Re: [RDD] Overscheduling & Top of Hour

2011-09-19 Thread Beau Gast
I've done a dump of the database and taken a look at the actual top of
the hour as created in the event creator and scheduled by the log
manager when the logs from Selector are imported and this is what I
see as the string for the top of each hour:

204741,322,'WUUU_2010_12_16',1017,70,23,'TOP OF THE HOUR
LEGAL','','','','','',0,'','wuuu','2010-12-16
23:59:58','23:59:58',3,3,1,4,'N','00:00:00',0,'','','',''

Now if I could just figure out how to extrapolate the time markers out
of this and place them into the Selector program as a breaknote I'd be
good as gold.

Anybody have any suggestions? All I need is an example of the proper
string that I can base each hour on that would be recognized by
Rivendell's import function.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Beau Gast wrote:
>
>> To really make Rivendell commercially viable it *has* to have a
>> build-in function to completely control every element of the playlist
>> via the build-in scheduler OR an external scheduler. EVERY other major
>> automation system has this function built into some sort of code
>> inserted in the playlist via the scheduling program. For example this
>> is how to trigger a "soft-branch" that jumps the playlist to the next
>> hour in Scott Studios via the Selector scheduling program:
>>
>> 00:00,*,LI4,DA0011,"LEGAL ID (FM Only)",,00:20,
>
> Does the Rivendell import process not know how to read this and interpret
> it as "make next"?
>
> Four years ago I needed to import a log into Rivendell systems at nine
> different stations simultaneously, and it needed to happen automatically
> with no human intervention. I wrote a Perl script to read the logs and
> create corresponding tables and entries in the Rivendell database. The
> logs were full of time jumps of both the hard and soft variety, so my
> script handles them correctly.
>
> The chief drawback of my approach is that whenever the database scheme is
> updated, my script needs to be modified accordingly. I'd much prefer to be
> able to upload logs as text files into something like an audio file drop
> box and have them appear automagically as Rivendell logs. I don't recall
> such a feature existing in 2007; does it now?
>
>
> Rob
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Re: [RDD] Overscheduling & Top of Hour

2011-09-19 Thread Rob Landry


On Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Beau Gast wrote:

> To really make Rivendell commercially viable it *has* to have a
> build-in function to completely control every element of the playlist
> via the build-in scheduler OR an external scheduler. EVERY other major
> automation system has this function built into some sort of code
> inserted in the playlist via the scheduling program. For example this
> is how to trigger a "soft-branch" that jumps the playlist to the next
> hour in Scott Studios via the Selector scheduling program:
>
> 00:00,*,LI4,DA0011,"LEGAL ID (FM Only)",,00:20,

Does the Rivendell import process not know how to read this and interpret 
it as "make next"?

Four years ago I needed to import a log into Rivendell systems at nine 
different stations simultaneously, and it needed to happen automatically 
with no human intervention. I wrote a Perl script to read the logs and 
create corresponding tables and entries in the Rivendell database. The 
logs were full of time jumps of both the hard and soft variety, so my 
script handles them correctly.

The chief drawback of my approach is that whenever the database scheme is 
updated, my script needs to be modified accordingly. I'd much prefer to be 
able to upload logs as text files into something like an audio file drop 
box and have them appear automagically as Rivendell logs. I don't recall 
such a feature existing in 2007; does it now?


Rob
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Re: [RDD] Overscheduling & Top of Hour

2011-09-17 Thread Gavin Stephens
When you create an event, you can right click in the pre-import carts 
area and insert a possition for a voicetrack - that's yet to be recorded.

