Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
Is anybody else experiencing what I described? Brett Patram Chief Engineer Salem Communications Cleveland WHK,WHKW,WHKZ,WFHM From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of Brett Patram Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:09 PM To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem Running Rivendell on Centos 7. I just updated to version 2.15.1 yesterday. I really am only using RDCATCH to take care of a bunch of programs that we pull down. In any case I will have RDCATCH export the programs to a network share as a PCM16, 44100KHZ mono WAV file. For some reason now, Rivendell is exporting the files corrupt. I can read them in Audacity, but all my other applications throw an error message up. It is almost as if its missing its header. I change the setting to PCM24, and it works. However the application that is pulling in the file reads it as a FLAC codec. Anyone know a good place to start looking for a fix? RDCATCH doesn't generate an error as it doesn't check files that it exports. Brett Patram Chief Engineer Salem Communications Cleveland WHK,WHKW,WHKZ,WFHM ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Brett Patram wrote: >... For some reason now, Rivendell > is exporting the files corrupt. I can read them in Audacity, but all my > other applications throw an error message up. It is almost as if its missing > its header. What does the output of 'file ' produce? A copy of its output might be helpful here. --Sherrod ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
https://filetransfer.salem.cc/message/o2ipjLogGBMpdxQKRGZaFR Link to exported file, its too big to attach here The file posted is from the output of the export when set to PCM16,44100 MONO I can get Audacity to open this, but anything else like VLC will not work. I'm having a hard time determining whats missing that wasn't before Where did the "Custom Encoders" button go in RDadmin? AudioResources does show PCM16, PCM24, OGG and FLAC as support exporters. I believe something broke during the update but I need a little help to find out where to look in the system Thank you, Brett Patram Chief Engineer Salem Communications Cleveland WHK,WHKW,WHKZ,WFHM From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of Sherrod Munday Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:14 PM To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Brett Patram wrote: >... For some reason now, Rivendell > is exporting the files corrupt. I can read them in Audacity, but all my > other applications throw an error message up. It is almost as if its missing > its header. What does the output of 'file ' produce? A copy of its output might be helpful here. --Sherrod ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev Rivendell-dev Info Page - Paravel Systems<http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev> caspian.paravelsystems.com This is for users of the Rivendell Radio Automation System. It's a place to get help as well as discuss new features. To see the collection of prior postings to the ... ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
Just some updates from what I have tried so far: Reinstalled LIBAO Reinstalled LIBsamplerate No change. Again I can export PCM16, various tools will verify it but its missing something and won't play like a normal .WAV PCM file would, thus my ingest machine fails on all the files now. This just started after I updated CENTOS and Rivendell packages through its Software Update tool. And oddly enough, if I select PCM24 and export a cart, it actually reads as FLAC codec. If I select MPEG 2, it won't even write out the file, actually I should have a log message on that one at least Very confused, what am I missing? Brett Patram Chief Engineer Salem Communications Cleveland WHK,WHKW,WHKZ,WFHM From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of Brett Patram Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:32 PM To: Sherrod Munday; rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem https://filetransfer.salem.cc/message/o2ipjLogGBMpdxQKRGZaFR Link to exported file, its too big to attach here The file posted is from the output of the export when set to PCM16,44100 MONO I can get Audacity to open this, but anything else like VLC will not work. I'm having a hard time determining whats missing that wasn't before Where did the "Custom Encoders" button go in RDadmin? AudioResources does show PCM16, PCM24, OGG and FLAC as support exporters. I believe something broke during the update but I need a little help to find out where to look in the system Thank you, Brett Patram Chief Engineer Salem Communications Cleveland WHK,WHKW,WHKZ,WFHM From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of Sherrod Munday Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:14 PM To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Brett Patram wrote: >... For some reason now, Rivendell > is exporting the files corrupt. I can read them in Audacity, but all my > other applications throw an error message up. It is almost as if its missing > its header. What does the output of 'file ' produce? A copy of its output might be helpful here. --Sherrod ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev Rivendell-dev Info Page - Paravel Systems<http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev> caspian.paravelsystems.com This is for users of the Rivendell Radio Automation System. It's a place to get help as well as discuss new features. To see the collection of prior postings to the ... ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
