Re: [RDD] Conference?
Hi, Am Montag, den 10.11.2014, 12:25 +0100 schrieb Alban Peignier: But it would be easier if we can organize an European Rivendell Conference :) Paris is a great place in spring ;) I would join a European conference! :) What about a meeting during next FOSDEM (February, Brussels)? But I would also support the idea to improve documentation, howtos etc. I tried it a few weeks ago, but the resonance wasn't really big. Best, Keywan -- Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni m...@prometoys.net http://www.prometoys.net ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Conference?
Hi all, A Rivendell conference would be great. It could either be stand alone or incorporated into either a General Radio Conference or perhaps a Linux Conference. Indeed it's really a great idea. A lot of people have nice experiences to share with Rivendell and the free software solutions. But it would be easier if we can organize an European Rivendell Conference :) Paris is a great place in spring ;) Regards, -- Alban Peignier - al...@tryphon.eu Tryphon : Radio, Web et Logiciels Libres http://www.tryphon.eu ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Conference?
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Cowboy wrote: On Thursday 06 November 2014 01:23:06 pm Brian McKelvey wrote: It's almost like the lexicon of knowledge is only picked up through on-the-job involvement and exposure to it, We call it job security.:) Unfortunately, what tends to happen is the broadcasting facility gets sold, the new owners see an unfamiliar system with no documentation, and they immediately trash it and install something they know. More often than not, they won't even buy the studio building, but will build new studios in the building that houses their other stations. A colleague of mine was hired a few years ago as the GM of a public radio station owned by a small college down south. Two years later, the station was sold to Alabama Public Radio, which didn't even bother to build new studios; they only wanted the station as a repeater for their statewide network. The whole staff was let go. Ain't no job security in this business. Rob___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
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The biggest problem I found with screen recording on Linux is most of them have the audio get wildly out of sync with the video, obviously a big problem when demoing Rivendell! That said I recently found that simplescreenrecorder works well with syncing and I've been using it to do some Minecraft vids. I've not tried it yet but it has JACK support: http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/recording-game-audio/ Steve (aukondk) On 7 November 2014 03:03, Brian McKelvey theturtl...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great idea! YouTube is awesome for this kind of thing. I use it constantly to learn about other things, particularly hobbyist electronics (Arduono, raspberry Pi, etc.), and the maker movement. I'd offer to work on making a few videos but I'm afraid I wouldn't be best suited to it because of the aforementioned issues. Anyone know of good screencast-oriented video capture software for Linux? Brian Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Brandon Sossamon brandon.sossa...@gmail.com wrote: I'd support a conference but it may make more sense to host a webinar for those too far away or without time to dedicate to the travel. At minimum, a YouTube channel for how-to's. Perhaps folks could submit suggestions for content and a topic (or a topic suggested by more than one individual) is chosen each week and a video is produced. I've found some Linux YouTube channels are helpful just to understand it in a general sense which has helped me grasp the inner workings of RD a little better/faster. brandon sossamon ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -- Stephen Ward Admin - aukondk.com ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
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...or VNC out of a Windows machine. brandon sossamon On Nov 7, 2014 4:49 AM, Stephen Ward auko...@aukondk.com wrote: The biggest problem I found with screen recording on Linux is most of them have the audio get wildly out of sync with the video, obviously a big problem when demoing Rivendell! That said I recently found that simplescreenrecorder works well with syncing and I've been using it to do some Minecraft vids. I've not tried it yet but it has JACK support: http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/recording-game-audio/ Steve (aukondk) On 7 November 2014 03:03, Brian McKelvey theturtl...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great idea! YouTube is awesome for this kind of thing. I use it constantly to learn about other things, particularly hobbyist electronics (Arduono, raspberry Pi, etc.), and the maker movement. I'd offer to work on making a few videos but I'm afraid I wouldn't be best suited to it because of the aforementioned issues. Anyone know of good screencast-oriented video capture software for Linux? Brian Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Brandon Sossamon brandon.sossa...@gmail.com wrote: I'd support a conference but it may make more sense to host a webinar for those too far away or without time to dedicate to the travel. At minimum, a YouTube channel for how-to's. Perhaps folks could submit suggestions for content and a topic (or a topic suggested by more than one individual) is chosen each week and a video is produced. I've found some Linux YouTube channels are helpful just to understand it in a general sense which has helped me grasp the inner workings of RD a little better/faster. brandon sossamon ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -- Stephen Ward Admin - aukondk.com ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