On 2011-09-18 13:33, Beau Gast wrote:
> Most of the large groups and stations across the country that are
> music-intensive HAVE to have COMPLETE control over the placement of
> elements in a log. There CANNOT be an "it will place it over an
> element" or "it will place it where it feels like it".
>
> In my case I have to have a jock bed fire with a voicetrack and then
> an out of bed liner which goes into the first song in the playlist.
> For example:
>
> 07:00:1290 40103:1300  C   Top of HourKickoff
> Legal ID with Bed
> VOICETRACK
> 07:00:1290 40103:1300  C   Top of HourFull Legal
> 07:00:1290 40103:1300  C   Flynville Train Last Good Time
>
> If ANY of those elements drop it destroys the log completely.
>
> To really make Rivendell commercially viable it *has* to have a
> build-in function to completely control every element of the playlist
> via the build-in scheduler OR an external scheduler. EVERY other major
> automation system has this function built into some sort of code
> inserted in the playlist via the scheduling program. For example this
> is how to trigger a "soft-branch" that jumps the playlist to the next
> hour in Scott Studios via the Selector scheduling program:
>
> 00:00,*,LI4,DA0011,"LEGAL ID (FM Only)",,00:20,
>
> The ",*," is what makes the element trigger the next hour and it
> functions as a "make next" in Rivendell terminology. The import
> function should scan for this code in the playlist and automatically
> understand that the element is to be the first at the top of the hour.
>
> Not trying to be irritated here but I'm pulling my hair out right now!
>
> Off-topic...can you schedule a voicetrack position via the built-in
> scheduler? That would be a work-around for me if it can be done.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Gavin Stephens  
> wrote:
>> Same here.
>>
>> On 2011-09-17 23:22, Alan Peterson wrote:
>>> Agreed. Make the Legal ID an actual Rivendell timed event; not an audio 
>>> file laid out as part of a Selector log.
>>> -AP
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Robert Jeffares"
>>> To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation 
>>> System"
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:52:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>> Subject: Re: [RDD] Overscheduling&Top of Hour
>>>
>>>
>>> I would run an event which has the Legal ID in it which is done in 
>>> rivendell not Selector.
>>>
>>>
>>> The legal can be set to play at the top of the hour and bump the over fills 
>>> by selecting play at scheduled time
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Beau Gast<beaug...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> We use approximately 6-8 minutes of overscheduled music per hour. Our
>>> music is scheduled via Selector. Every hour at the top of the hour we
>>> place a Legal ID via a log event that also moves us to the next hour
>>> in the Selector playlist.
>>>
>>> The issue I am having is the placement of the top of hour id. I am
>>> unable to control where Rivendell places this ID resulting in the
>>> station playing 2 IDs in a row.
>>>
>>> I have tried making a "13th hour" in Selector where music is scheduled
>>> like this:
>>> 01:55:05001656 401 03:59 Keith Anderson Stick
>>> It
>>> 01:59:0490 00:10 Liners
>>> 01:59:14002452 401 03:4407 C Eric Church Home
>>> Boy
>>> 01:62:5890 00:10 Liners
>>> 01:63:08000766 401 04:0900 F Mark McGuinn Bring
>>> 'em Back
>>> - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
>>> 02:00:1682 401 03:04 Toby Keith She's A
>>> Hottie
>>> 02:03:0490 00:10 Liners
>>> 02:03:14001667 401 03:44 Montgomery Gentry Back
>>> When I Knew It All
>>> 02:06:5890 00:10 Liners
>>> 02:07:08002488 401 03:2218 C Rodney Atkins Take A
>>> Backroad
>>>
>>> I have also tried scheduling like this:
>>>
>>> 00:58:4590 00:10 Liners
>>> 00:58:55001645 401 03:38 Aaron Lines Turn It
&g

Re: [RDD] Overscheduling & Top of Hour

2011-09-17 Thread Beau Gast
Most of the large groups and stations across the country that are
music-intensive HAVE to have COMPLETE control over the placement of
elements in a log. There CANNOT be an "it will place it over an
element" or "it will place it where it feels like it".

In my case I have to have a jock bed fire with a voicetrack and then
an out of bed liner which goes into the first song in the playlist.
For example:

07:00:1290 40103:1300  C   Top of HourKickoff
Legal ID with Bed
VOICETRACK
07:00:1290 40103:1300  C   Top of HourFull Legal
07:00:1290 40103:1300  C   Flynville Train Last Good Time

If ANY of those elements drop it destroys the log completely.

To really make Rivendell commercially viable it *has* to have a
build-in function to completely control every element of the playlist
via the build-in scheduler OR an external scheduler. EVERY other major
automation system has this function built into some sort of code
inserted in the playlist via the scheduling program. For example this
is how to trigger a "soft-branch" that jumps the playlist to the next
hour in Scott Studios via the Selector scheduling program:

00:00,*,LI4,DA0011,"LEGAL ID (FM Only)",,00:20,

The ",*," is what makes the element trigger the next hour and it
functions as a "make next" in Rivendell terminology. The import
function should scan for this code in the playlist and automatically
understand that the element is to be the first at the top of the hour.

Not trying to be irritated here but I'm pulling my hair out right now!

