if your 
SS-32 system will read it.

On 11/27/11 3:23 AM, kRis wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I'm looking for a linux util that will allow me to create Scott
> Studios wave files.  I see Rivendell has the ability to read the
> headers.  Can it also write them?
>
> If not, does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Thanks much for any help.  Someday I hope to migrate to rivendell and
> be done with SS forever, but for now its what I have.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RDD] Fallback or "Emergency" log for RDAirPlay in case of missing log?

[Bob Reite]

On 11/13/11 8:46 AM, Rob Landry wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011, Bob Reite wrote:
>
>> Is there any way to make RDAirPlay load and play a "default" or
>> "fallback" log in case the next days log is missing?  As it stands now
>> the system simply quits if the log being chained to is missing.
>
> My way around this has been to name the logs Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
> Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. If something prevents the creation
> of tomorrow's log, last week's will run.
>

That works for my non-commercial client who just runs pretty much the 
same schedule every week, but my commercial client wants date logs to 
agree with their traffic system.

> Rob
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[RDD] Fallback or "Emergency" log for RDAirPlay in case of missing log?

[Bob Reite]

Is there any way to make RDAirPlay load and play a "default" or 
"fallback" log in case the next days log is missing?  As it stands now 
the system simply quits if the log being chained to is missing.

Other automation systems such as Scott Studios let you define a 
"default" log that gets loaded if it can't find the next daily log.
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