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Good ideas, thanks for the leads :) On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Brandon Sossamon brandon.sossa...@gmail.com wrote: ...or VNC out of a Windows machine. brandon sossamon On Nov 7, 2014 4:49 AM, Stephen Ward auko...@aukondk.com wrote: The biggest problem I found with screen recording on Linux is most of them have the audio get wildly out of sync with the video, obviously a big problem when demoing Rivendell! That said I recently found that simplescreenrecorder works well with syncing and I've been using it to do some Minecraft vids. I've not tried it yet but it has JACK support: http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/recording-game-audio/ Steve (aukondk) On 7 November 2014 03:03, Brian McKelvey theturtl...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great idea! YouTube is awesome for this kind of thing. I use it constantly to learn about other things, particularly hobbyist electronics (Arduono, raspberry Pi, etc.), and the maker movement. I'd offer to work on making a few videos but I'm afraid I wouldn't be best suited to it because of the aforementioned issues. Anyone know of good screencast-oriented video capture software for Linux? Brian Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Brandon Sossamon brandon.sossa...@gmail.com wrote: I'd support a conference but it may make more sense to host a webinar for those too far away or without time to dedicate to the travel. At minimum, a YouTube channel for how-to's. Perhaps folks could submit suggestions for content and a topic (or a topic suggested by more than one individual) is chosen each week and a video is produced. I've found some Linux YouTube channels are helpful just to understand it in a general sense which has helped me grasp the inner workings of RD a little better/faster. brandon sossamon ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -- Stephen Ward Admin - aukondk.com ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
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I would go and appreciate the one on one attention to Rivendell. The NAB is great but you won't get the much needed, thorough, explanation of Rivendell. I would also want to send others in our organization, like our Linux IT specialist, who is not too familiar with Rivendell...Of course this depends on the date. Thank you for your desire to do this. *Kelly* KDKR KYJC 91.3 FM Dallas/Fort Worth/Commerce/North Texas *Also heard on: 99.9 FM and 97.5 FM, in many additional areas of the DFW Metroplex* *~Your Stations For Life~ 2 Peter 3:18* ___ Kelly Rasulo, General Manager 5617 Diamond Oaks Dr., South, Suite 200, Fort Worth, TX 76117 817.831.9130/Local 877.588.9130/Toll Free 888.781.6007/Fax Listen On-line: *www.kdkr.org* http://www.kdkr.org/ Penfold Communications, Inc. Network - KDKR, KYJC, KRTM, KKRS, KTWD, WKJA, WTPG, WJIK, WIGW Translator K260BP, K248BC, W207CB On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Cowboy c...@cwf1.com wrote: On Wednesday 05 November 2014 03:28:40 pm b B wrote: Has there been a Rivendell all-users conference? Kinda sorta, but not really. Best, is the NAB Spring show, since the bulk of professional broadcasters are there anyway, from everywhere in the world. That way, there are many, MANY things to afford cost justification, and setting up a users group meeting would be trivial. Free passes are so easy to come by, it's hardly worth mentioning. Shows are scheduled years in advance, so scheduling is well known. Show accommodations often afford reasonable discounts, and NAB itself provides transportation from the NAB deal hotels, so you don't even need a car. Not to mention, usually years preview of the toys of the trade To me, the only down-side, is that it's always in Vegas ! -- Cowboy http://cowboy.cwf1.com Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like `Psychic Wins Lottery'? -- Jay Leno ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
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I second the move to documentation. I honestly don't have nearly as much the Rivendell experience as many others here. I have it installed on a machine in my office but am not using it for anything still, despite interest, because the task of learning how to use to its full potential is daunting. For me, however, it's not daunting from a technical perspective: I'm totally confident in my ability to get up and running on whatever kind of setup I would want to build. I'm a software engineer who has been working deeply and daily with Linux since 1999. The part that's difficult for me is all the legacy and industry-specific concepts, terminology, and jargon from the radio industry. I started playing with Rivendell in about 2003 when I was going to school at Biola University, studying film audio engineering. There was a basically-dead on-campus radio station that had been running a Winamp playlist on repeat, and the studio was full of old and broken gear and badly needed a new paint job, console repairs, new (non-fluorescent) lighting, etc., and also needed an actual radio automation system. My friend and I were the only ones who had any interest, so we went in and re-did everything ourselves on a shoestring budget. Because of my Linux experience, I was able to set it up with an NFS server to host the audio files and act as Windows domain controller with roaming profiles for the students to have their own accounts on the production machines and