Off-topic...can you schedule a voicetrack position via the built-in
scheduler? That would be a work-around for me if it can be done.

Thanks!

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Gavin Stephens  wrote:
> Same here.
>
> On 2011-09-17 23:22, Alan Peterson wrote:
>> Agreed. Make the Legal ID an actual Rivendell timed event; not an audio file 
>> laid out as part of a Selector log.
>> -AP
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Robert Jeffares"
>> To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation 
>> System"
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:52:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [RDD] Overscheduling&  Top of Hour
>>
>>
>> I would run an event which has the Legal ID in it which is done in rivendell 
>> not Selector.
>>
>>
>> The legal can be set to play at the top of the hour and bump the over fills 
>> by selecting play at scheduled time
>>
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Beau Gast<  beaug...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> We use approximately 6-8 minutes of overscheduled music per hour. Our
>> music is scheduled via Selector. Every hour at the top of the hour we
>> place a Legal ID via a log event that also moves us to the next hour
>> in the Selector playlist.
>>
>> The issue I am having is the placement of the top of hour id. I am
>> unable to control where Rivendell places this ID resulting in the
>> station playing 2 IDs in a row.
>>
>> I have tried making a "13th hour" in Selector where music is scheduled
>> like this:
>> 01:55:05001656 401 03:59 Keith Anderson Stick
>> It
>> 01:59:0490 00:10 Liners
>> 01:59:14002452 401 03:4407 C Eric Church Home
>> Boy
>> 01:62:5890 00:10 Liners
>> 01:63:08000766 401 04:0900 F Mark McGuinn Bring
>> 'em Back
>> - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
>> 02:00:1682 401 03:04 Toby Keith She's A
>> Hottie
>> 02:03:0490 00:10 Liners
>> 02:03:14001667 401 03:44 Montgomery Gentry Back
>> When I Knew It All
>> 02:06:5890 00:10 Liners
>> 02:07:08002488 401 03:2218 C Rodney Atkins Take A
>> Backroad
>>
>> I have also tried scheduling like this:
>>
>> 00:58:4590 00:10 Liners
>> 00:58:55001645 401 03:38 Aaron Lines Turn It
>> Up
>> 01:02:3390 00:10 Liners
>> 01:02:43002137 401 03:2309 C Phil Vassar
>> Everywhere I Go
>> - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
>> 01:00:1445 401 03:05 Van Zant Goes
>> Down Easy
>> 01:03:0590 00:10 Liners
>> 01:03:15002074 401 04:4307 F Brad Paisley Welcome
>> To The Future
>> 01:07:5890 00:10 Liners
>> 01:08:08004059 401 03:5317 Chris Cagle Got My
>> Country On
>>
>> I have added the text of where this legal id should always be placed
>> like this : "- THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLAC

Re: [RDD] Overscheduling & Top of Hour

2011-09-17 Thread Gavin Stephens
Same here.

On 2011-09-17 23:22, Alan Peterson wrote:
> Agreed. Make the Legal ID an actual Rivendell timed event; not an audio file 
> laid out as part of a Selector log.
> -AP
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert Jeffares"
> To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation 
> System"
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:52:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [RDD] Overscheduling&  Top of Hour
>
>
> I would run an event which has the Legal ID in it which is done in rivendell 
> not Selector.
>
>
> The legal can be set to play at the top of the hour and bump the over fills 
> by selecting play at scheduled time
>
>
> regards
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Beau Gast<  beaug...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>
> Guys,
>
> We use approximately 6-8 minutes of overscheduled music per hour. Our
> music is scheduled via Selector. Every hour at the top of the hour we
> place a Legal ID via a log event that also moves us to the next hour
> in the Selector playlist.
>
> The issue I am having is the placement of the top of hour id. I am
> unable to control where Rivendell places this ID resulting in the
> station playing 2 IDs in a row.
>
> I have tried making a "13th hour" in Selector where music is scheduled
> like this:
> 01:55:05001656 401 03:59 Keith Anderson Stick
> It
> 01:59:0490 00:10 Liners
> 01:59:14002452 401 03:4407 C Eric Church Home
> Boy
> 01:62:5890 00:10 Liners
> 01:63:08000766 401 04:0900 F Mark McGuinn Bring
> 'em Back
> - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
> 02:00:1682 401 03:04 Toby Keith She's A
> Hottie
> 02:03:0490 00:10 Liners
> 02:03:14001667 401 03:44 Montgomery Gentry Back
> When I Knew It All
> 02:06:5890 00:10 Liners
> 02:07:08002488 401 03:2218 C Rodney Atkins Take A
> Backroad
>
> I have also tried scheduling like this:
>
> 00:58:4590 00:10 Liners
> 00:58:55001645 401 03:38 Aaron Lines Turn It
> Up
> 01:02:3390 00:10 Liners
> 01:02:43002137 401 03:2309 C Phil Vassar
> Everywhere I Go
> - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
> 01:00:1445 401 03:05 Van Zant Goes
> Down Easy
> 01:03:0590 00:10 Liners
> 01:03:15002074 401 04:4307 F Brad Paisley Welcome
> To The Future
> 01:07:5890 00:10 Liners
> 01:08:08004059 401 03:5317 Chris Cagle Got My
> Country On
>
> I have added the text of where this legal id should always be placed
> like this : "- THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -"
> as an example.
>
> Rivendell seems to be ignoring the log times and placing the top of
> hour based on the actual log run time. Is this behavior normal or can
> this be controlled somewhere in a setting?
>
> Does anyone have any ideas how I can control this and make sure the
> placement of this is EXACTLY at the top of the hour as determined by
> the imported playlist? I'm now at a TOTAL loss here!
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [RDD] Overscheduling & Top of Hour

