Re: [Rosegarden-user] Get sound working with Realtek sound card
I would like to thank all you respondents who tried to help me..I have Jack, Qsynth, Timidity installed. But I am at a loss how I can tie all these pieces together to produce any sound. How to "plug in" any of these pieces? The info message box in rosegarden says "visit Edit->Preferences->Behaviour->Graphics performance". There is no obvious way to do this ! The Union interface of Ubuntu 12.04 does not lend itself to do things as one would do in a KDE environment. I wonder if linux is getting so smart, that it tends to outsmart itself with the increased complexity. Michael McIntyre Tutorial is a great write up, but is not geared to modern hardware. It is based on KDE and I am lost how to apply it to my Union interface. John On 2012-08-20, at 4:52 PM, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, Abrolag wrote: > >> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:44:02 +0200 (CEST) >> Martin Tarenskeen wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, jott27 wrote: >>> Rosegarden on Ubuntu 12.04 My Realtek sound card on HP-Pavilion-dv9500-Notebook does not support soundfonts. What can I use to get sound working? >>> >>> fluidsynth >>> qsynth (=fluidsynth with a GUI) >>> >>> timidity >> >> Or you could try a really nice softsynth like Yoshimi :) > > Not really. Yoshimi does not support soundfonts, which is what the > original question was about. > > Personally I am not a great fan of Yoshimi/ZynAddSubFX. Yes, it can > produce some very good sounds. But I think it has one of the ugliest user > interfaces I know, making it very difficult to get a good grip and > understanding of the huge number of possibilities this softsynth, I must > admit, does have. > > But now you will say: start trying the preset libraries. I have, and > almost every preset has much too much reverb. Not my piece of cake. > > On the other side, there are not that many (native) softsynths for Linux, > so everything is welcome: Yoshimi/ZynAddSubFx, hexter, whysynth, amsynth, > phasex ... > > And someone also compiled native Linux versions of some great stuff > from Togu Audio Line (TAL). Take a look here: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/distrho/files/Ports/TAL-Plugins/ > > > -- > > MT > > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Jack error message
When starting Jack an error message is shown: "Cannot lock down 82241434 byte memory area (Cannot allocate memory" What does this mean and what can I do to correct this? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Jack-error-message-tp34330734p34330734.html Sent from the Rosegarden - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Get sound working with Realtek sound card
On Tuesday, August 21, 2012, John wrote: > I would like to thank all you respondents who tried to help me..I have > Jack, Qsynth, Timidity installed. But I am at a loss how I can tie all > these pieces together to produce any sound. How to "plug in" any of these > pieces? I'm going to defer these basic, common questions to the rest of the community. > The info message box in rosegarden says "visit Edit->Preferences->Behaviour- > Graphics performance". There is no obvious way to do this! There certainly should be. I started Rosegarden, went to the Edit menu, found Preferences down at the bottom, and the Behavior tab was the first thing up, with the Graphics Performance option the very first choice available. Rosegarden no longer uses KDE, and it looks the same everywhere. If that option really isn't obvious to you, then somebody could have customized your particular build of Rosegarden in some weird way. Distros do that kind of thing. It's annoying. Anyway, the graphics performance thing is a very minor consideration in the scheme of things. > Michael McIntyre Tutorial is a great write up, but is not geared to modern > hardware. Actually, the hardware has changed very little since those days. If anything, the spectrum of hardware out there in the world is less complicated now, because all the really good stuff has been discontinued, and everybody is dealing with the worst case scenario now. Rosegarden, however, has changed considerably since those days. I never went back through that old tutorial to bring everything up to date. I'm afraid there's just nothing in it for me, and it would be an enormous amount of work. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Get sound working with Realtek sound card