be able to add content to watch folders from their dorm rooms, etc. I even wrote custom content ingestion and processing scripts. What was missing for me, and still is to this day, is understanding what a lot of the radio-specific terminology even means. The jargon used in radio is so unique and distinct from other areas of broadcast and especially different what I was most involved in, film production. The radio industry seems to have different or special names for things things oftentimes that are different from how everyone else refers to them, and there are a lot of radio specific concepts or legacy concepts or metaphors that are long-since obsolete and probably should be done away with but we keep around because their usage is so entrenched amongst industry veterans. Referring to carts and cuts for example. Someone coming into this arena who's never worked with magnetic tape before and lived in the digital realm their entire lives wouldn't have the slightest idea what a cart was. I guess my overly long-winded point is, I agree there is a very real need for documentation. And not specifically technical documentation, but information about what radio automation even is, a complete rundown of exactly what it is, and what all the other parts that go with it are (3rd party traffic scheduling software, for example.) I had to figure those terms and concepts out on my own, with little help or guidance, mostly by trial and error, pushing buttons and entering data to see what happened. There's still a good easily 50% of the concepts and UI in Rivendell that I still have absolutely no idea whatsoever what it might be used for. Clocks, dayparts, scheduler codes, I have only a surface-level idea about those things, but not enough to really understand how to use the music scheduler, so I've always been stuck with manually created logs. For years, up until recently, I had absolutely no idea what on earth was meant by traffic. The only thing I could imagine was that it had something to do with reporters talking about morning-drive freeway congestion. I understand now that it has to do with scheduling and tracking ads, PSAs, promos, etc., but only a surface level understanding... There's probably more that's encompassed? (And traffic? Really? What on earth do ads and promos have to do with traffic? I'm sure there's a totally logical and historical explanation for why it's called traffic, but given that I can't imagine what it might be, that's a clear indication that we ought to start migrating towards a more modern and clear term) Mind you, I'm extremely adept at using Google to find answers. I rarely post asking for help, especially when I feel like I should be able to find the answers on my own. But Google isn't always terribly helpful at finding information about concepts and terminology that are uniquely used by radio-industry professionals. It's almost like the lexicon of knowledge is only picked up through on-the-job involvement and exposure to it, and then when people do post or discuss things online, there's a base assumption that everyone already knows the concepts. I've seen relatively few resources geared toward someone from the outside trying to learn the language. The concepts terminology around music and traffic scheduling, for example, are so daunting that on multiple occasions I'd almost considered diving into the MySQL schema and just writing my own music scheduling
Re: [RDD] Conference?
On Thursday 06 November 2014 01:23:06 pm Brian McKelvey wrote: It's almost like the lexicon of knowledge is only picked up through on-the-job involvement and exposure to it, We call it job security.:) Truth be told, you are right ! Like many fields, the terms and jargon *as used* are often picked up only through association with the field. As an apprentice, if you will. -- Cowboy http://cowboy.cwf1.com The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. -- Bohr ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
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I'd support a conference but it may make more sense to host a webinar for those too far away or without time to dedicate to the travel. At minimum, a YouTube channel for how-to's. Perhaps folks could submit suggestions for content and a topic (or a topic suggested by more than one individual) is chosen each week and a video is produced. I've found some Linux YouTube channels are helpful just to understand it in a general sense which has helped me grasp the inner workings of RD a little better/faster. brandon sossamon ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Conference?
This is a great idea! YouTube is awesome for this kind of thing. I use it constantly to learn about other things, particularly hobbyist electronics (Arduono, raspberry Pi, etc.), and the maker movement. I'd offer to work on making a few videos but I'm afraid I wouldn't be best suited to it because of the aforementioned issues. Anyone know of good screencast-oriented video capture software for Linux? Brian Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Brandon Sossamon brandon.sossa...@gmail.com wrote: I'd support a conference but it may make more sense to host a webinar for those too far away or without time to dedicate to the travel. At minimum, a YouTube channel for how-to's. Perhaps folks could submit suggestions for content and a topic (or a topic suggested by more than one individual) is chosen each week and a video is produced. I've found some Linux YouTube channels are helpful just to understand it in a general sense which has helped me grasp the inner workings of RD a little better/faster. brandon sossamon ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