2011-09-17 Thread Alan Peterson
Agreed. Make the Legal ID an actual Rivendell timed event; not an audio file 
laid out as part of a Selector log.
-AP


- Original Message -
From: "Robert Jeffares" 
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:52:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [RDD] Overscheduling & Top of Hour


I would run an event which has the Legal ID in it which is done in rivendell 
not Selector. 


The legal can be set to play at the top of the hour and bump the over fills by 
selecting play at scheduled time 


regards 

Robert 




On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Beau Gast < beaug...@gmail.com > wrote: 


Guys, 

We use approximately 6-8 minutes of overscheduled music per hour. Our 
music is scheduled via Selector. Every hour at the top of the hour we 
place a Legal ID via a log event that also moves us to the next hour 
in the Selector playlist. 

The issue I am having is the placement of the top of hour id. I am 
unable to control where Rivendell places this ID resulting in the 
station playing 2 IDs in a row. 

I have tried making a "13th hour" in Selector where music is scheduled 
like this: 
01:55:05001656 401 03:59 Keith Anderson Stick 
It 
01:59:0490 00:10 Liners 
01:59:14002452 401 03:4407 C Eric Church Home 
Boy 
01:62:5890 00:10 Liners 
01:63:08000766 401 04:0900 F Mark McGuinn Bring 
'em Back 
- THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED - 
02:00:1682 401 03:04 Toby Keith She's A 
Hottie 
02:03:0490 00:10 Liners 
02:03:14001667 401 03:44 Montgomery Gentry Back 
When I Knew It All 
02:06:5890 00:10 Liners 
02:07:08002488 401 03:2218 C Rodney Atkins Take A 
Backroad 

I have also tried scheduling like this: 

00:58:4590 00:10 Liners 
00:58:55001645 401 03:38 Aaron Lines Turn It 
Up 
01:02:3390 00:10 Liners 
01:02:43002137 401 03:2309 C Phil Vassar 
Everywhere I Go 
- THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED - 
01:00:1445 401 03:05 Van Zant Goes 
Down Easy 
01:03:0590 00:10 Liners 
01:03:15002074 401 04:4307 F Brad Paisley Welcome 
To The Future 
01:07:5890 00:10 Liners 
01:08:08004059 401 03:5317 Chris Cagle Got My 
Country On 

I have added the text of where this legal id should always be placed 
like this : "- THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -" 
as an example. 

Rivendell seems to be ignoring the log times and placing the top of 
hour based on the actual log run time. Is this behavior normal or can 
this be controlled somewhere in a setting? 

Does anyone have any ideas how I can control this and make sure the 
placement of this is EXACTLY at the top of the hour as determined by 
the imported playlist? I'm now at a TOTAL loss here! 

Thanks! 
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Re: [RDD] Overscheduling & Top of Hour

2011-09-16 Thread Robert Jeffares
I would run an event which has the Legal ID in it which is done in rivendell
not Selector.