Thank you it does. Did your instance start having the issue after doing the software update or did it exist prior? Brett Patram, CE On Aug 20, 2016 8:51 AM, Al Peterson wrote: Brett, Here in Northern Virginia, I'm experiencing similar behavior: An exported WAV file opens as a flat line in both Cool Edit Pro and Adobe Audition, but opens properly in Audacity. I tried unchecking the "export metadata" box, but got the same results. I don't know if this report is helpful, but I'm seeing it too. Al Peterson "Rolling Valley Radio" (Part 15 AM) ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
Hi All Just tested exporting WAV files using Rdcatch in ver 2.15.1 and I can only open them using Audacity and mp2 exports will not work. Centos 6 appliance Thanks Stan On 20 August 2016 10:05:59 PM AWST, Brett Patram wrote: >Thank you it does. Did your instance start having the issue after doing >the software update or did it exist prior? > >Brett Patram, CE >On Aug 20, 2016 8:51 AM, Al Peterson >wrote: >Brett, > >Here in Northern Virginia, I'm experiencing similar behavior: An >exported WAV file opens as a flat line in both Cool Edit Pro and Adobe >Audition, but opens properly in Audacity. I tried unchecking the >"export metadata" box, but got the same results. > >I don't know if this report is helpful, but I'm seeing it too. > >Al Peterson >"Rolling Valley Radio" (Part 15 AM) > > > > > >___ >Rivendell-dev mailing list >Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:05, Brett Patram wrote: > Here in Northern Virginia, I'm experiencing similar behavior: An exported > WAV file opens as a flat line in both Cool Edit Pro and Adobe Audition, but > opens properly in Audacity. I tried unchecking the "export metadata" box, > but got the same results. We have a known issue in v2.15.1 with WAV exports containing metadata opening as a ‘flat line' in Cool Edit Pro (fixed in git ‘stable’). However, in all of my testing, turning off ‘export metadata’ clears the problem. I suspect that we can treat Adobe Audition as being essentially the same product in this context as it is a lineal descendant of CEP code-wise. Cheers! |--| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |--| | A room without books is like a body without a soul. | | -- Cicero| |--|___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:49:44 -0400 Fred Gleason wrote: > opening as a ‘flat line' in Cool Edit Pro Hasn't CEP been obsolete and out of support for more than a decade ? That's like, pre-Jurassic in computer years. -- Cowboy ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
Yup, CoolEdit Pro has been out out of distribution for a long time. However there are still quite a few stations using it for a few reasons. -It still works (at least on the 32 bit version of Windows 7 it works, there are a few issues with running it on 64 bit Win7. Never tried it on 8 or 10), the license does not expire -People know it -It does most (if not all) of what many stations need for production use -In many ways it is simpler to use then the latest version of Adobe Audition (and since presumably the license would have been paid for years ago, and Adobe has migrated to a monthly / annual license fee, its cheaper then the latest Adobe product) The above are why a lot of people are still running Adobe Audition version 3.01 too. Lorne Tyndale > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:49:44 -0400 > Fred Gleason wrote: > > > opening as a ‘flat line' in Cool Edit Pro > > Hasn't CEP been obsolete and out of support for more than a decade ? > > That's like, pre-Jurassic in computer years. > > -- > Cowboy > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
We just upgraded this weekend to Riv 2.15.1 on Centos 6.8. thinking the export bug was fixed in the automatic updates. Now we have corrupted files on export that will not burn to a CD for listener requests without first running them through Audacity. It seems like files under 250 MB work fine and over that become corrupted. I tested exporting without metadata and it did not change the problem. I see that this was fixed in github but that is new to me. How do I find what I am looking for and how do I use it? It looks like I would need to compile Riv from source code by components, true? Sorry for the dumb questions. Thanks, Tom Van Gorkom Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM Office: 956-380-8150 Cell: 865-803-7427 Rio Grande Bible Institute 4300 S US Hwy 281 Edinburg, TX 78539 On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Lorne Tyndale wrote: > > Yup, CoolEdit Pro has been out out of distribution for a long time. > However there are still quite a few stations using it for a few reasons. > > -It still works (at least on the 32 bit version of Windows 7 it works, > there are a few issues with