Linux isn't the problem: the problem is Unity's misguided attempt to force apps to share a single menu instead of giving each its own menu in its own window (the way every other desktop UI on Linux does). Replace the worthless Unity interface with XFCE. We had to do that on my wife's netbook so she could use single-window programs that were a lot less complex than Rosegarden! On 08/21/2012 02:15 AM, John wrote: > I would like to thank all you respondents who tried to help me..I have Jack, > Qsynth, Timidity installed. But I am at a loss how I can tie all these > pieces together to produce any sound. > How to "plug in" any of these pieces? > The info message box in rosegarden says "visit > Edit->Preferences->Behaviour->Graphics performance". There is no obvious way > to do this ! > The Union interface of Ubuntu 12.04 does not lend itself to do things as one > would do in a KDE environment. > I wonder if linux is getting so smart, that it tends to outsmart itself with > the increased complexity. Michael McIntyre Tutorial is a great write up, but > is not geared to modern hardware. It is based on KDE > and I am lost how to apply it to my Union interface. > > John On 2012-08-20, at 4:52 PM, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > >> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, Abrolag wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:44:02 +0200 (CEST) >>> Martin Tarenskeen wrote: >>> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, jott27 wrote: > Rosegarden on Ubuntu 12.04 > My Realtek sound card on HP-Pavilion-dv9500-Notebook does not support > soundfonts. > What can I use to get sound working? fluidsynth qsynth (=fluidsynth with a GUI) timidity >>> >>> Or you could try a really nice softsynth like Yoshimi :) >> >> Not really. Yoshimi does not support soundfonts, which is what the >> original question was about. >> >> Personally I am not a great fan of Yoshimi/ZynAddSubFX. Yes, it can >> produce some very good sounds. But I think it has one of the ugliest user >> interfaces I know, making it very difficult to get a good grip and >> understanding of the huge number of possibilities this softsynth, I must >> admit, does have. >> >> But now you will say: start trying the preset libraries. I have, and >> almost every preset has much too much reverb. Not my piece of cake. >> >> On the other side, there are not that many (native) softsynths for Linux, >> so everything is welcome: Yoshimi/ZynAddSubFx, hexter, whysynth, amsynth, >> phasex ... >> >> And someone also compiled native Linux versions of some great stuff >> from Togu Audio Line (TAL). Take a look here: >> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/distrho/files/Ports/TAL-Plugins/ -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Get sound working with Realtek sound card
On 08/21/2012 09:16 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Tuesday, August 21, 2012, John wrote: > >> I would like to thank all you respondents who tried to help me..I have >> Jack, Qsynth, Timidity installed. But I am at a loss how I can tie all >> these pieces together to produce any sound. How to "plug in" any of these >> pieces? > > I'm going to defer these basic, common questions to the rest of the community. > >> The info message box in rosegarden says "visit Edit->Preferences->Behaviour- >> Graphics performance". There is no obvious way to do this! > > There certainly should be. I started Rosegarden, went to the Edit menu, found > Preferences down at the bottom, and the Behavior tab was the first thing up, > with the Graphics Performance option the very first choice available. > > Rosegarden no longer uses KDE, and it looks the same everywhere. If that > option really isn't obvious to you, then somebody could have customized your > particular build of Rosegarden in some weird way. Distros do that kind of > thing. It's annoying. I think it's something the Unity UI is doing. It does the same thing to EVERY GUI app. The Unity UI demands that all GUI apps use a single menu at the top of the screen (by default). Whichever window is active has its menus there. But by default, the menus aren't shown until you mouse up to that part of the screen. That could be why the original poster isn't seeing the Rosegarden menus ... The Unity UI has problems when apps use more than one window. It even has problems with some apps that use only ONE window. The real fix is to replace Unity UI with XFCE! -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Get sound working with Realtek sound card