The legal can be set to play at the top of the hour and bump the  over fills
by selecting play at scheduled time


regards

Robert



On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Beau Gast  wrote:

> Guys,
>
> We use approximately 6-8 minutes of overscheduled music per hour. Our
> music is scheduled via Selector. Every hour at the top of the hour we
> place a Legal ID via a log event that also moves us to the next hour
> in the Selector playlist.
>
> The issue I am having is the placement of the top of hour id. I am
> unable to control where Rivendell places this ID resulting in the
> station playing 2 IDs in a row.
>
> I have tried making a "13th hour" in Selector where music is scheduled
> like this:
> 01:55:05001656 40103:59Keith Anderson  Stick
> It
> 01:59:049000:10Liners
> 01:59:14002452 40103:4407  C   Eric Church Home
> Boy
> 01:62:589000:10Liners
> 01:63:08000766 40104:0900  F   Mark McGuinnBring
> 'em Back
> - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
> 02:00:1682 40103:04Toby Keith  She's A
> Hottie
> 02:03:049000:10Liners
> 02:03:14001667 40103:44Montgomery Gentry   Back
> When I Knew It All
> 02:06:589000:10Liners
> 02:07:08002488 40103:2218  C   Rodney Atkins   Take A
> Backroad
>
> I have also tried scheduling like this:
>
> 00:58:459000:10Liners
> 00:58:55001645 40103:38Aaron Lines Turn It
> Up
> 01:02:339000:10Liners
> 01:02:43002137 40103:2309  C   Phil Vassar
> Everywhere I Go
> - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
> 01:00:1445 40103:05Van ZantGoes
> Down Easy
> 01:03:059000:10Liners
> 01:03:15002074 40104:4307  F   Brad PaisleyWelcome
> To The Future
> 01:07:589000:10Liners
> 01:08:08004059 40103:5317  Chris Cagle Got My
> Country On
>
> I have added the text of where this legal id should always be placed
> like this : "- THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -"
> as an example.
>
> Rivendell seems to be ignoring the log times and placing the top of
> hour based on the actual log run time. Is this behavior normal or can
> this be controlled somewhere in a setting?
>
> Does anyone have any ideas how I can control this and make sure the
> placement of this is EXACTLY at the top of the hour as determined by
> the imported playlist? I'm now at a TOTAL loss here!
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [RDD] Overscheduling & Top of Hour

2011-09-16 Thread James Gamblin
Yep!  We do a "Make Next" in Rivendell @ :58 minutes into the hour.  Then
import as much music as I can into each Hour.  The ID should fire between
:58 & :02, it will drop excess songs that are imported.

If an hour falls a couple of minutes short, the ID will fire a little early,
but hopefully the next hour will have enough music in it to catch back up.
Not fail proof but it does what you ask it to do.

Biggest problem I have with this is that Rivendell will only allow so much
to be scheduled in each hour.  What I mean by that is you may schedule 68
minutes of music and Rivendell may drop the last song leaving only 63
minutes.  To most people that is enough to fill the hour...I like a little
insurance.

James Gamblin

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Geoff Barkman wrote:

