Re: [ros-dev] NTFS in ReactOS: heise online article

2014-11-08 Thread Pierre Schweitzer
On 08/11/2014 07:14, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>> Dear Thomas,
> 
>>> I really would like something readable and writable, like USB stick, as 
>>> opposed to live CD.
> 
>> There's no easy way to do so.
>> Even if you'd copy contents of the LiveCD to an USB drive, it wouldn't
>> be writable, the CDFS driver we use is also read-only.
> 
> 
>> Pierre Schweitzer 
> 
> My idea was to build and use the ROSBE on FreeBSD, NetBSD or Linux to build 
> the trunk, then install to a USB stick formatted FAT32.
> 
> Question is whether that could boot.

In theory, it could. In practice, I'm not that sure, you're really
dependent on USB. And I'm not sure it's in a that good shape,
unfortunately...

> 
> Linux, the BSDs and Haiku can be installed on a USB stick, but I believe 
> MS-Windows can't.
> 
> I thought of buying a cheap refurbished SATA hard disk, maybe 80 or 160 GB, 
> and using that to install ReactOS, FreeDOS and possibly something else 
> (OpenBSD?), but ReactOS and FreeDOS have the limitation of having to be the 
> first FAT16 or FAT32 partition on the disk, has to be drive C:
> 
> I might set up to boot with Syslinux.
> 
> Tom
> 
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Re: [ros-dev] NTFS in ReactOS: heise online article

2014-11-08 Thread Pierre Schweitzer
On 07/11/2014 19:52, Sven Barth wrote:
> On 07.11.2014 13:19, Pierre Schweitzer wrote:
>> On 07/11/2014 12:05, Thomas Mueller wrote:
 Dear Thomas,
>>>
 This source of such article is a post from reboot.pro
 (http://reboot.pro/topic/20149-ntfs-now-supported-in-reactos-livecd/)
 where I report this progress and ask for help.
>>>
 On ReactOS website, you don't have such strong report, but the piece of
 information exists, spread in various places. People started talking
 about it on boards a few days ago. You have a short report about it in
 the latest ReactOS developer meeting minutes
 (https://www.reactos.org/node/909). And finally, the commits made on
 NTFS where kind of explicit about the progresses (coming along with
 pictures:
 https://git.reactos.org/?p=reactos.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=[NTFS]).

>>>
 Note that the 0.3.17 release has initial, but not full (release process
 was started before everything could be developed) NTFS support. Testing
 from trunk is then the preferred method.
>>>
 Cheers,
>>>
 Pierre Schweitzer 
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link!
>>>
>>> I can see why, in a developing OS or application, following trunk
>>> would be the indicated method.
>>>
>>> Problem is I have no hard-drive space (actually I do, but it's
>>> GPT-partitioned).
>>
>> We indeed so far don't support GPT disks. It would require some changes
>> to be done in our storage stack.
>> This is somehow on my todo list, but it's kind of huge ;-).
> 
> Out of curiosity: why is it so extensive to implement? From my
> understanding (I'm currently working with partition tables at work) GPT
> should be simpler to handle than MBR. Or is this because it needs to be
> implemented in a Windows compatible way? If so what did they change
> there to make implementing GPT such a "problem"?

Actually, you've to make all the storage stack GPT aware. Which is
doable ofc, but not immediate.

Kernel though, is already GPT aware.

> 
> Regards,
> Sven
> 
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