Thanks Mr.McIntyre for your response. In a separate e-mail I will send you some screenshots of how my "Rosegarden App" looks like. Unfortunately the forum does not lend itself to send screenshots. The limitation is 40k. I tried every icon on the two top rows of the display in search of what you describe as the Edit menu without any success. I apologize for my statement that your Tutorial is not geared to modern hardware. I was guided by the observation that modern computers have mostly integrated sound cards and hardly ever anymore the good old sound blaster. The OS software also has evolved, and so has Rosegarden. Regards, John On 2012-08-21, at 3:16 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Tuesday, August 21, 2012, John wrote: > >> I would like to thank all you respondents who tried to help me..I have >> Jack, Qsynth, Timidity installed. But I am at a loss how I can tie all >> these pieces together to produce any sound. How to "plug in" any of these >> pieces? > > I'm going to defer these basic, common questions to the rest of the community. > >> The info message box in rosegarden says "visit Edit->Preferences->Behaviour- >> Graphics performance". There is no obvious way to do this! > > There certainly should be. I started Rosegarden, went to the Edit menu, > found > Preferences down at the bottom, and the Behavior tab was the first thing up, > with the Graphics Performance option the very first choice available. > > Rosegarden no longer uses KDE, and it looks the same everywhere. If that > option really isn't obvious to you, then somebody could have customized your > particular build of Rosegarden in some weird way. Distros do that kind of > thing. It's annoying. > > Anyway, the graphics performance thing is a very minor consideration in the > scheme of things. > >> Michael McIntyre Tutorial is a great write up, but is not geared to modern >> hardware. > > Actually, the hardware has changed very little since those days. If > anything, > the spectrum of hardware out there in the world is less complicated now, > because all the really good stuff has been discontinued, and everybody is > dealing with the worst case scenario now. > > Rosegarden, however, has changed considerably since those days. I never went > back through that old tutorial to bring everything up to date. I'm afraid > there's just nothing in it for me, and it would be an enormous amount of work. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Get sound working with Realtek sound
--- On Tue, 8/21/12, John wrote: > I would like to thank all you respondents who tried to help > me..I have Jack, Qsynth, Timidity installed. But > I am at a loss how I can tie all these pieces together to > produce any sound. > How to "plug in" any of these pieces? There are many Linux Distributions (a.k.a Distros) out there, a very few distros are customized for MIDI related music: Musix, Studio64, Ubuntu Studio... Those distributions should have all the apps above and should also have Rosegarden setup to run from the desktop menu. If you try most other Linux distros, chances are they are missing lots of "setup" applications and configurations. Lots and lots of info, too much to share in a couple of email messages. Chances are one would be wasting lots of time trying to figure things out without some "working" examples. Your best bet would be to try one of the above mentioned distributions, at least their LiveCD. Booting up from the LiveCD, and run the apps, then inspect the settings for each of those apps and how they are tied together. Those LiveCD should be the best way for self learning if one spend the time to look around. These are excellent working examples to learn from. > The Union interface of Ubuntu 12.04 does not lend itself to > do things as one would do in a KDE environment. > I wonder if linux is getting so smart, that it tends to > outsmart itself with the increased complexity. Michael > McIntyre Tutorial is a great write up, but is not geared to > modern hardware. It is based on KDE > and I am lost how to apply it to my Union interface. I think you mean Unison, not Union? Or, perhaps I could be wrong, because I don't even touch *buntu stuff. With most major Linux distros, you can run KDE, GNOME, Unity, LXDE, Fluxbox, or any desktop environment. Just happens that the "default" desktop is chosen as "one" way to use Linux. There is no restriction if you want to use other desktop environment. So if one doesn't like Unity, install and run with a different desktop environment. Most people are just so afraid of trying other options, or choices, or afraid they may "break" the computer. Or they were "conditioned" by Apple, or Microsoft, or their cell phone and PDA that they don't dare to try anything else. Every application has its own interface defined by their developers. They will decide what they want to do. The desktop environments is just another application. So one should learn how to use each application and don't pretend all the apps are one and the same thing. If you think in Windows everything look the same, perhaps you should look at the different versions of Windows, every new version of recent releases, people have to learn a whole new way of doing thing, especially with the countless system settings. Such a waste of time. Stick with one way of doing thing and be productive instead of wasting lots of time tweaking with how things look every few months because things look "old". Jimmy -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
