Re: lack of responsiveness

2007-08-15 Thread Paul Louden

> Why not buffer some (as in enough (tm)) seconds of the next song on the 
> playlist?
We do, in fact we often buffer several whole songs ahead, but as you
near the end of the buffer, before rebuffering has happened (to save
battery it's not constantly filled but empties and refills), or if you
have large FLAC files, or if a user skips often, then you can still
experience a delay.



Re: lack of responsiveness

2007-08-15 Thread Simon Rutishauser
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:37:44AM +0200, Linus Nielsen Feltzing wrote:
> >There is a lack of responsiveness when skipping songs. I'm listening
> >music, press next key and the hdd have to start up. The old songs is
> >still playing. I've no info what happens, so I press next button again. I
> >think this is quite confusing.
> 
> I agree completely. The music should stop immediately to provide feedback.

Why not buffer some (as in enough (tm)) seconds of the next song on the 
playlist?

Just a suggestion along the way, I am not currently using a hd player 
but I think the Rio Karma I owned a while ago was very responsive when 
switching songs (the HD only powering up afterwards).

Simon


Re: lack of responsiveness

2007-08-15 Thread pondlife
This is exactly the reason I'd like to see the "beep" replaced by a generic
keyclick.  The point is to indicate to the user that their keypress has been
recognised.

I put a patch up at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7307, but it needs
resyncing.

There didn't seem to be much interest it the idea at the time (i.e. it's
felt worth committing), but I'll revisit if others think it's useful.  I
certainly do!

I suspect that stopping playback to improve perceived responsiveness
probably wouldn't respond as quickly as you'd like anyway.

-- 
pondlife





Re: lack of responsiveness

2007-08-15 Thread Tapio Kelloniemi
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:37:44AM +0200, Linus Nielsen Feltzing wrote:
 > David wrote:
 > >There is a lack of responsiveness when skipping songs. I'm listening
 > >music, press next key and the hdd have to start up. The old songs is
 > >still playing. I've no info what happens, so I press next button again. I
 > >think this is quite confusing.
 > 
 > I agree completely. The music should stop immediately to provide feedback.

Well, there is the beep option which one can turn on, if feedback is
desired. Stopping playback would just introduce few seconds of unnecessary
silence. Then skipping multiple tracks would not sound very comfortable.

Perhaps the beep should be relative to current volume (if it already isn't).
So beep_volume would be beep_volume_factor * current_volume_factor. Perhaps a
new option (quiet) could be added to the beep volume setting; IMHO strong is
already strong enough for everybody.

-- 
Tapio


Re: lack of responsiveness

2007-08-15 Thread Linus Nielsen Feltzing

David wrote:

There is a lack of responsiveness when skipping songs. I'm listening
music, press next key and the hdd have to start up. The old songs is
still playing. I've no info what happens, so I press next button again. I
think this is quite confusing.


I agree completely. The music should stop immediately to provide feedback.

Linus