running it on 64 bit Win7. Never tried it > on 8 or 10), the license does not expire > -People know it > -It does most (if not all) of what many stations need for production use > -In many ways it is simpler to use then the latest version of Adobe > Audition (and since presumably the license would have been paid for > years ago, and Adobe has migrated to a monthly / annual license fee, its > cheaper then the latest Adobe product) > > The above are why a lot of people are still running Adobe Audition > version 3.01 too. > > Lorne Tyndale > > > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:49:44 -0400 > > Fred Gleason wrote: > > > > > opening as a ‘flat line' in Cool Edit Pro > > > > Hasn't CEP been obsolete and out of support for more than a decade ? > > > > That's like, pre-Jurassic in computer years. > > > > -- > > Cowboy > > ___ > > Rivendell-dev mailing list > > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
On Sep 21, 2016, at 15:26, Tom Van Gorkom wrote: > We just upgraded this weekend to Riv 2.15.1 on Centos 6.8. thinking the > export bug was fixed in the automatic updates. Now we have corrupted files on > export that will not burn to a CD for listener requests without first running > them through Audacity. It seems like files under 250 MB work fine and over > that become corrupted. I tested exporting without metadata and it did not > change the problem. Hmm. The 250 MB size limit is new. We had a known issue with metadata affecting certain versions of CoolEdit Pro and its descendants (which is the fix that is notated in GitHub), but this sounds like something different. Off to do some tests… Cheers! |--| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |--| | A room without books is like a body without a soul. | | -- Cicero| |--|___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
As a test I used VLC, itunes and windows media player to play wav files exported none of them worked. I didn't check the file size... Thanks Stan On 23 September 2016 12:37:09 AM AWST, Fred Gleason wrote: >On Sep 21, 2016, at 15:26, Tom Van Gorkom >wrote: > >> We just upgraded this weekend to Riv 2.15.1 on Centos 6.8. thinking >the export bug was fixed in the automatic updates. Now we have >corrupted files on export that will not burn to a CD for listener >requests without first running them through Audacity. It seems like >files under 250 MB work fine and over that become corrupted. I tested >exporting without metadata and it did not change the problem. > >Hmm. The 250 MB size limit is new. We had a known issue with metadata >affecting certain versions of CoolEdit Pro and its descendants (which >is the fix that is notated in GitHub), but this sounds like something >different. > >Off to do some tests… > >Cheers! > > >|--| >| Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer >| >| | Paravel Systems >| >|--| >| A room without books is like a body without a soul. >| >| -- Cicero >| >|--| > > > >___ >Rivendell-dev mailing list >Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:56, Stan Fotinos wrote: > As a test I used VLC, itunes and windows media player to play wav files > exported none of them worked. I didn't check the file size... I’ve got a test file (much smaller than 250 MB) up at: http://static.paravelsystems.com/tests/rdcatch-test.wav How does this play? Cheers! |--| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |--| | A room without books is like a body without a soul. | | -- Cicero| |--|___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:56, Stan Fotinos wrote: > As a test I used VLC, itunes and windows media player to play wav files > exported none of them worked. I didn't check the file size... Just put up a long one (342 MB) as well: http://static.paravelsystems.com/tests/rdcatchlong-test.wav These were all generated using the current code from GitHub. Please test. Cheers! |--| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |--| | A room without books is like a body without a soul. | | -- Cicero| |--|___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
On Sep 22, 2016, at 14:37, Al Peterson wrote: > Fred, I have it happening here on a very small 541 kB music file. This was a > file I imported into a cart and then turned around and exported. Until now, I > thought it was only happening to files recorded within RDLibrary. Not sure > if that's important or useful, but I wanted you to know anyway. > > Both of your downloadable test waves opened fine here in Cool Edit 2.1, Win7. Thanks. Exactly what I expected, as you guys still have a "pre-fixed" version. Cheers! |--| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |--| | A room without books is like a body without a soul. | | -- Cicero| |--| ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDCATCH 2.15.1 Export problem
On 23/09/16 05:15, Fred Gleason wrote: I’ve got a test file (much smaller than 250 MB) up at: http://static.paravelsystems.com/tests/rdcatch-test.wav How does this play? Cheers! Opens fine here in Audacity: Reported as 48000. Sounds OK regards Robert -- *Communication Consultants* 64 Warner Park Avenue Laingholm Auckland 0604 09 8176358 0221693124 06 650 6087 ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