> I presume if you are making logs with selector... and then import them
> into rivendell.
>
> What happens if you look at one of your imported logs in Rivendell logedit?
>
> My top of the hour events are either "make next" or "Start
> Immmediately" If they are like that... they should behave like your
> soft and hard time events in selector. If not there must be a fault in
> your import process of log files from selector. My experience with
> start times in rivendell are ignored unless they are make next etc.
>
> Many Thanks
> Geoff Barkman
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Beau Gast  wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > We use approximately 6-8 minutes of overscheduled music per hour. Our
> > music is scheduled via Selector. Every hour at the top of the hour we
> > place a Legal ID via a log event that also moves us to the next hour
> > in the Selector playlist.
> >
> > The issue I am having is the placement of the top of hour id. I am
> > unable to control where Rivendell places this ID resulting in the
> > station playing 2 IDs in a row.
> >
> > I have tried making a "13th hour" in Selector where music is scheduled
> > like this:
> > 01:55:05001656 40103:59Keith Anderson  Stick
> > It
> > 01:59:049000:10Liners
> > 01:59:14002452 40103:4407  C   Eric Church Home
> > Boy
> > 01:62:589000:10Liners
> > 01:63:08000766 40104:0900  F   Mark McGuinnBring
> > 'em Back
> > - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
> > 02:00:1682 40103:04Toby Keith  She's A
> > Hottie
> > 02:03:049000:10Liners
> > 02:03:14001667 40103:44Montgomery Gentry   Back
> > When I Knew It All
> > 02:06:589000:10Liners
> > 02:07:08002488 40103:2218  C   Rodney Atkins   Take A
> > Backroad
> >
> > I have also tried scheduling like this:
> >
> > 00:58:459000:10Liners
> > 00:58:55001645 40103:38Aaron Lines Turn It
> > Up
> > 01:02:339000:10Liners
> > 01:02:43002137 40103:2309  C   Phil Vassar
> > Everywhere I Go
> > - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
> > 01:00:1445 40103:05Van ZantGoes
> > Down Easy
> > 01:03:059000:10Liners
> > 01:03:15002074 40104:4307  F   Brad PaisleyWelcome
> > To The Future
> > 01:07:589000:10Liners
> > 01:08:08004059 40103:5317  Chris Cagle Got My
> > Country On
> >
> > I have added the text of where this legal id should always be placed
> > like this : "- THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -"
> > as an example.
> >
> > Rivendell seems to be ignoring the log times and placing the top of
> > hour based on the actual log run time. Is this behavior normal or can
> > this be controlled somewhere in a setting?
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas how I can control this and make sure the
> > placement of this is EXACTLY at the top of the hour as determined by
> > the imported playlist? I'm now at a TOTAL loss here!
> >
> > Thanks!
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Re: [RDD] Overscheduling & Top of Hour

2011-09-16 Thread Geoff Barkman
I presume if you are making logs with selector... and then import them
into rivendell.

What happens if you look at one of your imported logs in Rivendell logedit?

My top of the hour events are either "make next" or "Start
Immmediately" If they are like that... they should behave like your
soft and hard time events in selector. If not there must be a fault in
your import process of log files from selector. My experience with
start times in rivendell are ignored unless they are make next etc.

Many Thanks
Geoff Barkman

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Beau Gast  wrote:
> Guys,
>
> We use approximately 6-8 minutes of overscheduled music per hour. Our
> music is scheduled via Selector. Every hour at the top of the hour we
> place a Legal ID via a log event that also moves us to the next hour
> in the Selector playlist.
>
> The issue I am having is the placement of the top of hour id. I am
> unable to control where Rivendell places this ID resulting in the
> station playing 2 IDs in a row.
>
> I have tried making a "13th hour" in Selector where music is scheduled
> like this:
> 01:55:05001656 401    03:59            Keith Anderson          Stick
> It
> 01:59:0490        00:10                                    Liners
> 01:59:14002452 401    03:4407      C   Eric Church             Home
> Boy
> 01:62:5890        00:10                                    Liners
> 01:63:08000766 401    04:0900      F   Mark McGuinn            Bring
> 'em Back
> - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
> 02:00:1682 401    03:04            Toby Keith              She's A
> Hottie
> 02:03:0490        00:10                                    Liners
> 02:03:14001667 401    03:44            Montgomery Gentry       Back
> When I Knew It All
> 02:06:5890        00:10                                    Liners
> 02:07:08002488 401    03:2218      C   Rodney Atkins           Take A
> Backroad
>
> I have also tried scheduling like this:
>
> 00:58:4590        00:10                                    Liners
> 00:58:55001645 401    03:38            Aaron Lines             Turn It
> Up
> 01:02:3390        00:10                                    Liners
> 01:02:43002137 401    03:2309      C   Phil Vassar
> Everywhere I Go
> - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
> 01:00:1445 401    03:05            Van Zant                Goes
> Down Easy
> 01:03:0590        00:10                                    Liners
> 01:03:15002074 401    04:4307      F   Brad Paisley            Welcome
> To The Future
> 01:07:5890        00:10                                    Liners
> 01:08:08004059 401    03:5317          Chris Cagle             Got My
> Country On
>
> I have added the text of where this legal id should always be placed
> like this : "- THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -"
> as an example.
>
> Rivendell seems to be ignoring the log times and placing the top of
> hour based on the actual log run time. Is this behavior normal or can
> this be controlled somewhere in a setting?
>
> Does anyone have any ideas how I can control this and make sure the
> placement of this is EXACTLY at the top of the hour as determined by
> the imported playlist? I'm now at a TOTAL loss here!
>
> Thanks!
> ___
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> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
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